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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 15, 2022, 03:45:46 AM

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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half

If Chelsea becomes worse in performance I will not blame Chelsea , because it is not easy for a team that has been struggling that recently have a new coach to start performing in the best way. This point where Chelsea is I won't be surprised if Chelsea fails to defeat weak teams. After the sacked of Thomas Tuchel I never hoped that with the new coach Chelsea will starts performing better immediately, it will take some time for Chelsea to get better.

The blues actually controlled the game but the 1-1 draw was disappointing for chelsea who played at home. statistically, they played by controlling the game, but the front line of chelsea was deadlocked.

I'm not surprised Chelsea didn't win this game. even though it was a draw, chelsea played with a different dimension of the game in the hands of potter. starting from the basic formation, the use of players, to the strategy that is executed.
Chelsea showed a dominant performance in terms of stats, ball possession and 17 shots.
but as we know, it is not easy for graham potter to restore chelsea's performance back completely in a very short time.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on September 15, 2022, 12:00:57 AM

I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

Disappointment should have hit chelsea fans after their team failed to get full points in that match, but in my opinion, fans should be patient and keep supporting their favorite team both in losing and winning in the match, the change of coaching from Tuchel to Potter has just happened so it is impossible in Soon we will see changes in the game for Chelsea, because after all Potter still needs a lot of time to analyze his team before finding the right squad composition to fill Chelsea main line-up later, the situation at Chelsea today is no different from what happened to Manchester United in when Ten Hag became a new coach, wasn't Manchester also down at first but slowly now they are starting to rise and I think the same will happen to chelsea later.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 15, 2022, 03:42:09 AM

Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

Definitely not the difference Mane has shown so far. He has now developed into a frightening figure for his opponents. Mane is much more aggressive, sharp and threatening in building attacks on Bayern's front lines. Liverpool was wrong to throw it away because it turns out that Nunez has not been able to contribute more than what Mane gave. Nagelsmann created a Mane figure that fits his style of play which is fast-paced, tough, and sharp. As we know, almost every player Nagelsmann taught has always been a dangerous figure on the field.

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It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence.
Chelsea is not a big team anymore.

According to what I saw, it was a fair game. Additionally, I believe Graham Potter should be given more time; after all, this is his first European outing since he took up the job. But, is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Chelsea has lately struggled at home? Can anyone recall a time when Chelsea won at least four straight home matches. It is sad that they are not what they used to be when they play at home.

Nothing good works on the first trial. Graham Potter tried to have gotten a draw in his debut match. Chelsea had dominance all they needed was a good finish. Over time Potter will master his team and know how to improve on his attack and finish line. Lets wait till Chelsea plays crystal Palcae that way it will be easier to tell if sacking Tuchel was a wise decision for Todd.

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Quote from: makishart on September 14, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence.
Chelsea is not a big team anymore.

According to what I saw, it was a fair game. Additionally, I believe Graham Potter should be given more time; after all, this is his first European outing since he took up the job. But, is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Chelsea has lately struggled at home? Can anyone recall a time when Chelsea won at least four straight home matches. It is sad that they are not what they used to be when they play at home.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 15, 2022, 03:45:46 AM

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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half

If Chelsea becomes worse in performance I will not blame Chelsea , because it is not easy for a team that has been struggling that recently have a new coach to start performing in the best way. This point where Chelsea is I won't be surprised if Chelsea fails to defeat weak teams. After the sacked of Thomas Tuchel I never hoped that with the new coach Chelsea will starts performing better immediately, it will take some time for Chelsea to get better.

Agreed, I don't think Tuchel's sacking is the best way because basically with Tuchel already loving or liking being at Chelsea then over time Tuchel will certainly do a good job of improving Chelsea's performance. So a draw I think it's still a good result, instead of losing it's better to draw isn't it and also, if they believe Graham Potter is the right coach then they have to accept the process. It's not easy to build a team, but if the opponent is a team of lower quality then surely it won't take them long to make a good team.

