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Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky
Moments like this often happen in the Premier League so it's not a new surprise.

MU is lucky enough and remember that the core could be the same if bruno was making own goal. MU didn't have good performance but MU has got some chance to make some goals to the liverpool. Im not sure if the performance from MU will be consistent for the upcoming match.
Exclude maguire from the starting eleven is very good choice. The only problem is if there was another meguire 2 and that's bruno fernandes which has been making so many blunders for its team.
This player didn't perform so well. Sometime de gea was also making a lot of mistakes for its team. So many players in MU always making blunders.

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when Cristiano Ronaldo and Harry Maguire were on the bench it actually made the MU players play better. they like playing comfortably different from usual. And in yesterday's match we saw Casemiro who was present at Old Trafford to watch the Manchester United game. it looks like Casemiro will join Manchester United. This player from Real Madrid is considered to have a positive impact on MU players. because the players greeted Casemiro with a smile more precisely by Raphael Varane who of course we know that they used to play a long time together at Real madrid. so whether from here MU will find a turning point to become a better team. What makes me curious is what's going on with Liverpool. they were seeded before the start of the season. but until now Liverpool have not looked optimal in every game.

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Quote from: hahay on August 23, 2022, 11:55:50 AM

But after losing by Brentford Erik ten Hag implemented a more disciplined training system and additional training as punishment, perhaps because of this the Manchester United squad could play well in the match against Liverpool. Because that's all the info out there, which means it's possible that this method actually works on the team to boost morale and apart from that it doesn't seem to exist.

Extra training as additional punishment does not sit well in my books to be honest, as this could just bring tired legs for the team on game day, but if this is a way to bring the best out of the players and also deliver positive results then let this approach continue!

Quote from: hahay on August 23, 2022, 11:55:50 AM

Because if it's only about Maguire being on the bench, I think Maguire has also been treated like this before who wasn't included in the starting eleven but the result was the same.

Finger pointing isn't supposed to be the name of the game, but as captain of the team, he should take responsibility which he has failed to do in the leadership department...and seeing these bad results come because of poor defensive duties for several seasons says sell or loan these guys out to sort out these problems once and for all!

Quote from: hahay on August 23, 2022, 11:55:50 AM

In addition, the factor of Liverpool's still less than optimal performance could at least make Manchester United win the match, because several key players could not be played, of course, one factor in Liverpool's declining performance at the beginning of this season.

Well for starters Liverpool got beat in the preseason games using a young United team four goals to nil(4-0) and the big guns weren't in at that time for utd, and a win was registered either way...and if the Reds loss is about players then it has to be the absence of Mane who has shown that e left a huge void for the team.

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Liverpool losing to Manchester United have sent the reds message that they need more signing this summer, there's absolutely nothing like we're okay, and contended with the players they got. Jurgen Klopp needs to be extremely desperate to bring in replacement for their injured players. Perhaps United did better and the confidence of the players have risen and it's definitely good news for Erik beating Klopp. If Ronaldo keeps coming from the bench, it would be a good start for young boys in the club, giving them more playing time.

what MU needs is to regenerate players and make young players play more, it has to start today...

I appreciate the ten hag strategy that kept Maguire and Ronaldo on the bench against Liverpool. Ronaldo still looks amazing but Manchester United should not rely too much on him, the issue of his discomfort is not clear yet, it is very likely that he will stay at Manchester United and not move to another team.

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Quote from: hahay on August 23, 2022, 06:38:51 PM

I think the Leicester case was something different in terms of the situation and condition of the big teams or rival teams that existed at that time. At the moment, even though Arsenal are the only team that has won in a row, the team below them is a big team that is certainly ready to compete throughout the season. So yes, after all this is still at the beginning of the season which of course will all change over time. Unless only Arsenal themselves can be consistent then of course Arsenal will be strong at the top of the table, but I'm still not sure for now.

Whether it's Leicester, or West ham is also the same case, they begin with very unprepared which lost versus Brighton and Nottingham, where both clubs is still under performance from them. So, when comparing it with Arsenal, Leicester and West Ham is the middle-standing club on 2021, both have the same vision as Arsenal, but what makes the difference is, that Arsenal rising too fast from them.

