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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 15, 2022, 11:21:26 AM

I believe that Man's departure only exposed Liverpool's problem. The root of Liverpool's problem is their unbalanced midfield. They need a capable right-sided midfielder. Harvey Elliot makes that midfield lightweight because he's just not good at covering Trent. With Elliot in the midfield Liverpool will always be outrun and will make the defense look shambolic. We would have noticed it during the poor coverage with the goal. On the right side, they require a person similar to Thiago. Hopefully, Klopp will take this into account when they play next.

I believe you are referring to Sadio Mane's departure. Yes, Liverpool made a big mistake in letting Mane leave the team because since his departure to Bayern Munich the Liverpool team has not been in a balanced shape again.Not just the midfield alone because Elliott has been doing very well but Liverpool's defense has been porous because the rate at which they concede goals makes me wonder if Van Dijk is still the same defender we saw two seasons ago. Elliot should not be blame because most times Trent makes a lot of runs but fails to fall back when the ball is out of his control.

I totally agree with you. Liverpool management's biggest mistake was releasing Sadio Mane. Sadio Mane probably didn't score too many goals or assists. But Sadio Mane had a big contribution to every victory of Liverpool. Liverpool did not value their legend properly. And Liverpool is now enjoying the results quite well. Even though 6 weeks of Premier League have ended, Liverpool has not been stable yet.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 15, 2022, 10:39:04 AM

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season.

even last season liverpool already showed a drop in performance in the last premier league games, they don't have a team that stays with its 11 players on the field and wins every year or has the same performance every year, it is necessary to sell some players and bring other better players, unfortunately liverpool is failing in this part. diogo jota, luiz diaz and salah are still a good option, but they need to have a player like haaland or benzema, and that's what's missing in the liverpool attack, this nunez they brought was not a good deal in my opinion. another thing that needs to be better is in midfield and in defense, I also think they need to refresh in this area with the entry of new players. while liverpool doesn't make deep changes then this season we will see many inconsistencies, it will be constant games of draws and defeats. let's look at the city, they always manage to bring excellent players in attack and in other areas, they don't stay still and with the same players for many seasons, pep renews the team, of course there are players he keeps for several seasons

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 15, 2022, 11:21:26 AM

I believe that Man's departure only exposed Liverpool's problem. The root of Liverpool's problem is their unbalanced midfield. They need a capable right-sided midfielder. Harvey Elliot makes that midfield lightweight because he's just not good at covering Trent. With Elliot in the midfield Liverpool will always be outrun and will make the defense look shambolic. We would have noticed it during the poor coverage with the goal. On the right side, they require a person similar to Thiago. Hopefully, Klopp will take this into account when they play next.

I believe you are referring to Sadio Mane's departure. Yes, Liverpool made a big mistake in letting Mane leave the team because since his departure to Bayern Munich the Liverpool team has not been in a balanced shape again.Not just the midfield alone because Elliott has been doing very well but Liverpool's defense has been porous because the rate at which they concede goals makes me wonder if Van Dijk is still the same defender we saw two seasons ago. Elliot should not be blame because most times Trent makes a lot of runs but fails to fall back when the ball is out of his control.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 15, 2022, 10:39:04 AM

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season. The loss of Mane in the Liverpool squad is very visible, the combination of Mane and Salah has produced many goals for Liverpool. Nunez, who was brought in as a substitute for Mane, has not been able to connect with Salah, thus making Liverpool goal productivity decline this season. Klopp as Liverpool coach must improve the team's mentality to show the best performance, if Liverpool are not consistent in every game, Liverpool will find it difficult to get a trophy this season.

I think Liverpool's current form is understandable because to be honest they've lost some important players since the start of the season. Liverpool is a team that has a chance to do better than other teams like Brighton or Tottenham, but they should definitely try to do it from now on.

The loss of Mane who was sold to Bayern Munich this season in my opinion is not the reason why Liverpool's performance is inconsistent. You have to know that some of their important players are injured while the substitutes are not quite able to do their job well. But I believe when this player comes back Liverpool's form can improve as usual. They are not a weak team to beat, but surely some quality new players will be able to do that.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 15, 2022, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: arimamib on September 15, 2022, 10:39:04 AM

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season. The loss of Mane in the Liverpool squad is very visible, the combination of Mane and Salah has produced many goals for Liverpool.

I believe that Man's departure only exposed Liverpool's problem. The root of Liverpool's problem is their unbalanced midfield. They need a capable right-sided midfielder. Harvey Elliot makes that midfield lightweight because he's just not good at covering Trent. With Elliot in the midfield Liverpool will always be outrun and will make the defense look shambolic. We would have noticed it during the poor coverage with the goal. On the right side, they require a person similar to Thiago. Hopefully, Klopp will take this into account when they play next.

