Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 6845.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 11:39:59 AM

I see the injury is a gift for Rashford. He will have more time to be out of football, wipe out of pressure and bad memory in the Euro 2020.

About Solskjaer, I don't have belief that he will find a good position to use Rashford. He failed in two seasons and now he has Sancho. He won't have to rely on Rashford like his early days in Manchester United.

I feel you need to find yourself another sport to watch if you claim Rashford has failed in 2 seasons lol. I tell you and i repeat it to you that in the whole of EPL, No Left winger has a better stat than Marcus Rashford; Rashford had over 30 g+a in the league last season with a broken shoulder and bad ankle and you call him a failed winger ?

Jadon Sancho is a good addition to the Manchester United team, he joins Diallo as the only creative wingers in the team, something Ole balls lacked last season.

Remember, that Marcus Rashford is a Score first kinda winger, Sancho / diallo - a create first kinda winger; while Martial - Can dictate play with his ball retentive skill and hodl up play. Interesting season ahead in Manchester United.

A fit again Rashford will get 50 g+a stats; i cant wait

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There will be a question on what will Solskjaer do with Van de Beek this season either he give him more time or will he keep him out of the squad for most of the periods?
He transformed from main player a in Ajax to a seat warmer on the bench between him and the nearest supporter, a distance of only two meters.
This player was not brought to an end, but was at the height of giving.

It is weird for Van de Beek because Manchester United considered him as a very important player for them to release Pogba from defense. Nevertheless, he has never been given real chances to show since the transfer to Old Trafford.

I feel like Solskjaer did not want to have Van de Beek and that transfer was finished by someone else, and don't have any interests from Solskjaer.

There are more news encouraging Pogba leaving Manchester as they will have to pay 15 million pounds for him if he got sold to PSG who wants to win his services.
Pogba has one year left in United's contract, and he earns a weekly salary of 290k pounds. United fears that he will give up Pogba's services after the expiration of his contract, and for this reason, he may not mind moving the player to Saint-Germain if he receives a suitable offer, but in return he must commit to paying the value of his salaries in the last year of his contract.
Pogba refused to sign a new, improved contract with Manchester United, stipulating that he would receive a weekly salary of 400,000 pounds which is a lot of money to refuse.
Giving Pogba for free would be a disaster for Manchester United, who paid a lot of money in this class to buy the services of English winger Jadon Sancho and French defender Raphael Varane.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 11:14:52 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on July 31, 2021, 11:03:29 AM

Transfermarkt show market value as 28 million Euro, transfer fee as 58.5 million Euro so these numbers are correct. You know transfer fee and market value are different things. Sometimes you have to pay much more transfer fee than market value to get players because teams are not willing to sell their players from market value. Just because Arsenal paid White 58.5 million Euro don't make his market value same. Actually you can see this in manager games as well, things work like that in football business. It's still a good deal for both teams, Brighton got good money and Arsenal got one of the best defenders in the league.
https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/ben-white/profil/spieler/335721

Who is Ben White? I did not know that player? It seems he is not famous and is not mentioned popularly on social media.

The fee is too expensive in my opinion. Why do Arsenal need Ben White because they have Rob Holding? I tried to search with Wikipedia and he does not have good record. Ben White.

Why does he have too expensive fee on the market?

Fee paid by Arsenal to sign Ben white is too exorbitant as you rightly said probably because he is just 23 years old and was called up into the England squad in the recently concluded Euro 2020 as a replacement for injured Arnold might trigger the huge fees placed on him, although its a good signing by Arsenal despite the huge fee I hope he will justify the huge price placed on him and perform well in Arsenal central defence just like when Kieran Tierney was signed from Celtic I hope to watch him compete with holding and Gabriel for the role of central defence position Arteta is trying to strengthen his defence lines who are prone to costly mistakes and error especially at set pieces thus conceding goals.

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Quote from: Avirunes on July 31, 2021, 07:02:27 AM

What I think is that they are possibly maybe thinking of letting Rashford or Martial go in future. Sancho has played left wing in Dortmund mostly and with this big signing I am sure Ole is gonna place him in left wing where Rashford played the whole time in last season and wasn't very productive. On right, it would be Greenwood and center Cavani for now. I think Ole is gonna keep on switching Rashford, Martial and Cavani next season.