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Quote from: AndySt on August 23, 2022, 06:59:16 PM

Let's be honest, but Liverpool from the beginning of this season and Liverpool from previous seasons are still completely different teams, so of course Manchester United fans should be pleased that such a club was beaten, but still it is clearly not worth getting euphoric about this. Another question is, this victory can be a great boost to the team's self-confidence, because the selection of players in the club is quite good. In principle, if a team achieves results even without a player like Ronaldo, then the head coach has every right to continue this practice in further matches, but it is still better in the interests of the club to use such a player, rather than keep him on the bench.

Liverpool losing to Manchester United have sent the reds message that they need more signing this summer, there's absolutely nothing like we're okay, and contended with the players they got. Jurgen Klopp needs to be extremely desperate to bring in replacement for their injured players. Perhaps United did better and the confidence of the players have risen and it's definitely good news for Erik beating Klopp. If Ronaldo keeps coming from the bench, it would be a good start for young boys in the club, giving them more playing time.

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Quote from: Cookdata on August 23, 2022, 06:45:58 PM

To be frank, they play like what every other team ought to have played, despite when Liverpool was giving them hell attacks, they slip through. If they could survive such heat from one of the best in the English league, they can survive the rest of the minor teams on the table.
If what Erik said is true and his strategy actually worked after the match against Liverpool, I don't mind him benching Ronaldo for more matches and then use him for smaller matches to gain more points, this will quickly boost their position on the table without conceding any defeats.

Let's be honest, but Liverpool from the beginning of this season and Liverpool from previous seasons are still completely different teams, so of course Manchester United fans should be pleased that such a club was beaten, but still it is clearly not worth getting euphoric about this. Another question is, this victory can be a great boost to the team's self-confidence, because the selection of players in the club is quite good. In principle, if a team achieves results even without a player like Ronaldo, then the head coach has every right to continue this practice in further matches, but it is still better in the interests of the club to use such a player, rather than keep him on the bench.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky
Moments like this often happen in the Premier League so it's not a new surprise.

To be frank, they play like what every other team ought to have played, despite when Liverpool was giving them hell attacks, they slip through. If they could survive such heat from one of the best in the English league, they can survive the rest of the minor teams on the table.
If what Erik said is true and his strategy actually worked after the match against Liverpool, I don't mind him benching Ronaldo for more matches and then use him for smaller matches to gain more points, this will quickly boost their position on the table without conceding any defeats.

I agree that Manchester United's victory over Liverpool was part of their luck, because many people even though they are big Manchester United fans were surprised by their victory. Other than that, benching Maguire seemed to have worked out quite well for them. Because Martinez, who replaced his role, appeared very extraordinary.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky
Moments like this often happen in the Premier League so it's not a new surprise.

To be frank, they play like what every other team ought to have played, despite when Liverpool was giving them hell attacks, they slip through. If they could survive such heat from one of the best in the English league, they can survive the rest of the minor teams on the table.
If what Erik said is true and his strategy actually worked after the match against Liverpool, I don't mind him benching Ronaldo for more matches and then use him for smaller matches to gain more points, this will quickly boost their position on the table without conceding any defeats.

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Sancho's performance last night was incredible, I was shocked at how he played. I wonder what pep talk Erik Ten Hag had with the players that motivated the team to play so well. I expect Ronaldo to understand this decisions and know how this works so I don't believe he will be offended. It was a brave decision by Ten Hag which turned out very successful one. Manchester United's attack was sharp and they got two goals.

It is early to say that ManU is fine since Liverpool isn't playing well right now. What's noted is the change in some players performance like Sancho, in addition to putting Varane instead of Maguire.
Next games of ManU will be vs Southampton then Leicester and Arsenal.
Leicester isn't top right now, Southampton is mild and of course winning vs Arsenal will be a healing proof for them.

Yes I wouldn't say it's for the best but with Man United's win it has to be a process whether other teams can be overcome with a win or with a bad one again we need to see Erik Ten Hag's process for this one season and yesterday's game made a good change without Maguire so That's good I think at the back there's Martinez and Varane as shields.
Southampton and Leicester I think this has to be beat if I want to say they are good at the moment but the EPL is hard to predict the same with Leeds vs Chelsea.