I also agree that Harvey Elliott isn't good enough for the starting eleven yet. Liverpool had money to buy a solid midfielder in his place but they didn't want to make such move. Maybe we would see a move in January who knows. On the other hand, the team didn't have a solid performance as a whole for a long time. The Ajax game seemed like a hope as their performance was really satisfying. We need to see this Liverpool dominance from now on. Salah also scored which would increase his self-confidence again to start making a big contribution to the team. They have a long break ahead of them to focus on getting much better.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 15, 2022, 10:39:04 AM

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season. The loss of Mane in the Liverpool squad is very visible, the combination of Mane and Salah has produced many goals for Liverpool.

I believe that Man's departure only exposed Liverpool's problem. The root of Liverpool's problem can be found in their midfield. They need a capable right-sided midfielder. Harvey Elliot makes that midfield terrible because he's just not good at covering Trent. With Elliot in the midfield Liverpool will always be outrun and will make the defense look weak. We would have noticed it during the poor coverage with the goal. On the right side, they require a person similar to Thiago. Hopefully, Klopp will take this into account when they play next.

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Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.

Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season. The loss of Mane in the Liverpool squad is very visible, the combination of Mane and Salah has produced many goals for Liverpool. Nunez, who was brought in as a substitute for Mane, has not been able to connect with Salah, thus making Liverpool goal productivity decline this season. Klopp as Liverpool coach must improve the team's mentality to show the best performance, if Liverpool are not consistent in every game, Liverpool will find it difficult to get a trophy this season.

Last season Liverpool was impressive in the Premier League and Champions League. I can't believe their start to the season has made such a big difference with Mane's departure. I hope a lot for Nunez to be able to collaborate with Salah in scoring goals. but they don't seem to be on the same frequency yet. seen in the match against Ajax. Nunez failed to convert Salah's mature pass into a goal.
this could be bad for Nunez, as Klopp might also prefer the performance of the trio (Salah, Jota, and Diaz) up front for Liverpool.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 15, 2022, 03:42:09 AM

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Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.

Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

Liverpool performance this season is not like last season, this time Liverpool are not consistent in every game, they are still difficult to find their best form this season. The loss of Mane in the Liverpool squad is very visible, the combination of Mane and Salah has produced many goals for Liverpool. Nunez, who was brought in as a substitute for Mane, has not been able to connect with Salah, thus making Liverpool goal productivity decline this season. Klopp as Liverpool coach must improve the team's mentality to show the best performance, if Liverpool are not consistent in every game, Liverpool will find it difficult to get a trophy this season.

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Quote from: maju69 on September 15, 2022, 05:47:44 AM

Leicester is not the Leicester I have seen performances in the last few seasons. Yes, their decline is very clear after being without a win in the Premier League until week 6. Their achievement was only able to play a draw and the rest ended in defeat, which caused them to occupy the bottom of the standings. Not only that, they are one of the two teams that have conceded the most goals.

Leicester's performance is the worst for now. If leicester will be peforming like this and this club may be degrade from EPL. So far only 1 point that can be achieved by leicester. It seems like this club will be degrading from EPL. Im sure about this.
Since leicaster can't perform so well in last match. I think that we have known what would be the result for leicester. This club will become a club that will be farmed by another team.
A club that will always produce free point to the another team in EPL

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 14, 2022, 06:44:56 AM

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I don't think that Arsenal will be able to hold on to their performance until the end of the season because they don't have that much squad depth. Manchester City really lacked a lethal striker for the last few seasons after Sergio Aguero left. But now as they have bought Erling Haaland, they will really try to push for the Champions League title which they have been wanting to win for the first seasons but were unable to do so.
So far Haaland has shown what he is capable of as he scored 10 goals in only 6 matches. So far Chelsea and Liverpool have been playing their game this season so Manchester City might have a really good opportunity to grab this and be the best team in England and possibly Europe.

You’ve said it all. That’s the problem with Arsenal poor squad depth. I have been emphasizing on this same thing for quite a long time now. And this is not the first time they have missed out on the top 4 and the EPL title because of no quality player on the bench when their first team players get injured or suspended. Manchester city lost some of their center backs to injury and fortunately the transfer window was still open, Guardiola had to bring in Akanji to balance up because they have many games ahead. Arsenal lost two of their defensive midfielders to injury, I was hoping they’ll reinforce before the deadline day. They refused to do so. Now it has cost them some points against Manchester United, they’ll have to face Brentford this weekend and it will still affect their performance because they don’t have someone quality enough to handle that position in the team.

As far as I am concerned, Arsenal have been emphasizing the buying of younger players too much,
which has resulted in them losing the depth of their squad.

