Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 5248.

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Quote from: john alex young on August 23, 2022, 10:23:57 AM

Manchester United's victory last night was the beginning of the revival of the Red Devils team to pursue the points that were expected by their fans.
but that does not mean Liverpool will be silent. The Reds will continue to improve at least FSG Liverpool owners continue to look for solutions, especially in fixing Liverpool's midfield which is haunted by a storm of injuries.

Liverpool was just unlucky in this match, because in 90 minutes, Liverpool dominated the game and the statistics were good. There's one thing I noticed when the Manchester United players scored the first goal even though there were some Liverpool defenders in the penalty area, they didn't pay attention to the movement of the MU players. Likewise in the second goal, the Liverpool defender was caught off guard and again paid less attention to the movement of MU players. Weaknesses that must be fixed by Klopp. IMO

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"Liverpool is like your boyfriend with no Mane " lol Grin

okay jokes aside but on a serious note, Manchester United put up a good fight last night which we haven't seen in a long time, could this be because captain Maguire was out watching the game from the bench or the team chemistry of the fielded team was better??? If this turns out to be a case of team chemistry am hoping ETH goes with this team and maybe keep Maguire off the team for now! Well done Red devils hope the momentum keeps going with WWWWWW.

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Quote from: Balmain on August 23, 2022, 09:21:02 AM

If De jong joins this team, he will contribute a lot to the defense and forward, he will make solid touches to the forward and back of manchester, I think he is exactly the player he is looking for. Finally, there is the Casemiro transfer. They transferred one of the best Libero players. It was the most important transfer they made this season.

Then I will definitely change my standhas on Manchester United regarding their possible position in the premier league at the end of this season, if they have him "Frank De Jong" at last joins Manchester united. Reason is, with the duo Casemiro and De Jong working together in the club to handle that midfield, that will be incredible in opinion, thus will really bring a lot of changes to Man United team at large and unexpected could happen ( I never expected they would have won Liverpool just after the signing of Casemiro), but this will work out very well if Christiano Ronaldo still remains in the club, because they gonna do the job why Ronaldo will do what he knows very well to do, that finishing.

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Quote from: Balmain on August 23, 2022, 09:21:02 AM

It was one of the best games Manchester United have played in a long time so coach Erik ten Hag seems determined to get things right. One or two transfers are on the agenda.

It is a long time since a last win of Manchester United against Liverpool so this win is important for United to get their confidence back. In addition, the reactions of Klopp and Liverpool players is understandable. They felt hardly accepted a first defeat when their opponent is United. It is because they were not beaten by United for so long and they had first no-winning matches.

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If De jong joins this team, he will contribute a lot to the defense and forward, he will make solid touches to the forward and back of manchester, I think he is exactly the player he is looking for. Finally, there is the Casemiro transfer. They transferred one of the best Libero players. It was the most important transfer they made this season.

I don't think we can assume like this. First, DeJong did not join United. Second, no one knows he would succeed in United if he joins or would fail. Premier League is different than La Liga and requires different skills to play. De Jong is smart and can adapt himself to this league but we can not assume anything.

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If you have read my comments here earlier you will notice where I pointed out that Manchester United will need to perform are a miracle in the match against Liverpool and last night, the game proved that Manchester United have re-strategized their formation to beat the most tteamsin their group this season.

Liverpool's underperformance in the last night's game is quite unusual and Manchester United took advantage of that to make a big difference in their point on the table, this match also shows the level of preparedness in the side of the club which has lost several matches in the past.

Erik Ten Hak's strategy worked flawlessly in that match, Super Pressing was done very well by the players, the rotation was quite impactful, with Erik Ten Hak using Diogo Dalot, Raphael Varane, Lisandro Martinez and Tyrell Malacia to defend the defence.

Manchester United's game scheme already looks good from the start of the game, despite losing possession of the ball, the only player I think is less than optimal is Bruno Fernandez, this player has lost the ball at his feet several times due to holding too much.
so there are some opportunities that can't be solved perfectly.

