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Quote from: snipie on October 26, 2021, 12:55:17 PM

Zidane want to be the manager of the French national team so he will most likely reject any offer or maybe accept a short term contract for 1 season + possible extension maybe?
Conte might be available but as you said he don't last long while ManU needs some stability...
I think these 2 managers are better than the actual one.

I think Conte would be a great option for Manchester United. He would have brought order and disruption to the club. Manchester United have very good players, but they simply cannot show an excellent result without a strong coach. Why is Conte spent so little time in the clubs? Perhaps after a club under his leadership showed good results, he asks for a pay increase, or he is lured away by other clubs. Manchester United is unlikely to take Zidane as coach, his results are too ambiguous in the world of big football.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 26, 2021, 09:19:34 AM

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Zidane vs Konte

Though the situation in Manchester United now is the one of any other person apart from Ole. But there is an indication or link pointing Konte and Zinane as either options to replace Ole.

My Fear
1. Zidane is good and a master class with Only Real Madrid. He has not been tested with other clubs.
2. Konte is good and result oriented, has been tested by many clubs with good results but doesn't last long in any club.

Hiring Zidane could be experimental and Hiring Konte could be an extension of Manchester United management issues since Sir Fergie left . Could this be a dilemma?

No, it's not a dilemma because whoever meets the criteria that the Manchester United management expect then he will get an offer and contact him. Between Zidane and Conte, I think the two coaches have different qualities and Conte is much better because he has a lot of experience in England before. The question is, is Conte interested in coaching Manchester United?

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 26, 2021, 09:19:34 AM

Any Other But Not Ole

Zidane vs Konte

Though the situation in Manchester United now is the one of any other person apart from Ole. But there is an indication or link pointing Konte and Zinane as either options to replace Ole.

My Fear
1. Zidane is good and a master class with Only Real Madrid. He has not been tested with other clubs.
2. Konte is good and result oriented, has been tested by many clubs with good results but doesn't last long in any club.

Hiring Zidane could be experimental and Hiring Konte could be an extension of Manchester United management issues since Sir Fergie left . Could this be a dilemma?

Zidane want to be the manager of the French national team so he will most likely reject any offer or maybe accept a short term contract for 1 season + possible extension maybe?
Conte might be available but as you said he don't last long while ManU needs some stability...
I think these 2 managers are better than the actual one.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 26, 2021, 12:01:03 PM

Some coaches don't like taking job in the middle of the season. I think Manchester United is using these three matches mandate to buy time and search for a perfect and long term replacement of Ole.
But in whatever situation, Manchester United needs to understand two things;
1. Manchester United fans and players have lost confidence in the leadership of Ole, any further attempt to delay his exit will also be bad. Better to sack him and let Carrick take the 3 matches.
2. Any new coach must be given 5 experimental matches to adapt, add these to the current woes of Manchester United and you will predict what their condition will be.

I am feeling your suggestion is much better because Ole already lost his confidence and now players are also talking about this too much which is not good for team's moral now it's time for quick action and fired Ole with new caretaker coach on and talk with few which suits bring him for better results because right now situation is some better, and they can handle if they lost few more matches this could be disaster for them and their team.

Ole already have some good time and completely fail in his strategies because he is unable to handle these big guys mostly peoples was feeling Ronaldo's entry could be having big impact, but it's not works mean now just change of coach is better for all parties and management need some quick work for this.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 25, 2021, 10:12:29 AM

Ole didnt have much experience when he joined Man Utd and that is showing up now at Man Utd.Ole didnt win any title with Man Utd and now got destroyed by their arch rivals 0-5 at home,that is just humiliation at its finest. Conte is an amazing coach but we will see if he join Man Utd or Newcastle

Become a hot topic of discussion in every corner of the media. Manchester United is being talked about as a big club that failed to run its star players. Even Ronaldo has not opened his voice until now, Ole is finished and finally all will demand the Manchester manager to act more firmly that Manchester's future must not be made to fall like this.
I can't understand it, the world is in an uproar with the massacre by Liverpool against Manchester United.

I wonder what the right steps will be for Manchester United going forward.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on October 26, 2021, 10:45:13 AM

These managers are not even on my wish list. Man united is too BIG. There are better tacticians out there that are better than these two. Zidane knows pretty well he won't succeed in the Premier league especially not with a lazy team like United, and he is very wise to have turned down the job. Man United need a coach with a very strong personality to impose his authority on these bunch of lazy and overpride players and Conte is the best man available for that. I would have picked Luis Enrique as my first choice if he was available. But Conte never takes any job mid season.

If have to choose zidane vs conte then i think conte is more worthy he is more experienced I haven't seen another coach more worthy
After reportedly ignoring Newcastle Conte signaled for Manchester United as if he knew Manchester would look for him

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 26, 2021, 09:19:34 AM

Any Other But Not Ole

Zidane vs Konte

Though the situation in Manchester United now is the one of any other person apart from Ole. But there is an indication or link pointing Konte and Zinane as either options to replace Ole.