I honestly do not think that will happen, but another offensive player was a big move. Right now they have Bruno playing behind Rashford, so that is striker and number 10 already there, and they had Greenwood and Martial playing at the sides of them as well, so they had 4 perfect players for their positions, why get Sancho in that case?

I am not saying that Sancho is worse, Sancho could be better than any player there, certain is higher in price, but that doesn't change the fact that for that much money they could have gotten 2 big names for defense, or even an amazing goalkeeper as well. What I do not understand is the need for another offensive player. Could they make it 5 ahead? They certainly can, put Bruno a bit more midfield, put Martial along with him or a bit ahead of him, put Rashford on striker and greenwood/sancho on the sides. But they certainly didn't "need" this.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 11:39:59 AM

I see the injury is a gift for Rashford. He will have more time to be out of football, wipe out of pressure and bad memory in the Euro 2020.

It was only a shoulder injury and it was 2 weeks ago so by the time Manchester United start the 1st match of the season then he is probably fit enough to play already. Seriously though, being injured is not a 'gift' for any football player because thats the least thing they wanted to happen and it could also affect their whole career because some other player might take their spot on the starting lineup

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The career of Rashford stucks after the appearance of Solskajer in Old Trafford. He is a player need space to play and to use his speedy run. Solskajer tries to use Rashford as a striker that is not a best position for him.

It might be best for all, Solskajer, Rashford and the club if he can play at the left wing, Sancho at the right wing and Cavani in the centre of their attacking system.

Cavani will be given more opportunities with key passes from Sancho, Rashford and Bruno. He will be able to score from 20 to 30 goals for Manchester United.

Rashford dropped in performance and I think EURO has a negative impact on him psychologically and now the injury... He will sure recover and Solskajer will try to find a suitable position for him with the new players.
Meanwhile in City, Grealish seems closer to move with a record signing?

Disagree with your opinion about Rashford dropped performance in EURO 2020, I think EURO he can't show how great performance because not got enough minutes playing, last match only play when extra time and left few minutes on the field with wrong position as left back. I know he was failed to score on penalty kick but I believe Rashford still most danger forward for Manchester United.

Rashford is a pacy winger,no doubt,he wasn't given more playing time at the Euro tournament so we can't start judging whether he has dropped form or not.He is still whom he used to be.I think the trio,Rashford,Sancho,and Cavani will be one of the deadliest front three we will have in EPL next season.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 11:39:59 AM

Quote from: snipie on July 31, 2021, 11:32:53 AM

Rashford dropped in performance and I think EURO has a negative impact on him psychologically and now the injury... He will sure recover and Solskajer will try to find a suitable position for him with the new players.

I see the injury is a gift for Rashford. He will have more time to be out of football, wipe out of pressure and bad memory in the Euro 2020.

About Solskjaer, I don't have belief that he will find a good position to use Rashford. He failed in two seasons and now he has Sancho. He won't have to rely on Rashford like his early days in Manchester United.

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Meanwhile in City, Grealish seems closer to move with a record signing?

With Grealish, Manchester City will have another player to share with Bernado Silva and Kevin De Bruyne. They will become stronger and bring more challenge to other clubs in the competition for Premier League trophy. Will Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United be able to beat Man City?

Ah! What a way to put it, an injury turning a gift. I really don't wish to see it that way as, being off the pitch for a young talent like Marcus Rashford who more than anything would desire to play, being on the pitch, beating himself up by making serious impact on every game is one way to scale through the effect the Euro must have had on him.
You know, he was brought in as a die minute substitute in extra time probably for the purpose of the penalty shootout and he failed both his coach and the team. Its not an easy thing to handle himself coupled with the ridicule that would be rained on him from the fans. I don't know but the pitch is the best way to getting some excitement and relief from the Euro.

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Quote from: snipie on July 31, 2021, 11:32:53 AM

Rashford dropped in performance and I think EURO has a negative impact on him psychologically and now the injury... He will sure recover and Solskajer will try to find a suitable position for him with the new players.