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Quote from: dataispower on September 14, 2022, 05:10:28 PM

It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half

If Chelsea becomes worse in performance I will not blame Chelsea , because it is not easy for a team that has been struggling that recently have a new coach to start performing in the best way. This point where Chelsea is I won't be surprised if Chelsea fails to defeat weak teams. After the sacked of Thomas Tuchel I never hoped that with the new coach Chelsea will starts performing better immediately, it will take some time for Chelsea to get better.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on September 15, 2022, 03:29:05 AM

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Many teams have been destabilised by the departure of one or two players, Liverpool is not the only team who have suffered a player's departure. Mane was that player for Liverpool, his contribution to the team's performance is second to none, one several occasions Mane has always come through for the team especially on tough games. I really miss him and Liverpool have just lost a player that it will be very difficult finding his perfect replacement.

Mane have done many contribution to Liverpool, but Salah way better than Mane and he's become the top scorer on the previous season. This is why Liverpool is fine to increase the Salah's salary, while Mane asking for more higher than Salah, of course Liverpool reject his offer. But at Bayern Munchen, Mane become the most highest paid player for $22 Million/year. I'd honest, Mane performance on Bayern Munchen seems disappointed, but we wouldn't know for the mid-end weeks result.

Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.

Mane has been doing great at Bayern so far,he even scored in a very important match in the Champions League against Inter.At Liverpool is true that the fans wanted more Salah than him because Salah has given the fans much more than Mane did but in the end the choice looks wrong now from the direction of Liverpool and the fans because Salah is not performing as expected despite him getting the best pay rate in Liverpool history so far.

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Many teams have been destabilised by the departure of one or two players, Liverpool is not the only team who have suffered a player's departure. Mane was that player for Liverpool, his contribution to the team's performance is second to none, one several occasions Mane has always come through for the team especially on tough games. I really miss him and Liverpool have just lost a player that it will be very difficult finding his perfect replacement.

Mane have done many contribution to Liverpool, but Salah way better than Mane and he's become the top scorer on the previous season. This is why Liverpool is fine to increase the Salah's salary, while Mane asking for more higher than Salah, of course Liverpool reject his offer. But at Bayern Munchen, Mane become the most highest paid player for $22 Million/year. I'd honest, Mane performance on Bayern Munchen seems disappointed, but we wouldn't know for the mid-end weeks result.

Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 15, 2022, 02:13:04 AM

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Many teams have been destabilised by the departure of one or two players, Liverpool is not the only team who have suffered a player's departure. Mane was that player for Liverpool, his contribution to the team's performance is second to none, one several occasions Mane has always come through for the team especially on tough games. I really miss him and Liverpool have just lost a player that it will be very difficult finding his perfect replacement.

Mane have done many contribution to Liverpool, but Salah way better than Mane and he's become the top scorer on the previous season. This is why Liverpool is fine to increase the Salah's salary, while Mane asking for more higher than Salah, of course Liverpool reject his offer. But at Bayern Munchen, Mane become the most highest paid player for $22 Million/year. I'd honest, Mane performance on Bayern Munchen seems disappointed, but we wouldn't know for the mid-end weeks result.

I don't see it as a failure of Mane because it's clear there are different schemes that are run and I think this is still fine for him.
But for Salah this is clearly felt because when he does not play as usual then indirectly Liverpool's performance, especially in productivity, is clearly seen to be declining at this time.
I don't regret his move from Liverpool but obviously with the current squad Liverpool are still not doing well.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on September 15, 2022, 02:35:22 AM

I have said this a billion times lol, look at Chelsea and you'll see they have no productivity in midfield. Lot of people watch football but don't know how to watch it. You see Jorginho? And Kovacic ? They lacked productivity, and Mason mount ? That's an over rated lad who offers nothing but running and taking corners for Chelsea, ( Bullshit )
As far as I know they will do poor and poor until a solution comes up in midfield. Most balls they played yesterday came from winger's and the full back's, the midfielder's they have are just good at ball recovery, marking and also defending.