Other Manchester United players played quite impressively, even Mohamed Salah was made difficult to develop and create chances, so Liverpool had quite a hard time breaking into United's defense, many Liverpool players were frustrated and couldn't do much in the match.

Manchester United's victory last night was the beginning of the revival of the Red Devils team to pursue the points that were expected by their fans.
but that does not mean Liverpool will be silent. The Reds will continue to improve at least FSG Liverpool owners continue to look for solutions, especially in fixing Liverpool's midfield which is haunted by a storm of injuries.

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Quote from: 3meek on August 23, 2022, 08:18:20 AM

I had a hunch Man U could win this game, after all they had to prove that all was not yet lost for them, and Liverpool are also not in very good shape now... And the odds of them winning were very good... But after two disgraceful defeats not many people believed in them, especially against Liverpool...

Manchester United's problems are behind, the name is Maguire and Lindelof, if you observe when Maguire was start to the starting eleven,
MU defense was really messed up, especially De Gea who wasn't good enough to build up from behind,
and luckily they realized that in the match liverpool, by fielding Varane and Lisandro, yes they both played really well

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 08:17:58 AM

1.36 looks ridiculous given that this is not Ligue 1, not the Bundesliga and City are not even in first place right now.

Agreed. Especially since City haven't started that great themselves.

Do they also have odds for 'champion is somebody else than City'? That would be an interesting one to bet on, the odds would have to be close to 3.

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Man United seems to still be playing not so well. although managed to win 2-1 against Liverpool. but it doesn't look good for their undeveloped game.
Man United didn't have much possession of the ball. and they continue to be pressured by Liverpool. Liverpool is also not in their best squad. but Man United showed a pretty good defensive game. they managed to reduce Liverpool's aggressive front line so they didn't make many goals.

It's still early in the season so anything can happen. I don't know if Man United can get better or not. Depending on managing the ideal formation of players, so far there may not be anything wrong if they have managed to be the only club that left Liverpool at the start of the season. Even though the results are thin, what we see is that Man United players are starting to be motivated to improve.

It was one of the best games Manchester United have played in a long time so coach Erik ten Hag seems determined to get things right. One or two transfers are on the agenda. If De jong joins this team, he will contribute a lot to the defense and forward, he will make solid touches to the forward and back of manchester, I think he is exactly the player he is looking for. Finally, there is the Casemiro transfer. They transferred one of the best Libero players. It was the most important transfer they made this season.

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No one would ever think of Manchester United could win Liverpool by this time, every teams is used to winning Manchester United both big and small. Liverpool is a strong team , even if most of their players are having injuries it still doesn't mean it can make one to think Manchester United will have advantage over Liverpool. The victory is a big for Manchester United to succeed in defeating a strong team like Liverpool. The victory for Manchester United winning Liverpool as change a lot of poor mindset towards Manchester United, this can also be a reason for Manchester United to warm up for better performance for upcoming matches.

You're right, even I think the best result is a tie. But both teams did perform pretty evenly a lot of the chances they created. I see the due of Martinez and Varane is pretty good. Martinez was amazing he worked hard, I saw quite a lot of him cut the ball.
In addition, Bruno's performance behind the striker is pretty good. He makes Man United's attack more varied. In addition, the fighting spirit of United players is also extraordinary. They kept running after the ball. Perhaps if Casemiro performs United will be stronger. I hope it's a good start to continue.

Last night Martinez was simply exceptional, specially his aggression. Martinez proved everyone wrong, and with his promising presentation he proved himself best competitor of Maguire right now. Perhaps this is the beginning of great things at Man United. However, It would be negative over hyping the players and losing their minds. At the same time he gives everything and he was a genuine beast on the pitch against Liverpool.

Not only Martinez but overall the duet between Martinez and Varane really gave a good performance,
I think Ten Hag will play regularly between Varane and Martinez,
actually the game against Liverpool can't be the benchmark and we have to see it every game

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Quote from: marcous on August 22, 2022, 04:00:16 PM

Salah did quite well but the goal came in the last minute of the second half so Liverpool couldn't use the remaining time to equalize. from the beginning of the game I chose to support Liverpool but my choice was wrong in this match because Manchester United performed quite brilliantly by scoring an early goal and being able to add a second goal in the second half. Liverpool really lost concentration in this match there is nothing to be proud of. the absence of nunez bad impact for liverpool.