As a matter of fact, they even sold their captain and star player Aubameyang to Barcelona a few years ago,
and right now they do not have a true Lethal Striker on their team.

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Inconsistent performance have been usually faced by Arsenal not in this season but also almost every season Arsenal can't hold the best performance until the end of this season. But have advantage with Arsenal start on Primer League because last six games have 5 won and 1 loss, settle first standing position is great achievement by Arsenal in this season.
Manchester City have found and settle best striker in this season after Erling Haaland make Pep Guardiola sastified with his performance and success lead top scorer standing position awhile with 10 goals contribution in last six games. Not only success lead goals in domestic league but also Erling Haaland keep consistent scoring last two goals on UEFA Champion League against with Sevilla on first match.

I agree with you that they have been fairly consistent so far this season,
but I think that they won't be able to hold on to that,
You know, squad depth matters a lot in the Premier League,
because it is a very physical league, as opposed to other leagues, and injuries happen to all teams on a regular basis.

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If I look at the schedule it looks like there are only three matches that will be postponed, they are Brighton v Crystal Palace, Manchester United v Leeds and Chelsea v Liverpool. I personally don't really follow developments with the national mourning there but if it is, it becomes a national mourning then I think why there are only a few matches that have been postponed unlike before, delaying all matches seems better. Just curious about the reason they only postponed a few matches, because if I look at the date they can play on the 17th and 18th or their location is not possible to continue the match.

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Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

I don't see the name Sadio Mane as a goalscorer against Inter. Goal scorer in that match was L.sane and an own goal from D'Ambrosio. So back on topic, Mohamed Salah has proven his best quality for Liverpool in the match against Ajax. Salah was able to contribute 1 goal and he also recorded several chances but unfortunately managed to get blocked. I think Mohamed Salah has lacked productivity in scoring goals this season because Salah hasn't found a match up front since Sadio Mane left. the victory over ajax made kloop smile again after the previous match had been humiliated by Napoli.

Sadio Mane can very well score in the match against inter. He’s undeniably a goal scorer and he can score a goal against inter as well. Do not underestimate his performance as a player.
Salah tried his possible best against the match with Ajax and got a win. It may as well made Klopp wile as losing his last champions league match. Salah has indeed lost productivity in scoring goals this season since the departure of Mane. With him around, the forward were in sync and played well. They’ve let a good player go and they know it.

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From yesterday’s game, Yesterday I was able to pick up some sights of improvements on their style of play. The midfield looked set even though it wasn’t well organized when defending. At least Raheem Sterling and Reece James were able to run at defenders and were also having good linkup. I think going forward they looked better. People shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions after 1 game with the new manager in charge when he's had so little time to effect things.

Their new manager of course takes time to adjust to the players. and make the best strategy and squad choice for him.
Seeing some of the movement and possession of the ball by Chelsea is quite good. but we have to see it against a stronger team. then we will see the success of Chelsea with their new coach.
There's no need to rush, fans and club management should give the coach more opportunities.

There is no reason to think that Chelsea will start playing well with a new coach very soon. The new coach needs time. A coach needs time to adjust to the players in the team and to understand the mindset of the players. Also the new coach has to find out the internal problems of the team. And it is definitely time consuming. And so I would say Chelsea needs a lot more time to stabilize the squad. And so may they will not fight for Champions League or Premier League title this season. They are already far behind.

I agreed that Graham Potter Chelsea new manager needed more time to reposition the club before we can begin to see any meaningful impact on the team, however I had expected an outright win in yesterday match against the lowly rated RB Salzburg despite playing in Stamford Bridge, though the home team dominated the match unfortunately their dominance couldn't result to scoring goals it was rather wasteful efforts on goals, Potter would have to put in more efforts on his strikers finishing touches, it's better to play two shots on goals and score two goals than playing many shots on goals without recording a single goal.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 15, 2022, 03:42:09 AM

Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

I don't see the name Sadio Mane as a goalscorer against Inter. Goal scorer in that match was L.sane and an own goal from D'Ambrosio. So back on topic, Mohamed Salah has proven his best quality for Liverpool in the match against Ajax. Salah was able to contribute 1 goal and he also recorded several chances but unfortunately managed to get blocked. I think Mohamed Salah has lacked productivity in scoring goals this season because Salah hasn't found a match up front since Sadio Mane left. the victory over ajax made kloop smile again after the previous match had been humiliated by Napoli.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 15, 2022, 07:31:15 AM

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Their new manager of course takes time to adjust to the players. and make the best strategy and squad choice for him.
Seeing some of the movement and possession of the ball by Chelsea is quite good. but we have to see it against a stronger team. then we will see the success of Chelsea with their new coach.
There's no need to rush, fans and club management should give the coach more opportunities.