Salzburg on one side has many talents and youngins, they should have done more than what they displayed but Chelsea defended very great.

Salzburg always loses the ball when planning attacks. even before being in the Chelsea defense. Chelsea's midfield is indeed very bad. but in that game, you can see how Chelsea's strength is another and plays an important role.
Both teams had a hard time breaking through the opponent's defense. Even Chelsea also had to wait for Salzburg players at the start of the second half who lost focus on getting goals. Chelsea wasted too many chances. there is a problem with the team. if don't deal with it, don't expect too much from Chelsea this season.

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Quote from: makishart on September 14, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

Quote from: dataispower on September 14, 2022, 05:10:28 PM

It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half

It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence.
Chelsea is not a big team anymore.

I have said this a billion times lol, look at Chelsea and you'll see they have no productivity in midfield. Lot of people watch football but don't know how to watch it. You see Jorginho? And Kovacic ? They lacked productivity, and Mason mount ? That's an over rated lad who offers nothing but running and taking corners for Chelsea, ( Bullshit )
As far as I know they will do poor and poor until a solution comes up in midfield. Most balls they played yesterday came from winger's and the full back's, the midfielder's they have are just good at ball recovery, marking and also defending.

Salzburg on one side has many talents and youngins, they should have done more than what they displayed but Chelsea defended very great.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 15, 2022, 02:13:04 AM

Mane have done many contribution to Liverpool, but Salah way better than Mane and he's become the top scorer on the previous season. This is why Liverpool is fine to increase the Salah's salary, while Mane asking for more higher than Salah, of course Liverpool reject his offer. But at Bayern Munchen, Mane become the most highest paid player for $22 Million/year. I'd honest, Mane performance on Bayern Munchen seems disappointed, but we wouldn't know for the mid-end weeks result.

You are quite right with this narration, this is what many do not know and thought that Klopp had some kind of issues with Mane and taking his humility for granted. He needed more than what Liverpool could offer him, which made him move to the club that could offer him, and this is business. But I will not say that one is better between Salah and Mane, they contributed well to the development of the club in the previous years, and they were both great. And this does not justify pay, it is about negotiation.

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Many teams have been destabilised by the departure of one or two players, Liverpool is not the only team who have suffered a player's departure. Mane was that player for Liverpool, his contribution to the team's performance is second to none, one several occasions Mane has always come through for the team especially on tough games. I really miss him and Liverpool have just lost a player that it will be very difficult finding his perfect replacement.

Mane have done many contribution to Liverpool, but Salah way better than Mane and he's become the top scorer on the previous season. This is why Liverpool is fine to increase the Salah's salary, while Mane asking for more higher than Salah, of course Liverpool reject his offer. But at Bayern Munchen, Mane become the most highest paid player for $22 Million/year. I'd honest, Mane performance on Bayern Munchen seems disappointed, but we wouldn't know for the mid-end weeks result.

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yes I see it like that too, Liverpool made a big mistake by releasing Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich. Without Mane, Liverpool started the Premier League this season with less convincing performance. Liverpool have only won twice, drawn three and lost once. In addition, Liverpool also performed poorly in the Champions League. Liverpool had to give up with a landslide score of 1-4 from Napoli. On the other hand, the decline in M Salah's performance was due to Mane being no longer in Liverpool's front line like in previous seasons. Hopefully Darwin Nunez can quickly get his best performance in the near future.

A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..

Many teams have been destabilised by the departure of one or two players, Liverpool is not the only team who have suffered a player's departure. Mane was that player for Liverpool, his contribution to the team's performance is second to none, one several occasions Mane has always come through for the team especially on tough games. I really miss him and Liverpool have just lost a player that it will be very difficult finding his perfect replacement.