I watched the game from the start and I can really say that Manchester United were in a trance as well as when they put pressure on Liverpool throughout the game. They are very fast and this is something I have rarely seen from Manchester United so far. Liverpool struggled to develop their game and they were quite easy to lose the ball due to high pressure from the Manchester United players. So no doubt if Manchester United could win that game because Liverpool barely made a very dangerous opportunity for Manchester United.

Salah at the end of the second half was in such a good position that he could snatch the rebound for a goal. That was the only chance Liverpool could take to score, while the others all failed. As a result of this victory, Manchester United fans could sleep well last night.

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Quote from: 3meek on August 23, 2022, 08:18:20 AM

I had a hunch Man U could win this game, after all they had to prove that all was not yet lost for them, and Liverpool are also not in very good shape now... And the odds of them winning were very good... But after two disgraceful defeats not many people believed in them, especially against Liverpool...

I admit that Man United's defense is strong and Liverpool's attacks are still being blocked but that night must admit the defeat even though many say it's surprising, without a win in 3 matches Liverpool is still a bit bad, but I believe the process is still going on and it's still a long way then there is a possibility that in the future it can be improved after many failures that cannot reach perfect points.
But I'm sure if Darwin Nunez returns to the field the attack will be a bit more aggressive than Firmino.

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Quote from: rozak on August 23, 2022, 08:28:03 AM

Man United seems to still be playing not so well. although managed to win 2-1 against Liverpool. but it doesn't look good for their undeveloped game.
Man United didn't have much possession of the ball. and they continue to be pressured by Liverpool. Liverpool is also not in their best squad. but Man United showed a pretty good defensive game. they managed to reduce Liverpool's aggressive front line so they didn't make many goals.

It's still early in the season so anything can happen. I don't know if Man United can get better or not. Depending on managing the ideal formation of players, so far there may not be anything wrong if they have managed to be the only club that left Liverpool at the start of the season. Even though the results are thin, what we see is that Man United players are starting to be motivated to improve.

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Quote from: 3meek on August 23, 2022, 08:18:20 AM

I had a hunch Man U could win this game, after all they had to prove that all was not yet lost for them, and Liverpool are also not in very good shape now... And the odds of them winning were very good... But after two disgraceful defeats not many people believed in them, especially against Liverpool...

Man United seems to still be playing not so well. although managed to win 2-1 against Liverpool. but it doesn't look good for their undeveloped game.
Man United didn't have much possession of the ball. and they continue to be pressured by Liverpool. Liverpool is also not in their best squad. but Man United showed a pretty good defensive game. they managed to reduce Liverpool's aggressive front line so they didn't make many goals.

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The Premier League is indeed difficult to predict, but other leagues are also difficult to predict because the lower teams can beat the top teams. Winning and losing cannot be separated from strategy and its application in the field. Chelsea were defeated by Leeds United for failing in strategy. The luck factor must also exist apart from strategy.
Manchester City drew 3-3 with Newcastle United due to luck and a change of strategy implemented by Pep Guardiola in the second half.

Chelsea weak point in my opinion is on the front line and many observers say the tough task that must be addressed by Thomas Tuchel lies up front.
Before Chelsea lost against Leeds United, a similar incident had occurred which Chelsea had to fix when they lost against Arsenal at Camping World Stadium-Florida, 24 July in a friendly before the Premier League started.

Who would have thought Newcastle United will get three goals against the league Giants. I placed a bet on Manchester City to win the game and to my surprise it turned out not as I expected. Chelsea also were shocked by Leeds in the weekend, I think their strategy and tactics didn't work out for them, it only shows no team should be underestimated in the English Premier league.

Therein lies the difference between the Premier League and other leagues, so many players from the world league want to experience the challenge of playing in the English Premier League.

