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Quote from: icalical on August 10, 2022, 11:36:35 PM

Quote from: Piesel on August 10, 2022, 05:05:02 PM

Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.

Last season there was a bit of conflict between the players for example, in a match some players prioritize selfishness
Problems like this will never be officially released we can only see their expressions when playing
but this season it shouldn't happen again because some players have left the club.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on August 10, 2022, 11:23:31 PM

Indirectly, many things affect Manchester United not playing in their best performance, since the Ferguson era ended Manchester United lost a coach who could lift the spirits of their players, as evidenced by the matches they played, the mockery of the fans made the players more depressed and unprofessional on the field.

Ferguson's era for Manchester United has become a great history that cannot be forgotten, but Manchester United fans must also support Erik Ten Hag at this time so that Manchester United players can be even more enthusiastic and Manchester United's performance can also increase because it is for the sake of proving that Erik Ten Hag can also be able to bring Manchester United at its best.

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Quote from: icalical on August 10, 2022, 11:36:35 PM

I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.

in the end the possibility is still only one, they still can't maximize their players now and actually this is a pretty difficult homework even 2 coaches have been victims last season.
Expectations for Ten Hag at the beginning of his recruitment were too high even though the burden given to Ten Hag was clearly very large, apart from improving the mentality of the players, he was also required to play well and reach at least the top 4 clearly this is something difficult even though the MU squad is really strong. really good in terms of players but when their strategy and motivation to play is quite weak then this is indeed a difficult thing for Ten Hag to do.

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Quote from: Piesel on August 10, 2022, 05:05:02 PM

Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.

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Quote from: makishart on August 10, 2022, 10:48:12 PM

Quote from: Piesel on August 10, 2022, 05:05:02 PM

Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

No man, that's not the best performance from MU. Last game was the worst performance by this team. Can you call a big team like MU lose 2 goal at the first half? that's shit. For a big team like MU and that is too far from its usual performance.
The problems are even exist after a few times MU changed its coach. I don't know why but there's no one who can be the same like sir alex.

Indirectly, many things affect Manchester United not playing in their best performance, since the Ferguson era ended Manchester United lost a coach who could lift the spirits of their players, as evidenced by the matches they played, the mockery of the fans made the players more depressed and unprofessional on the field.

For example, Maguere, before moving to Manchester United this player was quite good at playing at his old club, he was able to secure the final box area very well, but after joining Manchester United, several times made mistakes at the beginning of the game and received a negative response from the fans, so that currently Maguere has not returned to his best form, this is what the new coach of Manchester United must fix, restore the spirit of the players from all pressures, because speaking of quality, all Eropa players already have their own qualities.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on August 10, 2022, 10:08:16 PM

I think there are two reasons that at least make Ten Hag still choose Maguire as a starter and captain. First one, it could be the decision of Man United's boards, and Ten Hag will have to comply. The second possibility, Maguire's fame was the reason he was chosen regardless of his performance, which Man United had to spend a lot of money on to sign Maguire, and they don't want to waste it. In addition, Maguire is part of the national team, thus triggering a conclusion that if he deserves to play for the English team, then he also deserves to play regularly at Man United.

I don't know why Maguire still as priority for central defender on Manchester United still they have option with Raphaël Varane, Lisandro Martínez and Victor Lindelöf, although still have another option with Eric Bailly. I know with how much expensive transfer values made by Manchester United to get Harry Maguire from Leicester City but he never miss moment made mistake on defensive Manchester United area. I think not fault keep make another tandem on next match when Manchester United against with Brentford, I think Erik Tan Hag need give space with new tandem between Lisandro Martinez with Raphaël Varane on central defender or give an option by using third central defender with Victor Lindelöf.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on August 10, 2022, 11:03:47 PM

This is not even debatable. Arteta is a very good and intelligent manager. From where the team started to where it finished last season, no one on earth would have thought that they were still running for the UCL spot till the last game. With so many young players around you its easy to sway away. I always believe in Arteta because of his role as a former captain and passion for the club. Believing in a youthful team is his main strength and I hope Arsenal will do better and qualify for the Champion league this season.

One of the interesting things about Arteta is that he is willing to bet there, If we can see him last season clearly we still remember that he was almost fired because Arsenal's game was so bad at the start of the season but Arteta was willing to bet there and asked for a little more chance. In the end the bet he made really paid off because indeed his performance improved drastically and is now even better.
But this is quite reasonable. With that much money poured in, it would be outrageous if they were still in the middle position in the league.