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Quote from: Yogee on August 23, 2022, 06:09:59 PM

Quote from: zuzie on August 23, 2022, 05:46:14 PM

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Arsenal can only take advantage of this opportunity to continue to collect points before other teams found their best games

I mean this has always been the case for every team that wins the title right? The most notable club that has ever done this is Leicester when they keep racking up points winning by 1-0 margin in most of their games while all the big clubs were struggling. Incredible run that was.

I think the Leicester case was something different in terms of the situation and condition of the big teams or rival teams that existed at that time. At the moment, even though Arsenal are the only team that has won in a row, the team below them is a big team that is certainly ready to compete throughout the season. So yes, after all this is still at the beginning of the season which of course will all change over time. Unless only Arsenal themselves can be consistent then of course Arsenal will be strong at the top of the table, but I'm still not sure for now.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 23, 2022, 06:03:32 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky
Moments like this often happen in the Premier League so it's not a new surprise.

Then it's just a matter of seeing how Manchester United play in the future because at this time they are already quite far behind in points and if they want to get into the number one standings then they need a lot of goals at least fifteen goals in two games and that's very hard to achieve. They have to show that Manchester United is still as strong as ever.

Remember last season ?When Ole Gunner Solskjear got sacked ? Michael Carrick was handed the Job and and did have a great performance I the Champions League and also the Premier League. ( Winning against Villarreal and Drawing Chelsea with Sancho scoring ). Since Sancho scored against Chelsea last season they immediately had a quick turnaround with them performance. Now it's same with Liverpool last night scoring first, winning that game will back them confidence, one player I was happy for was Marcus Rashford immediately after that goal he finally got a successful dribble.

I want more improvement from Diego Dalot, the rest did them job very well, ( Varane, Martinez and Malacia ) How can Manchester United win and Harry Maguire still show signs of not been happy ? Like what the bloody hell!! Go take a check was he smiling ? Great win for Manchester United I can't wait to see the more three signatures flooding inner the club.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 23, 2022, 05:46:14 PM

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Arsenal can only take advantage of this opportunity to continue to collect points before other teams found their best games

I mean this has always been the case for every team that wins the title right? The most notable club that has ever done this is Leicester when they keep racking up points winning by 1-0 margin in most of their games while all the big clubs were struggling. Incredible run that was.

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Quote from: martyns on August 23, 2022, 04:55:59 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky

Manchester United victory against Liverpool was a big and essential test for Erik Ten Hag who have actually proven to be the right coach. United needs at the moment. Although the winning doesn't mean they have come back to winning ways, but their crucial improvements in their playing pattern have make the red devils win the game.

It needs more than one victory to say that the test from Ten Hag is successful. But, not putting Maguire in the first lineup is a wise decision, so that the players can play more calmly and more focus to the matchplay without thinking of another hidden opponent in their club Cheesy

And yes, for sure, this victory doesn't guarantee that Man United turns back stronger. We can keep watching how the next matches will be conducted by them. I am sure that the victory from Liverpool is very mean for Man United and this, of course, boosts up their confidence and spirit on the next macthes. Hopefully, they really can be more consistent.

The last matches were full of surprises, where Chelsea was lost from Leeds United 3-0, the drawn result between Man City vs Newcastle 3-3, and the result from Man United vs Liverpool 2-1. The EPL is always inetresting to watch

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 23, 2022, 04:45:12 PM

Well at least Manchester United got their first win this win can help boost their morale for the next match
I agree with you that this win doesn't mean Manchester United are back on track maybe they are lucky
Moments like this often happen in the Premier League so it's not a new surprise.

Then it's just a matter of seeing how Manchester United play in the future because at this time they are already quite far behind in points and if they want to get into the number one standings then they need a lot of goals at least fifteen goals in two games and that's very hard to achieve. They have to show that Manchester United is still as strong as ever.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on August 23, 2022, 05:30:00 PM

Quote from: zuzie on August 23, 2022, 05:19:03 PM

For now Arsenal really played very well teamwork in every match runs according to strategy this is one of their strengths to succeed in the standings
But Arsenal must remain careful because their competitors may not find the best performance and I'm sure in the following weeks the situation can be different
Arsenal must not be satisfied with this achievement the competition still leaves many matches.