Yesterday's Manchester United vs Liverpool game was the answer to what we were talking about.
Manchester United was booed by many parties for various problems that occurred both internally at the club and related to player performances, but the fact is that Manchester United was able to win over the team that was held to lift the EPL title. trophy of the season.

Manchester United winning a team like Liverpool that is currently as sick as they are is no guarantee that the red devil's are back on track. Currently Liverpool is suffering from the absence of their players that are suffering from injury hence their absence.
Not until Manchester United have to meet currently well to do teams like Tottenham or man City or probably with a good streak win against their next game with Southampton then we can say the red devils are back to their status as known for.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 23, 2022, 06:23:47 AM

I highlight the duo between Varane and Martinez in defense which is indeed the key to Manchester United's victory in my opinion. As we can see, how solid their defense is, it seems that this will be a new duet in the Ten Hag era. With his promising performances I don't think Maguire will be the first choice now. But we'll see, whether the Ten Hag will maintain their duet or even trust Harry Maguire to guard the defensive area. If that's the case, it's probably true that he is a deposit player who should always be featured.

It is undeniable that Martinez contribution has indeed provided such a tight defense. He is a specialist in blocking attacks from all directions, that's the skill Manchester United needs. If Maguire existed I'm not sure the defense would be this tight. Besides that, I don't see Bruno showing his selfishness the way he does on the pitch. But here he is a leader and can control his friends very well. If this kind of formation continues to be improved, it is possible that we will see positive things.

For today's appreciation, it may be appropriate that Manchester United is trying to get out of the pressure zone. Don't be too happy just yet because in front of a big storm awaits. What we are looking forward to is Casemiro jersey number which will certainly add strength to the midfield.

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I had a hunch Man U could win this game, after all they had to prove that all was not yet lost for them, and Liverpool are also not in very good shape now... And the odds of them winning were very good... But after two disgraceful defeats not many people believed in them, especially against Liverpool...

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So, United have one and a half times more points than Liverpool and only one point less than Chelsea Grin

Is United back in business?
By the way, now is the time to bet on the outcome of the championship (if you believe that City will not become a champion):

Manchester city 1.36
Liverpool 7.50
Arsenal 11.10
Tottenham Hotspur 12.20
Chelsea 22.10
Manchester United 47.00

1.36 looks ridiculous given that this is not Ligue 1, not the Bundesliga and City are not even in first place right now.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 23, 2022, 12:54:11 AM

The reason they placed bets on Liverpool was because Manchester United performance was poor, even they were humiliated by a team that should have been able to beat easily. Who would have thought that Manchester United could break the bad assumptions on them, bettors who placed bets on Liverpool had to bow down to the reality on the pitch.
The victory achieved by Manchester United surprised all parties, because Liverpool came to Old Trafford as the favorite team.

to be honest manchester game is better than the previous two games. Varane and Martinez looked stunning in the match, what's interesting about this match is the strategy of Erik who made their mainstay player Maguire a substitute in this match. And the results are very positive and get support from the fans for Erik decision, fans hope for the next match Erik prefers to play Varane and Martinez in defense rather than choosing Maguire.

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A chaotic week for bettors, from the start of Chelsea and then Manchester City to Liverpool as the favorites to lose while proving every match is not easy to predict. It doesn't matter what percentage of a team can be favourites, because when a match goes on anything can happen without anyone guessing it right. Unless they get lucky and/or know there is a cause and effect that only they know. But that way at least for the Manchester United team they will get their best morale back, if their winning mentality returns then of course Manchester United still has a chance to be able to continue to improve from week to week.

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Liverpool fans never believe that what happened yesterday will happen to them like the way it happened to Chelsea fans to experienced their own shocked that made many people to believed that many things has changed in this season, because all the strong teams in last season are receiving shocking defeat from teams that didn't perform well last season. What really brought Liverpool down yesterday is defenders, because their defenders was very weak from the beginning of the match till the end of the match, which was seriously giving Manchester united strikers opportunity to have access to achieved those two goals from the match.

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