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Quote from: makishart on August 10, 2022, 10:48:12 PM

Quote from: Piesel on August 10, 2022, 05:05:02 PM

Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

No man, that's not the best performance from MU. Last game was the worst performance by this team. Can you call a big team like MU lose 2 goal at the first half? that's shit. For a big team like MU and that is too far from its usual performance.
The problems are even exist after a few times MU changed its coach. I don't know why but there's no one who can be the same like sir alex.

Yes, with the composition of players that MU currently has, it is not a good performance and does not fit to be called a good performance.
Regardless of the results, they still play without any coordination there which makes it seem like they are learning to play rather than being called professional players.
With the quality of their players now it's not very appropriate if they really controlled the game but had to lose with a quick counter-attack and it happened 2 times in a row in 1 match.

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Quote from: Avirunes on August 10, 2022, 10:28:24 PM

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Arsenal have had Arteta as their manager for three years. I also don't think that he is the best manager for this team but they still somehow manage to do a nice job recently. They are just bad at making the finale good in a season. They missed the Champions League by a small gap last season for example. However the scenario might be different this season. They have strengthened the lineup quite much and they seem more ambitious now. Hopefully Arteta can make this team qualify for the Champions League this time.

Regarding Arteta, I think he is doing a great job. Last season aI think we had our objective to make a good finish but we did pretty good except for not making into CL and dropping some golden opportunities at last but I think out of all the most important thing is to build the squad and over the years Arteta has done that. I think he is the right manager we have now who is helping build a squad strong and competitive for quite some years in future.

This is not even debatable. Arteta is a very good and intelligent manager. From where the team started to where it finished last season, no one on earth would have thought that they were still running for the UCL spot till the last game. With so many young players around you its easy to sway away. I always believe in Arteta because of his role as a former captain and passion for the club. Believing in a youthful team is his main strength and I hope Arsenal will do better and qualify for the Champion league this season.

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Quote from: Piesel on August 10, 2022, 05:05:02 PM

Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

No man, that's not the best performance from MU. Last game was the worst performance by this team. Can you call a big team like MU lose 2 goal at the first half? that's shit. For a big team like MU and that is too far from its usual performance.
The problems are even exist after a few times MU changed its coach. I don't know why but there's no one who can be the same like sir alex.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2022, 06:52:50 PM

Arsenal have had Arteta as their manager for three years. I also don't think that he is the best manager for this team but they still somehow manage to do a nice job recently. They are just bad at making the finale good in a season. They missed the Champions League by a small gap last season for example. However the scenario might be different this season. They have strengthened the lineup quite much and they seem more ambitious now. Hopefully Arteta can make this team qualify for the Champions League this time.

Regarding Arteta, I think he is doing a great job. Last season aI think we had our objective to make a good finish but we did pretty good except for not making into CL and dropping some golden opportunities at last but I think out of all the most important thing is to build the squad and over the years Arteta has done that. I think he is the right manager we have now who is helping build a squad strong and competitive for quite some years in future.

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Quote from: RILWAN on August 10, 2022, 04:33:34 PM

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Quote from: BALIK on August 10, 2022, 12:30:32 PM

Ten Hag said in a press that they want to continue to rely on Maguire next season. He should definitely withdraw from this decision. If he wants to do better than Manchester United, he should definitely look for a more talented defender.

The fact that he cant find anyone suitable for that position yet means he had to rely on either Maguire or Varane for now. Both are actually pretty bad and McTominay was covering alot of those spaces that Maguire made. It was a lame performances from Manchester United and it was a home game however there is nothing that he can do for now except get 3 points on the next one

Who will replace that player in that position that will perform better, the player bench of Manchester United is empty of defenders and that is why the fans were clamoring for more player signing when the transfer window was open. But now that the league has started this decision will affect Manchester United negatively.

MU is really fragile in defense. but I don't understand why Manchester United didn't buy a lot of players in the transfer market this season to make up for the shortfall. Even MU who continues to target De Jong from Barcelona until now there is still no certainty. even though the season has started and if this problem is allowed to drag on then MU's reputation could be destroyed. Now I'm starting to understand why Cristiano Ronaldo wanted to leave this team.

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Quote from: Yogee on August 10, 2022, 05:15:59 PM

Quote from: Falconer on August 10, 2022, 04:47:17 PM

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You don't have to doubt his quality, he just needs support to be calm enough as a defender.

