Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 78.

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Team	Point
Liverpool	45
Nottingham Forest	37
Arsenal	36
Chelsea	35
Newcastle	32
Man. City	31
Bournemouth	30
Fulham	29
Aston Villa	29
Brighton	27
Tottenham	24
Brentford	24
West Ham	23
Man. United	22
Crystal Palace	20
Everton	17
Wolves	16
Ipswich Town	15
Leicester	14
Southampton	6

Can we say that Manchester City is officially in crisis?

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Quote from: Weawant on January 01, 2025, 08:14:49 AM

The loss against Newcastle made it the first time after decades that Manchester united gets to suffer four consecutive premier league losses in a row, seeing that game, i could say that they weren't deserving of any goal in the first half of the game going by their performance that game,

The only thing that made the match look as if Manchester United was the dominant team is because of the wining because if Newcastle United had pressured them to that extend and still win them it would have look too bad, but the wining cover up everything for them. However back to the matches we have today on England championship, Burnley and Stoke City is playing 0:0, Cardiff is wining Coventry City 1:0 while Sheffield Wednesday is also wining Derby County 1:0 and a lot more is currently playing, however I think Sheffield Wednesday and Derby County may play draw because the dominant is not only on one side and several attempt has been made by Derby county.

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In a few hours there will be a match between Brentford vs Arsenal and of course, if I don't do any analysis then I will still choose Arsenal to win even though Arsenal playing away. But, if I consider about the results about Brentford has so far this season for home matches, in fact Brentford has very good results. But, at the same time I also consider, that Brentford so far this season at least still hasn't gotten difficult opponents of the top Premier League teams, so that might make Brentford have good results for home matches so far this season.

But anyway, if I consider other factors such as their head to head results then ofcourse, Arsenal will still have a chance to win in this away match. But, with Bukayo Saka injury, then I feel that it might also have an adverse impact on Arsenal's performance, which will certainly not be easy to beat Brentford at the Brentford Community Stadium.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on January 01, 2025, 08:41:59 AM

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In the Premier League or in any league, defeat is something that is avoided by big teams because it has the potential to repeat the next defeat in the next match and the problem is actually defeating a much weaker team because it will slightly disrupt the morale of the players. Ipswich is one of the weak teams and they are in a relegation position and should not make Chelsea lose three points when facing a team like this because in terms of quality they are far below Chelsea.

I also can't understand why Chelsea could lose to a team like Ipswich which I even assumed that Chelsea could win easily when facing the team in the Premier League. But in reality it was the opposite and the defeat experienced by Chelsea has also placed them in the top four because Nottingham Forest was still able to win in their 19th week match this season. And for the next match Chelsea must be able to win so that their position remains safe in the top four zone.

I've always watched out for games against team that are in the relegation zone and how they play against teams that are doing very well. They had nothing to loose and so they played Chelsea with full force and were able to break out Chelsea defense so easily.

Same Chelsea that said they are not in the title race are not struggling to win against a relegation ipwitch and had to go down 2:0 at the time the need the point most to help them stand strong in the top position of the league table. Look at Nottingham forest who have remained strong and are gradually going up the table and Newcastle and man city are getting right back which might end up taking Chelsea out of the top six of the table. Even with the win, ipwitch is still struggling down the table while Chelsea have lost three point that would have helped them at least to gain a strong momentum as a potential title contender.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on January 01, 2025, 09:43:53 AM

In the Premier League match between Man United and Newcastle yesterday, Newcastle won the match by 2 goals. The performance of the players of Man United team was poor, due to which they could not score any goals in this match. They are at number 14 in the points table. If we look at the last 5 matches of Man United team, they have lost 4 matches out of 5 matches and won 1 match.

Manchester United position in the standings is very worrying, if they do not recover soon they could fall into the relegation zone. New Year is the right moment to recover, using the January transfer window to improve squad depth. In my opinion, Ruben Amorim cannot be blamed entirely for Manchester United series of poor results in the last five matches, because the players seem unable to carry out the strategy he has implemented. Ruben Amorim managerial quality will be at stake if The Red Devils continue to lose points, the hope of finishing in the European zone is now getting slimmer.

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Quote from: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on January 01, 2025, 09:43:53 AM

In the Premier League match between Man United and Newcastle yesterday, Newcastle won the match by 2 goals. The performance of the players of Man United team was poor, due to which they could not score any goals in this match. They are at number 14 in the points table. If we look at the last 5 matches of Man United team, they have lost 4 matches out of 5 matches and won 1 match.

in every week seems that their condition is getting worse , even I think Amorim who is expected to bring a lot of changes to Manchester United is still not able to improve their mentality and also their squad chances of winning a match, I don't know what happening with them at the moment even though they previously has bought a lot of players and fired ten hag but they still seem to be struggling to get up.
The defeat from Newcastle with a difference of 2 goals and poor performance in the last few matches has further immersed them in the bottom of the Premier League at the moment, still being ranked 14th in the Premier League has shown their poor ability to win, so if they do not immediately find a solution to turn things around, then they are likely to end the season in the relegation zone later.