My Fear
1. Zidane is good and a master class with Only Real Madrid. He has not been tested with other clubs.
2. Konte is good and result oriented, has been tested by many clubs with good results but doesn't last long in any club.

Hiring Zidane could be experimental and Hiring Konte could be an extension of Manchester United management issues since Sir Fergie left . Could this be a dilemma?

I agree with you with almost every part. Zidane has been with only one club- Real Madrid so he had the team what he wanted and drove them to lot of trophies and achievements. As for Conte, he is more like a team builder which United needs right now. He could do a lot better than the managers United had I believe after Ferguson and bring in a good chemistry within the team which United needs right now. Doesn't matters if he leaves later on at least he could give them a direction.

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Solskjaer has been given 3 more games to try and turn the things around. These 3 games are Tottenham away, Atalanta away and Man City at home, so a really tough schedule.

What this probably means is that it is already decided that he will be replaced but they want to buy some time to find a replacement while Solskjaer is still trying to be at his best.

It looks likely that Conte will take over - a good choice for United if they give him freedom to build his team as he wants. A horrible choice if they don't though.

I also don't know why management has insisted on keeping Solskjaer this season even though he has had negative results in every Manchester United game so far, in my opinion, it's not the right decision if the current management puts the fate of Manchester United at risk in those three games.
I think if Manchester United really wants to change their coach, it's best not to wait for those 3 games, because Manchester United is a big team and many coaches want to coach them, especially Zidane and Conte who are reportedly very ready to replace Solskjaer.

Some coaches don't like taking job in the middle of the season. I think Manchester United is using these three matches mandate to buy time and search for a perfect and long term replacement of Ole.
But in whatever situation, Manchester United needs to understand two things;
1. Manchester United fans and players have lost confidence in the leadership of Ole, any further attempt to delay his exit will also be bad. Better to sack him and let Carrick take the 3 matches.
2. Any new coach must be given 5 experimental matches to adapt, add these to the current woes of Manchester United and you will predict what their condition will be.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 26, 2021, 08:51:29 AM

This is a great example that shows how good Ranieri is Strategic. And him winning the league with Leicester was not luck, but a Strategical genius. Even I was so surprised when Watford managed to score 5 against Everton at their home. I loved their build-up play from the midfield and they were able to convert the chances they got. Currently, they are 14 in the league, I'm hoping they can finish the season in the top 10, maybe top 8 If I'm pushing it too hard?

Indeed, there was an improvement in the Watford team during the match with Everton yesterday, unlike the case at Man United vs Liverpool. After being beaten badly by Liverpool they improved their strategy against Everton. In the next match against Southampton, they must have a strategy that can beat this team which is lower in the standings than Watford. So that yesterday's victory was significantly correct, not a victory based solely on luck over a hattrick from the players. Liverpool are currently feeling really euphoric after beating Watford 5 - 0 and so is Man United. Will their luck continue so that it is worthy of being the next bet.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 26, 2021, 09:19:34 AM

Any Other But Not Ole

Zidane vs Konte

Though the situation in Manchester United now is the one of any other person apart from Ole. But there is an indication or link pointing Konte and Zinane as either options to replace Ole.

My Fear
1. Zidane is good and a master class with Only Real Madrid. He has not been tested with other clubs.
2. Konte is good and result oriented, has been tested by many clubs with good results but doesn't last long in any club.

Hiring Zidane could be experimental and Hiring Konte could be an extension of Manchester United management issues since Sir Fergie left . Could this be a dilemma?

These managers are not even on my wish list. Man united is too BIG. There are better tacticians out there that are better than these two. Zidane knows pretty well he won't succeed in the Premier league especially not with a lazy team like United, and he is very wise to have turned down the job. Man United need a coach with a very strong personality to impose his authority on these bunch of lazy and overpride players and Conte is the best man available for that. I would have picked Luis Enrique as my first choice if he was available. But Conte never takes any job mid season.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 26, 2021, 08:30:26 AM

Solskjaer has been given 3 more games to try and turn the things around. These 3 games are Tottenham away, Atalanta away and Man City at home, so a really tough schedule.

What this probably means is that it is already decided that he will be replaced but they want to buy some time to find a replacement while Solskjaer is still trying to be at his best.

It looks likely that Conte will take over - a good choice for United if they give him freedom to build his team as he wants. A horrible choice if they don't though.

I also don't know why management has insisted on keeping Solskjaer this season even though he has had negative results in every Manchester United game so far, in my opinion, it's not the right decision if the current management puts the fate of Manchester United at risk in those three games.
I think if Manchester United really wants to change their coach, it's best not to wait for those 3 games, because Manchester United is a big team and many coaches want to coach them, especially Zidane and Conte who are reportedly very ready to replace Solskjaer.