He's not some baby that needs emotional support from fans and his ability should be questioned too.

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I somehow think Maguire has been booed more than supported by the Manchester United fans, but that doesn't affect the coach who continues to give him chances.

I can't blame the fans for doing so. Choosing him to play consistently may not have an immediate effect on the manager but it will after the team starts dropping from the table.

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You know, Maguire is a player who is currently worth €38 million at centre-back. If he's not a quality player then I'm sure he won't get the chance to play many match last season in the Premier League.

Why would you bring his contract to assess his quality as a player? Why not look at it from the field?

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He was the captain of the team, but he didn't get the respect he deserved.

What exactly did he do to deserve the respect you are talking about? His pricetag and captainship doesn't mean a lot in this case. Fans give them to the player if he's really good at what he does based on what they see on the field.

I don't want to be rude about it, so a little sarcasm even though I don't like Maguire's appearance so far. This is the best way to express my opinion on Maguire's situation, you can rest assured that anyone who loves Premier League football knows Maguire well so don't think I am happy with this situation if you don't know what I want to say.

To be honest, I really wish Ten Hag would no longer entrust him as team captain. He has to be loaned out to another team and that is a precaution that I think will unite the Manchester United squad and the fans. But anyway, Maguire as a player has to earn respect, you have to have a little respect for him even if you really hate him. He plays for Manchester United, not for us who just come to love the team.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 10, 2022, 05:44:20 PM

Quote from: lalabotax on August 10, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

There is something wrong with Man United management and Ten Hag, it doesn't make sense to give a captain to someone who often made mistakes like Maguire. I sometimes realize that some Man United players are angry with Maguire, but the coach seems not to care about it. If Maguire continues to be the captain, I think most of the players of Man United won't play with confidence because they know they have weak defense by having Maguire on the lineups, even worse he is a captain.

Man United started the new season very badly, in the first match against Brighton, Man United had to suffer defeat. In that match even Man United
had to fall behind by two goals first and finally managed to score one consolation goal. Even Harry Maguire, who was Man United's captain in the match,
made a mistake before the game started. So before entering the field Maguire misplaced his squad lineup, then David De Gea and Scott McTominay
reminded Maguire what he did was wrong. As a team leader what Maguire did was embarrassing, I'm also confused as to why Erik ten Hag let
Harry Maguire still be captain. If this continues, maybe Man United will return to playing badly like the previous season. Hopefully Erik ten Hag soon
realizes that Maguire doesn't deserve to be captain of Man United. I think Harry Maguire, who had a bad impact on the Man United squad,
should have been sold. Because it was proven that Harry Maguire had made a lot of mistakes during his time as a Man United player.

I think there are two reasons that at least make Ten Hag still choose Maguire as a starter and captain. First one, it could be the decision of Man United's boards, and Ten Hag will have to comply. The second possibility, Maguire's fame was the reason he was chosen regardless of his performance, which Man United had to spend a lot of money on to sign Maguire, and they don't want to waste it. In addition, Maguire is part of the national team, thus triggering a conclusion that if he deserves to play for the English team, then he also deserves to play regularly at Man United.

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Quote from: vennali on August 10, 2022, 06:20:58 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 09, 2022, 06:59:32 PM

Both Tottenham and Arsenal have improved their squad quality. So, it is interesting to see how good their performance will be and how far their achievement this season. Since their squad are strong enough, they can be two serious competitors for Man City and Liverpool to win EPL title. Not only about the squad quality, Tottenham and Arsenal also have good managers (coaches), especially Tottenham. Everyone must know what Antonio Conte has achieved in the past.

Read: https://www.transfermarkt.com/antonio-conte/erfolge/trainer/3517

Spurs do have a proven manager but I'm not sure about Arsenal having a good manager. They are putting their trust on Mikel Arteta, who's an unproven manager is pretty big for a club as big as Arsenal. He is getting the results for now though. So, its all good but once the results don't go the teams way. He will be the first one on the chopping block.