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I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

Chelsea players were just busy on the pitch missing big opportunities for the club. Sometimes I wonder what's the actual problem in Chelsea, because they have the good players that they need and also have one of the best coach so far until the owner, Todd Boehly got him sack. They lost their first game to Dinamo Zegreb and sharing points with Salzburg not a good results for the blues. Blues main target is to beat their next opponents, and Graham Potter did well in his first game but it was the players that were unserious on the pitch.

There seems to be a new problem for Chelsea this season, I think this is because they were lazy in the transfer market last summer. Yes, this can be an indication of why their game is so chaotic, they even struggle when dealing with weak teams. I'm not trying to compare with Manchester United, but it seems that their situation is almost the same as what Manchester United experienced before.

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Quote from: Issa56 on September 14, 2022, 05:27:15 PM

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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence,

To me I don't think sterling performed very well in the match, he wasted lot's of opportunities before he could finally score a goal, if he utilized all the opportunities he had am sure Chelsea will have scored more than 1 goal. I prefer James performance in the match, he created lots of opportunities but unfortunately they couldn't convert any of it to goal, I think the new Chelsea coach have lot's to do, his performance in the first match is not really good, I don't think FC Salzburg is a big team that Chelsea shouldn't be able to win, I think Chelsea should be ashamed of their self, they are already at the bottom of the table.

Salzburg was not a big team. that's wrong to call that as a big team. The fact that if people didn't even think about that if tuchel may win against it in this match. I didn't like how graham was maintaining the team. This coach is not having lots of experience by managing the big club like this. I will not call he was bad but he was lucky enough when he was on the brighton. There are so many capable coach in the market but chelsea was picking him, he was a big mistake for chelsea

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Quote from: Ahli38 on September 15, 2022, 12:00:57 AM

I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

Chelsea players were just busy on the pitch missing big opportunities for the club. Sometimes I wonder what's the actual problem in Chelsea, because they have the good players that they need and also have one of the best coach so far until the owner, Todd Boehly got him sack. They lost their first game to Dinamo Zegreb and sharing points with Salzburg not a good results for the blues. Blues main target is to beat their next opponents, and Graham Potter did well in his first game but it was the players that were unserious on the pitch.

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Quote from: Issa56 on September 14, 2022, 05:27:15 PM

Quote from: dataispower on September 14, 2022, 05:10:28 PM

It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence,

To me I don't think sterling performed very well in the match, he wasted lot's of opportunities before he could finally score a goal, if he utilized all the opportunities he had am sure Chelsea will have scored more than 1 goal. I prefer James performance in the match, he created lots of opportunities but unfortunately they couldn't convert any of it to goal, I think the new Chelsea coach have lot's to do, his performance in the first match is not really good, I don't think FC Salzburg is a big team that Chelsea shouldn't be able to win, I think Chelsea should be ashamed of their self, they are already at the bottom of the table.

I also think the same as you. I think people who watch chelsea, especially the chelsea fans themselves, must feel the disappointment that i did. even I can only sigh when watching the chelsea match take place. because FC Salzburg against chelsea is not a very strong team. but it was chelsea who became weak. Many missed opportunities in this match.

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It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .

Whilst Liverpool will definitely get better as the games come, without mincing words it has been a very far from good start for Liverpool, i think they are five points behind City already, now imagine a situation were that gap widens, that prolly means Liverpool can forget about the title, so there is no question of that, Liverpool have started badly in the EPL. It has been them and City going hammer and tongs for the title for the past couple of seasons now, but if they don't improve, and fast, then it might be City and Arsenal, or some other team competing for the title this season.

Everyone knows that they are far away from the title and there is no denying that but the reality is that they are not really giving up just yet, I am guessing that it is going to take a lot more for Liverpool to give up than just 5 points, they are the team that trails City every single year and they are usually behind and they still play a beautiful football just to make sure that if City screws up, they are there to win it.

Obviously City rarely screws up and they win many games in a row, but "just in case" they do, Liverpool is always there. This year they started terribly, but I am guessing that they will recover and do better, they finished third a few years back and then chased City again a year later.

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