I see the injury is a gift for Rashford. He will have more time to be out of football, wipe out of pressure and bad memory in the Euro 2020.

About Solskjaer, I don't have belief that he will find a good position to use Rashford. He failed in two seasons and now he has Sancho. He won't have to rely on Rashford like his early days in Manchester United.

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Meanwhile in City, Grealish seems closer to move with a record signing?

With Grealish, Manchester City will have another player to share with Bernado Silva and Kevin De Bruyne. They will become stronger and bring more challenge to other clubs in the competition for Premier League trophy. Will Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United be able to beat Man City?

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 01:34:56 AM

The career of Rashford stucks after the appearance of Solskajer in Old Trafford. He is a player need space to play and to use his speedy run. Solskajer tries to use Rashford as a striker that is not a best position for him.

It might be best for all, Solskajer, Rashford and the club if he can play at the left wing, Sancho at the right wing and Cavani in the centre of their attacking system.

Cavani will be given more opportunities with key passes from Sancho, Rashford and Bruno. He will be able to score from 20 to 30 goals for Manchester United.

Rashford dropped in performance and I think EURO has a negative impact on him psychologically and now the injury... He will sure recover and Solskajer will try to find a suitable position for him with the new players.
Meanwhile in City, Grealish seems closer to move with a record signing?

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Quote from: ingiltere on July 31, 2021, 11:03:29 AM

Transfermarkt show market value as 28 million Euro, transfer fee as 58.5 million Euro so these numbers are correct. You know transfer fee and market value are different things. Sometimes you have to pay much more transfer fee than market value to get players because teams are not willing to sell their players from market value. Just because Arsenal paid White 58.5 million Euro don't make his market value same. Actually you can see this in manager games as well, things work like that in football business. It's still a good deal for both teams, Brighton got good money and Arsenal got one of the best defenders in the league.
https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/ben-white/profil/spieler/335721

Who is Ben White? I did not know that player? It seems he is not famous and is not mentioned popularly on social media.

The fee is too expensive in my opinion. Why do Arsenal need Ben White because they have Rob Holding? I tried to search with Wikipedia and he does not have good record. Ben White.

Why does he have too expensive fee on the market?

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 30, 2021, 03:19:06 PM

Actually Arsenal did not confirm that Ben White transfer fee was £50 million this value is just speculation from the media so it can't be ascertained its accuracy
Based on transfermarkt the price for Ben White is £28 million, usually the price of players does not differ much from the value there

Transfermarkt show market value as 28 million Euro, transfer fee as 58.5 million Euro so these numbers are correct. You know transfer fee and market value are different things. Sometimes you have to pay much more transfer fee than market value to get players because teams are not willing to sell their players from market value. Just because Arsenal paid White 58.5 million Euro don't make his market value same. Actually you can see this in manager games as well, things work like that in football business. It's still a good deal for both teams, Brighton got good money and Arsenal got one of the best defenders in the league.
https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/ben-white/profil/spieler/335721

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I really feel bad for all these young talents and he is not the only one. He was the star player at Ajax but there were also other superstars I argue are even bigger, at least 2 I can remember who went to Chelsea and also almost did not play anything sometimes not even on the bench. I remember not one single guy scored more than 10 goals at Chelsea and they had top strikers from US and Germany

Ziyech did not have good first season in Chelsea and he used to be a very important player in Ajax. He together with de Beek and de Jong made a very strong midfield area for Ajax and brought that club to Champions League semi final.

Premier League is not an easy league to adapt to for newcomers. No matter how talented they are.

Yes, sometimes people say it is overrated but the statistics themselves show you it is not,,, from the amount of running and the amount of tackling especially English game is a lot more physical and demanding than other leagues and the first thing that shows for new players is their lack of fitness. I guess in Netherlands league they are more relaxed and people are more free to play creatively but in England you get chopped down for that:)

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 31, 2021, 01:34:56 AM

The career of Rashford stucks after the appearance of Solskajer in Old Trafford. He is a player need space to play and to use his speedy run. Solskajer tries to use Rashford as a striker that is not a best position for him.