Satisfied you say? This is hardly the goal for Arsenal and so, they need to hunger for more wins and stay consistent else, they would be kicked out of top four real soon. We all know how it goes down in the EPL. Being top of the table at the beginning of the league is not always safe as, your sure to have a lot of competition. I won't be surprised to see Arsenal off the top before we even get to the middle of the league but, it would be a real shame should they not make it to the UCL next season. This could be there best chance with a team as coordinated as this. They really have all ends covered for now and are EPL's favourite watch.

No I mean they can't be satisfied because some competitors have not found cohesiveness some new players still need adaptation at least in the next few weeks
Arsenal can only take advantage of this opportunity to continue to collect points before other teams found their best games like Liverpool which is sometimes unstable.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 23, 2022, 05:19:03 PM

Quote from: borovichok on August 23, 2022, 05:08:15 PM

I think arsenal will do very well this season with their high level performance and how the lads has got use to eachother is amazing, there is lot of chemistry from the midfielders and attackers, in there game this weekend against Bournemouth, the way xhaka and partey transit the ball to the attacking players was amazing and the way the attacking players understand their selves was exciting in the eyes odegard has really understand English football and Saka and Martinelli are very effective, thought Gabriel jesus was the missing puzzle arsenal lack last season that cause them champions League football.

For now Arsenal really played very well teamwork in every match runs according to strategy this is one of their strengths to succeed in the standings
But Arsenal must remain careful because their competitors may not find the best performance and I'm sure in the following weeks the situation can be different
Arsenal must not be satisfied with this achievement the competition still leaves many matches.

Arsenal do have to be careful and don't get too excited about being in the top spot with perfect results so far. Because there are still 35 more games
to be played by Arsenal in the Premier League, it means that there are still many possibilities that will happen. But it must be admitted Arsenal's
great improvement to this stage, because Arteta did a good job, and Arsenal's management has so far provided maximum support to Arteta by providing
a fairly large transfer budget. In fact, it seems that Arsenal have not stopped targeting players in this year's transfer market, the latest rumors are
that Arsenal want to recruit Pedro Neto from Wolves. Reportedly, Arsenal have started negotiations with Jorge Mendes as the player's agent.
Arsenal plan Pedro Neto as a replacement for Nicolas Pepe who will soon be loaned to Nice. I hope Arsenal can get Pedro Neto before the transfer
window closes, because Arsenal do need a lot of quality players to ensure this season can at least be in the top 4.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 23, 2022, 05:19:03 PM

For now Arsenal really played very well teamwork in every match runs according to strategy this is one of their strengths to succeed in the standings
But Arsenal must remain careful because their competitors may not find the best performance and I'm sure in the following weeks the situation can be different
Arsenal must not be satisfied with this achievement the competition still leaves many matches.

Satisfied you say? This is hardly the goal for Arsenal and so, they need to hunger for more wins and stay consistent else, they would be kicked out of top four real soon. We all know how it goes down in the EPL. Being top of the table at the beginning of the league is not always safe as, your sure to have a lot of competition. I won't be surprised to see Arsenal off the top before we even get to the middle of the league but, it would be a real shame should they not make it to the UCL next season. This could be there best chance with a team as coordinated as this. They really have all ends covered for now and are EPL's favourite watch.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 23, 2022, 05:08:15 PM

I think arsenal will do very well this season with their high level performance and how the lads has got use to eachother is amazing, there is lot of chemistry from the midfielders and attackers, in there game this weekend against Bournemouth, the way xhaka and partey transit the ball to the attacking players was amazing and the way the attacking players understand their selves was exciting in the eyes odegard has really understand English football and Saka and Martinelli are very effective, thought Gabriel jesus was the missing puzzle arsenal lack last season that cause them champions League football.

For now Arsenal really played very well teamwork in every match runs according to strategy this is one of their strengths to succeed in the standings
But Arsenal must remain careful because their competitors may not find the best performance and I'm sure in the following weeks the situation can be different
Arsenal must not be satisfied with this achievement the competition still leaves many matches.

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I think arsenal will do very well this season with their high level performance and how the lads has got use to eachother is amazing, there is lot of chemistry from the midfielders and attackers, in there game this weekend against Bournemouth, the way xhaka and partey transit the ball to the attacking players was amazing and the way the attacking players understand their selves was exciting in the eyes odegard has really understand English football and Saka and Martinelli are very effective, thought Gabriel jesus was the missing puzzle arsenal lack last season that cause them champions League football.

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