There is no reason to think that Chelsea will start playing well with a new coach very soon. The new coach needs time. A coach needs time to adjust to the players in the team and to understand the mindset of the players. Also the new coach has to find out the internal problems of the team. And it is definitely time consuming. And so I would say Chelsea needs a lot more time to stabilize the squad. And so may they will not fight for Champions League or Premier League title this season. They are already far behind.

I agree, the possibility that Chelsea will play better in the near future is still there, but I would say it is unlikely. I don't see the chemistry built by their new coach, and I haven't seen the direction of their game until now. I would say that in the near future Chelsea's game will improve if now I see the development of what is shown. But so far I haven't found that.

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From yesterday’s game, Yesterday I was able to pick up some sights of improvements on their style of play. The midfield looked set even though it wasn’t well organized when defending. At least Raheem Sterling and Reece James were able to run at defenders and were also having good linkup. I think going forward they looked better. People shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions after 1 game with the new manager in charge when he's had so little time to effect things.

Their new manager of course takes time to adjust to the players. and make the best strategy and squad choice for him.
Seeing some of the movement and possession of the ball by Chelsea is quite good. but we have to see it against a stronger team. then we will see the success of Chelsea with their new coach.
There's no need to rush, fans and club management should give the coach more opportunities.

There is no reason to think that Chelsea will start playing well with a new coach very soon. The new coach needs time. A coach needs time to adjust to the players in the team and to understand the mindset of the players. Also the new coach has to find out the internal problems of the team. And it is definitely time consuming. And so I would say Chelsea needs a lot more time to stabilize the squad. And so may they will not fight for Champions League or Premier League title this season. They are already far behind.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 15, 2022, 06:38:35 AM

From yesterday’s game, Yesterday I was able to pick up some sights of improvements on their style of play. The midfield looked set even though it wasn’t well organized when defending. At least Raheem Sterling and Reece James were able to run at defenders and were also having good linkup. I think going forward they looked better. People shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions after 1 game with the new manager in charge when he's had so little time to effect things.

Their new manager of course takes time to adjust to the players. and make the best strategy and squad choice for him.
Seeing some of the movement and possession of the ball by Chelsea is quite good. but we have to see it against a stronger team. then we will see the success of Chelsea with their new coach.
There's no need to rush, fans and club management should give the coach more opportunities.

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I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

Chelsea players were just busy on the pitch missing big opportunities for the club. Sometimes I wonder what's the actual problem in Chelsea, because they have the good players that they need and also have one of the best coach so far until the owner, Todd Boehly got him sack. They lost their first game to Dinamo Zegreb and sharing points with Salzburg not a good results for the blues. Blues main target is to beat their next opponents, and Graham Potter did well in his first game but it was the players that were unserious on the pitch.

There seems to be a new problem for Chelsea this season, I think this is because they were lazy in the transfer market last summer. Yes, this can be an indication of why their game is so chaotic, they even struggle when dealing with weak teams. I'm not trying to compare with Manchester United, but it seems that their situation is almost the same as what Manchester United experienced before.

From yesterday’s game, Yesterday I was able to pick up some sights of improvements on their style of play. The midfield looked set even though it wasn’t well organized when defending. At least Raheem Sterling and Reece James were able to run at defenders and were also having good linkup. I think going forward they looked better. People shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions after 1 game with the new manager in charge when he's had so little time to effect things.

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I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

Disappointment should have hit chelsea fans after their team failed to get full points in that match, but in my opinion, fans should be patient and keep supporting their favorite team both in losing and winning in the match, the change of coaching from Tuchel to Potter has just happened so it is impossible in Soon we will see changes in the game for Chelsea, because after all Potter still needs a lot of time to analyze his team before finding the right squad composition to fill Chelsea main line-up later, the situation at Chelsea today is no different from what happened to Manchester United in when Ten Hag became a new coach, wasn't Manchester also down at first but slowly now they are starting to rise and I think the same will happen to chelsea later.

The same or even worse could happen, changing the coaching baton doesn't solve the problem for now. I agree if their new coach still needs time to see the right composition of players to carry out his strategy, but if it takes too long it will also make things worse. However, everyone wants a fast process when their favorite club is in a bad situation. The process will always happen, but in the process there must be changes, and I don't see the changes they are making with their new coach.

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Leicester is not the Leicester I have seen performances in the last few seasons. Yes, their decline is very clear after being without a win in the Premier League until week 6. Their achievement was only able to play a draw and the rest ended in defeat, which caused them to occupy the bottom of the standings. Not only that, they are one of the two teams that have conceded the most goals.

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