It might be best for all, Solskajer, Rashford and the club if he can play at the left wing, Sancho at the right wing and Cavani in the centre of their attacking system.

Cavani will be given more opportunities with key passes from Sancho, Rashford and Bruno. He will be able to score from 20 to 30 goals for Manchester United.

What I think is that they are possibly maybe thinking of letting Rashford or Martial go in future. Sancho has played left wing in Dortmund mostly and with this big signing I am sure Ole is gonna place him in left wing where Rashford played the whole time in last season and wasn't very productive. On right, it would be Greenwood and center Cavani for now. I think Ole is gonna keep on switching Rashford, Martial and Cavani next season.

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Quote from: hahay on July 31, 2021, 01:29:26 AM

I think there is still enough time to be able to prepare everything to be really fit, but with Rashford it is different. Because after surgery, Rashford will then go through a recovery and/or rehabilitation period, not only missing his first match against Leeds, at least Rashford will miss the next few weeks and will certainly miss a lot of games at the beginning of the season. Indeed, it will be a loss for United, but I think it is the right move and fast because it was done before the season started, so that Rashford can return to play in the middle of the season.

The career of Rashford stucks after the appearance of Solskajer in Old Trafford. He is a player need space to play and to use his speedy run. Solskajer tries to use Rashford as a striker that is not a best position for him.

It might be best for all, Solskajer, Rashford and the club if he can play at the left wing, Sancho at the right wing and Cavani in the centre of their attacking system.

Cavani will be given more opportunities with key passes from Sancho, Rashford and Bruno. He will be able to score from 20 to 30 goals for Manchester United.

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Quote from: snipie on July 30, 2021, 03:20:50 PM

Some ManU news: Ole warned his international players who played EURO and Copa America that they might not participate in Leeds game if they weren't fit enough but the sad part is Rashford risk to miss that match since he has to be operated for shoulder injury as soon as the surgeon is available so in less than a week, other sources said imminently! source

I think there is still enough time to be able to prepare everything to be really fit, but with Rashford it is different. Because after surgery, Rashford will then go through a recovery and/or rehabilitation period, not only missing his first match against Leeds, at least Rashford will miss the next few weeks and will certainly miss a lot of games at the beginning of the season. Indeed, it will be a loss for United, but I think it is the right move and fast because it was done before the season started, so that Rashford can return to play in the middle of the season.

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I've heard that Liverpool are still making an effort to sign Gladbach's young (24) central midfielder Florian Neuhaus. He is a target for Jurgen Klopp but it seems like Liverpool won't be able to meet the demand of the team which is £34m. Neuhaus got 8 goals and 10 assists in 45 games in the last season. He could be a good alternative if he is signed.

Liverpool are after Sassuolo's young (23) player Manuel Locatelli also. He played really great in the Euro 2020. Let's see if they are able to sign him.

Neuhaus would be an interesting transfer. I didn't perceive him as strong as Liverpool obviously does, but I would like to see a typical German player get a chance to prove himself in a world class team like Liverpool. I think in the upcoming season Keita will definitely play an important role in Liverpool's midfield. If he gets his games and is in top shape he is for sure an awesome midfielder.

I'm not sure Liverpool can bring in Neuhaus, because the price of Neuhaus is quite expensive. In addition, Neuhaus himself said that he had no interest in leaving Monchengladbach any time soon. So He Will Stay At Borussia-Park As Long As He Wants Cheesy

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 30, 2021, 06:59:26 PM

I've heard that Liverpool are still making an effort to sign Gladbach's young (24) central midfielder Florian Neuhaus. He is a target for Jurgen Klopp but it seems like Liverpool won't be able to meet the demand of the team which is £34m. Neuhaus got 8 goals and 10 assists in 45 games in the last season. He could be a good alternative if he is signed.

Liverpool are after Sassuolo's young (23) player Manuel Locatelli also. He played really great in the Euro 2020. Let's see if they are able to sign him.