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There have been sensational scores in the Premier League this week. Chelsea beat Norwich 7-0. The shattered Norwich must recover quickly after this defeat. Watford beat Everton 2-5 away. It was an unpredictable score in this match. I did not expect Watford to win such a win. Moreover, away. In the most important match of the week, there was an unexpected score again. Manchester United lost 5-0 at home. It was a perfect match for Liverpool. They found great morale.

Yes, Chelsea are trying and playing good, but like I have once comment about, this was just a bonus match for Chelsea, Norwish City is in its weakest form and preparing to relegate, but I was quite excited to see Chelsea won that game.

If you read my post before this one, you can see how confident I was that the match is definitely for Liverpool. It wasn't a surprise at all and very possible Man United will not even win any league or cup this season. C. Ronaldo's glory has been with Real Madrid, because if not with Juventus, I doubt coming back to Man United will do Man United good.

Of course, you can predict that he will win. However, since it is ManU, I think it is difficult to predict that they will get a crushing 5-0 defeat. I wasn't expecting such a different score. Now the game is over and we have to look to next week. Next week, ManU will play against Tottenham. I think they have a chance to win that match. Liverpool will play with Brighton in form.

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Any Other But Not Ole

Zidane vs Konte

Though the situation in Manchester United now is the one of any other person apart from Ole. But there is an indication or link pointing Konte and Zinane as either options to replace Ole.

My Fear
1. Zidane is good and a master class with Only Real Madrid. He has not been tested with other clubs.
2. Konte is good and result oriented, has been tested by many clubs with good results but doesn't last long in any club.

Hiring Zidane could be experimental and Hiring Konte could be an extension of Manchester United management issues since Sir Fergie left . Could this be a dilemma?

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It looks like Watford made history just yesterday, playing away against Everton and who would have thought Watford could win by a score of 2-5. I personally don't really consider Watford to win, because Everton are still looking good so far at home. Also, their head to head I think it can be seen clearly where Everton really dominates, but yesterday's match of course Watford managed to make a surprise and make a new history for a big win record away against Everton.

It is this kind of results, games and surprises, which makes the Premier League, considered the best football league in the world. What is most expected does not always happen. And because of that, we understand why English fans fill the stadiums in every game of their teams.

In the case of Watford win against Everton I believe it has proven to be the tactical changes and input by their new manager Ranieri, no analyst would ever expect Watford to win at Goodison Park after struggling in the league which culminated to the sacking of their former manager. however I also agreed that EPL is the most competitive league in the world where any team cannot be underrated, a league where an upset can be created where an undergod team can defeat a top club thus defies all sort of analysis and predictions.

This is a great example that shows how good Ranieri is Strategic. And him winning the league with Leicester was not luck, but a Strategical genius. Even I was so surprised when Watford managed to score 5 against Everton at their home. I loved their build-up play from the midfield and they were able to convert the chances they got. Currently, they are 14 in the league, I'm hoping they can finish the season in the top 10, maybe top 8 If I'm pushing it too hard?

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Solskjaer has been given 3 more games to try and turn the things around. These 3 games are Tottenham away, Atalanta away and Man City at home, so a really tough schedule.

What this probably means is that it is already decided that he will be replaced but they want to buy some time to find a replacement while Solskjaer is still trying to be at his best.

It looks likely that Conte will take over - a good choice for United if they give him freedom to build his team as he wants. A horrible choice if they don't though.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 25, 2021, 10:12:29 AM

Ole didnt have much experience when he joined Man Utd and that is showing up now at Man Utd.Ole didnt win any title with Man Utd and now got destroyed by their arch rivals 0-5 at home,that is just humiliation at its finest. Conte is an amazing coach but we will see if he join Man Utd or Newcastle

Last season Ole was not bad, he managed to bring MU to finish in 2nd place. By signing Ronaldo, I think MU will be better this season. Apparently, MU still couldn't improve its position until week 9.

If we look at Conte's achievements, I will think the same, maybe Conte can improve United's position. However, back to how the players managed to carry out the strategy instructed by the coach or not. Any coach can be fail, we have to remember that. At least, MU needs to bet on changing coaches. IMO

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 26, 2021, 01:50:46 AM

Quote from: hahay on October 26, 2021, 01:39:28 AM

It looks like Watford made history just yesterday, playing away against Everton and who would have thought Watford could win by a score of 2-5. I personally don't really consider Watford to win, because Everton are still looking good so far at home. Also, their head to head I think it can be seen clearly where Everton really dominates, but yesterday's match of course Watford managed to make a surprise and make a new history for a big win record away against Everton.