Arsenal have had Arteta as their manager for three years. I also don't think that he is the best manager for this team but they still somehow manage to do a nice job recently. They are just bad at making the finale good in a season. They missed the Champions League by a small gap last season for example. However the scenario might be different this season. They have strengthened the lineup quite much and they seem more ambitious now. Hopefully Arteta can make this team qualify for the Champions League this time.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 09, 2022, 06:59:32 PM

Both Tottenham and Arsenal have improved their squad quality. So, it is interesting to see how good their performance will be and how far their achievement this season. Since their squad are strong enough, they can be two serious competitors for Man City and Liverpool to win EPL title. Not only about the squad quality, Tottenham and Arsenal also have good managers (coaches), especially Tottenham. Everyone must know what Antonio Conte has achieved in the past.

Read: https://www.transfermarkt.com/antonio-conte/erfolge/trainer/3517

Spurs do have a proven manager but I'm not sure about Arsenal having a good manager. They are putting their trust on Mikel Arteta, who's an unproven manager is pretty big for a club as big as Arsenal. He is getting the results for now though. So, its all good but once the results don't go the teams way. He will be the first one on the chopping block.

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Quote from: Falconer on August 10, 2022, 04:47:17 PM

Hahaha, he is Manchester United's favorite player and he will be played at every opportunity even if you have to prepare a sedative for your heart. You don't have to doubt his quality, he just needs support to be calm enough as a defender. I somehow think Maguire has been booed more than supported by the Manchester United fans, but that doesn't affect the coach who continues to give him chances.

You know, Maguire is a player who is currently worth €38 million at centre-back. If he's not a quality player then I'm sure he won't get the chance to play many match last season in the Premier League. He was the captain of the team, but he didn't get the respect he deserved.

I think you’re right when you say that he’s been booed and ridiculed far more than he’s been supported by Manchester United fans and supporters. And I also think he feels really pressured when he plays. He’s the captain of the team and I think the pressure to lead the squad gets to him sometimes. I think the scouts and club manager thought it wise to bring him into the squad and for a valid reason too. I think we should be more supportive and cheerful as that might just bolster the much needed morale of the team.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 10, 2022, 05:44:07 PM

Is an exciting time to be a Tottenham Hotspur fan, I have never seen an early transfers as they did this summer since Dani levy became chairman,so the new players can integrate with their teammates in pre season, another thing is the quality of the squad, having players like Kane and Son can improve any team in the world but Tottenham have more than that the also have talent like kulusevski and Richarlison that can lift the burden of goals from son and kane, then the depth in the full backs position is so amazing.

Tottenham Hotspur F.C. have advantages in strategy and teamwork that is very compact, of course that can all happen when there are coaches and management who have the same goal and can give a good appreciation to the teams they have and when that happens it's not just Kane and son who will play well but all team members will work well together and can give victory because football will not be able to win if there is no good team work.

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Quote from: lalabotax on August 10, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

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But Ten Hag once said that Maguire would still be captain and he's a good defender, but I'm not sure myself but why Ten Hag believed in him so much even though before Maguire was bad and had frequent blunders, Ten Hag still gave hope for Maguire to remain a defender and captain.

There is something wrong with Man United management and Ten Hag, it doesn't make sense to give a captain to someone who often made mistakes like Maguire. I sometimes realize that some Man United players are angry with Maguire, but the coach seems not to care about it. If Maguire continues to be the captain, I think most of the players of Man United won't play with confidence because they know they have weak defense by having Maguire on the lineups, even worse he is a captain.

Man United started the new season very badly, in the first match against Brighton, Man United had to suffer defeat. In that match even Man United
had to fall behind by two goals first and finally managed to score one consolation goal. Even Harry Maguire, who was Man United's captain in the match,
made a mistake before the game started. So before entering the field Maguire misplaced his squad lineup, then David De Gea and Scott McTominay
reminded Maguire what he did was wrong. As a team leader what Maguire did was embarrassing, I'm also confused as to why Erik ten Hag let
Harry Maguire still be captain. If this continues, maybe Man United will return to playing badly like the previous season. Hopefully Erik ten Hag soon
realizes that Maguire doesn't deserve to be captain of Man United. I think Harry Maguire, who had a bad impact on the Man United squad,
should have been sold. Because it was proven that Harry Maguire had made a lot of mistakes during his time as a Man United player.

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Is an exciting time to be a Tottenham Hotspur fan, I have never seen an early transfers as they did this summer since Dani levy became chairman,so the new players can integrate with their teammates in pre season, another thing is the quality of the squad, having players like Kane and Son can improve any team in the world but Tottenham have more than that the also have talent like kulusevski and Richarlison that can lift the burden of goals from son and kane, then the depth in the full backs position is so amazing.

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