Neuhaus would be an interesting transfer. I didn't perceive him as strong as Liverpool obviously does, but I would like to see a typical German player get a chance to prove himself in a world class team like Liverpool. I think in the upcoming season Keita will definitely play an important role in Liverpool's midfield. If he gets his games and is in top shape he is for sure an awesome midfielder.

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Do you think Ben White is a good transfer deal for Arsenal? I mean he's a talented young player but 50 million £ seems too much, isn't it?
Arteta looks happy about it. I hope he performs well and maybe Gunners will sell him for higher price later. 5 year deal is secure enough for the player. I wonder which other defenders you can buy with same amount of money, I still feel it's overpriced. Hopefully return of that investment would be good in the pitch.

Actually Arsenal did not confirm that Ben White transfer fee was £50 million this value is just speculation from the media so it can't be ascertained its accuracy
Based on transfermarkt the price for Ben White is £28 million, usually the price of players does not differ much from the value there

I've not actually watched Ben White play,but according to sources that I can confide in,I heard he's a very good defender,very versatile and solid at the back.I also heard he's ambidextrous.It is yet to be seen what he can contribute to Arsenal team,but let's hope he is a good signing.

I think it makes sense why a lot of people don't know Ben White's game, because he's from Brighton, where Brighton often loaned Ben White
to other teams. I'm confused as to why Arteta chose Ben White, because I think there are many other defenders who are better than Ben White.
Then based on rumors circulating the price is quite expensive, hopefully Ben White's game doesn't disappoint and can make a good contribution
to Arsenal.

I too had this feeling that Arsenal wouldn’t pay $50 million for a player, and hence the valuation of £28 million makes lot of sense to me. Also Arteta knows he only has half a season to save his job, so I’m pretty sure White will turn out to be an excellent buy for Arsenal or we’ll see him getting sacked and I personally hope the former situation comes true.

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Quote from: ingiltere on July 30, 2021, 03:04:30 PM

Do you think Ben White is a good transfer deal for Arsenal? I mean he's a talented young player but 50 million £ seems too much, isn't it?
Arteta looks happy about it. I hope he performs well and maybe Gunners will sell him for higher price later. 5 year deal is secure enough for the player. I wonder which other defenders you can buy with same amount of money, I still feel it's overpriced. Hopefully return of that investment would be good in the pitch.

Actually Arsenal did not confirm that Ben White transfer fee was £50 million this value is just speculation from the media so it can't be ascertained its accuracy
Based on transfermarkt the price for Ben White is £28 million, usually the price of players does not differ much from the value there

I've not actually watched Ben White play,but according to sources that I can confide in,I heard he's a very good defender,very versatile and solid at the back.I also heard he's ambidextrous.It is yet to be seen what he can contribute to Arsenal team,but let's hope he is a good signing.

I think it makes sense why a lot of people don't know Ben White's game, because he's from Brighton, where Brighton often loaned Ben White
to other teams. I'm confused as to why Arteta chose Ben White, because I think there are many other defenders who are better than Ben White.
Then based on rumors circulating the price is quite expensive, hopefully Ben White's game doesn't disappoint and can make a good contribution
to Arsenal.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 30, 2021, 06:59:26 PM

I've heard that Liverpool are still making an effort to sign Gladbach's young (24) central midfielder Florian Neuhaus. He is a target for Jurgen Klopp but it seems like Liverpool won't be able to meet the demand of the team which is £34m. Neuhaus got 8 goals and 10 assists in 45 games in the last season. He could be a good alternative if he is signed.

It is not a stat for a normal central defender and it reminds me about top-notch central defenders like Sergio Ramos or John Terry. It is more impressive as Neuhas has 10 assists. He is a very good investment for the future of Liverpool defense system.

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Liverpool are after Sassuolo's young (23) player Manuel Locatelli also. He played really great in the Euro 2020. Let's see if they are able to sign him.

About Locatelli, I don't think he will have intention to leave Serie A because there are very few Italian players can succeed in Premier League. Only Zola and Di Canio as I know. In Liverpool, there are Aquilani and Borrini who failed in AnField stadium.

If Locatelli want to join bigger clubs, he would choose one in Serie A.

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