It is this kind of results, games and surprises, which makes the Premier League, considered the best football league in the world. What is most expected does not always happen. And because of that, we understand why English fans fill the stadiums in every game of their teams.

In the case of Watford win against Everton I believe it has proven to be the tactical changes and input by their new manager Ranieri, no analyst would ever expect Watford to win at Goodison Park after struggling in the league which culminated to the sacking of their former manager. however I also agreed that EPL is the most competitive league in the world where any team cannot be underrated, a league where an upset can be created where an undergod team can defeat a top club thus defies all sort of analysis and predictions.

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Don't get too excited this is Arsenal we are talking about here, sooner or later they will return to default settings and the. #ArtetaOut campaign will begins.

I completely agree with what you said, nowadays arsenal often play inconsistently and they will probably win in 3 or 4 matches against small teams, but when faced with other big teams it seems they lose mentally in playing, I think the next match is against leicester city and liverpool we will see how arsenal really is and I doubt that arsenal's consistency will last long in the next match.

With the right set of players and winning mentality any team will put in a good performance against their opponents. Arsenal are doing good with the way they are playing. Six games unbeaten runs, you think it’s easy? What if you were a Manchester United fan and you are not getting the results you want with the trips of stars in your team? Arteta is doing a good work at the moment. Leicester city is a stronger team but we have a good record against them. I am not sure about Lacazette and Aubameyang for now because they lipped out from the game against Aston Villa. If they are fully fit and with the same aggressive we used against Aston Villa and Tottenham, Arsenal will definitely win against Leicester city. They have one of the weakest defense in the Premier league this season.

Arsenal journey this season is indeed quite unique, they were able to bounce back from consecutive defeats and in the end achieved an unbeaten result in the last 6 matches, then does this immediately make Arteta's performance better at Arsenal? I don't think so, because arsenal is currently not very tested when it comes to facing big teams and if they are able to win against leicester and liverpool in the next two games then i will take my hat off at that time, even though arsenal has a good record when dealing with leicester city , but what you need to remember is that now leicester city is no longer a team to be underestimated and they are starting to turn into a team that is quite troublesome for the big teams of the english league, regardless of the statistics, i am very sure that later leicester city will stop the positive trend arsenal at King Power Stadium.

Arsenal are recovering well in this exciting premier league for me. They have achieved good results in the last matches, the matches ahead of Arsenal are very critical, they have matches with Liverpool and Manchester United, if they can manage to score in these matches, then everyone will take off their hats. Today, Leichester may force Arsenal, even mutual goals, but Arsenal will be the winner today.

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Interestingly enough, now Arsenal and United have the same number of points, which could hardly have been foreseen at the start of the championship. It is very sad to see United fall like this. It is even more interesting to see that the management of the club continues to trust Solskjaer and refutes all rumors related to his replacement. At the moment it is difficult for me to understand the logic of these decisions.

I have said it that one of our main problems in this club is this too much power and influence that was given to Ferguson. The board may like Ole, but it's the players that are on the field. The attitude of the players would matter. Already, some senior players are against his tactics. So the more Ole imposed on the players, the worst results should be expected. Terrible place to be in for anyone. He's lost the dressing room..players are just pretending, which is very annoying. I'm not taking that game any serious. At the same time Ole is out of his widths. The players, board and legends still love Him but He's not upto the task.

In fact, I see no reason to go into details and look for different excuses / reasons for the club's poor performance. United has a great roster (top 3 in aggregate value in the world), Solskjaer has been coaching the club for three years, but the results are not up to expectations. I do not see any reason to expect that the situation will change dramatically for the better, while Solskjaer will remain the head coach. And now it is the drastic changes that are needed in order for United to be able to claim good results.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 26, 2021, 05:14:07 AM

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Arsenal has powered up, Arsenal condition has turned around, they are only bad at the beginning, Arteta quickly recovery the condition with a new formation and strategy, they never lost on 5 games, No, I don't hear the mockery again for the arsenal. this is different with MU since Ronaldo come, Idk why, maybe Ole didn't build the team around Ronaldo, and now they are made fun of.

Interestingly enough, now Arsenal and United have the same number of points, which could hardly have been foreseen at the start of the championship. It is very sad to see United fall like this. It is even more interesting to see that the management of the club continues to trust Solskjaer and refutes all rumors related to his replacement. At the moment it is difficult for me to understand the logic of these decisions.

I have said it that one of our main problems in this club is this too much power and influence that was given to Ferguson. The board may like Ole, but it's the players that are on the field. The attitude of the players would matter. Already, some senior players are against his tactics. So the more Ole imposed on the players, the worst results should be expected. Terrible place to be in for anyone. He's lost the dressing room..players are just pretending, which is very annoying. I'm not taking that game any serious. At the same time Ole is out of his widths. The players, board and legends still love Him but He's not upto the task.

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