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Quote from: Mayor of ogba on January 01, 2025, 03:41:00 AM

this win Manchester City had against Leicester City doesn't mean they are fully back to their winning ways because Leicester City is also struggling like Manchester City, and it would have been bad for Manchester City if they had failed to beat Leicester City. Just like you said, it is when Manchester City has had 2-3 consecutive wins in the Premier League that we will be certain they are back to their old ways, but for now let's watch and see how the story unfolds for Manchester City in the Premier League. If Pep Guardiola doesn't solve the current problem at Manchester City, I believe that even though he just signed a new contract with Manchester City, Manchester City management will have no choice but to part ways with him so that they can find a new coach who can lead the club to victory.

Therefore winning over Leicester City is not something that can be taken seriously, it means nothing because Man City has not been able to provide a guarantee after winning 3 points. Pep Guardiola will not be satisfied quickly, especially with the club situation in 6th position in the standings there is still a lot that they have to fix.

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In the Premier League match between Man United and Newcastle yesterday, Newcastle won the match by 2 goals. The performance of the players of Man United team was poor, due to which they could not score any goals in this match. They are at number 14 in the points table. If we look at the last 5 matches of Man United team, they have lost 4 matches out of 5 matches and won 1 match.

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Brentford are going through one of their poorest spells of the season and are suffering from the problems of a busy schedule. Brentford have a narrower rotation than other teams and have suffered three defeats and a draw in their last four games. However, even though Brentford haven't won in three weeks, they are a dangerous team at home against any opponent. Arsenal, on the other hand, have not lost in eight weeks. I think Brentford will struggle against Arsenal as they will be playing with a depleted squad.

Arsenal are not out of the race for the top but they are not playing as dominant football as Liverpool but they are on a good run. Brentford are an interesting team. They are by far the highest scorers at home in the Premier League. They play with a high scoring average. I think they will score against Arsenal as well, but Arsenal are the team closer to victory.

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Maresca must understand the culture of competition in the Premier League because if they make a small mistake then they will be punished by a much weaker team. Now Chelsea is in fourth place in the standings and two consecutive defeats against Fulham and Ipswich must be an important lesson for Chelsea, so that in the next match they do not make the same mistake again.

The Chelsea coach is new in the Premier League, so he made the mistake of looking down on Ipswich simply because that the bottom of the table. Old coaches with experience in the Premier League know that every game is important even though it is obvious that you are going to win it. Chelsea will regret that game, because they were considered title contenders, but a two-game losing streak really puts their position in a lot of doubt, maybe they will qualify for the champions league, but not win the league.

I think they'll his own view and anyway the teacher doesn't mind anyone if he is really against it then they should change him because if this coach does that then he can't teach them well in anger and Chesley's streak is also weakening. It's the fault of the Chelsea players and their coach because if one of them had been good they would never have lost the title, if they still played well they could have won but think about it. I have no hope because Chelsea used to play well but after that they are playing like normal teams who are weak.Chelsea should play well thinking what they will do with this game if they can't win in this league.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on January 01, 2025, 07:51:11 AM

I don't think I can say the game against Brentford will be an easy win because Arsenal have got the penchant for misbehaving and throwing away opportunities when it is very necessary now that their greatest fear which is Man City is not competing for the title but the top 4. Saka is not coming back from injury today or the next day and I feel the force or should I say the way Arsenal approach games when Saka was around is different because he's not available at the moment. This is another reason I feel Arsenal might throw this chance away and at the same time I want Arsenal to win something big this season, I just feel for how slow they played in their last game and I hope they've used last season to learn a lesson because it was this same time they started losing important game, are they going to continue to fall out of the title race when it matters?

Well, at this stage, I'm not confident that Arsenal will win any games without Saka, he has been the major player for the squad every season. However, Brentford has been a stubborn club since their promotion to the Premier League; Arsenal can win the match, but Saka's absence will have an impact on their performance. Many clubs who aren't equal to Arsenal have beaten Brentford this season; Arsenal should be able to win today because Brentford hasn't won in their past ten meetings across all competitions. Sterling is just a waste of money for the club. Arsenal have to play better without Saka since he cannot return anytime soon.

Furthermore, when it comes to championship contenders this season, Arsenal, in my opinion, has missed their best chance of winning the title. Arsenal cannot win the title this season when Liverpool's attackers are in great form. This is Arsenal's chance to win the Premier League championship, since Manchester City has become an embarrassment this season, but Arsenal has always disappointed, with players getting red cards in important games from the start of the season.

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Quote from: reagansimms on January 01, 2025, 08:18:13 AM

Luck has not been on Amorim side, since being appointed as head coach to replace Ten Hag, he has not been able to return Manchester United to their best form. Who knows how long it will take to turn his team around, but he will have to work extra hard because reviving Manchester United passion is not an easy job.

This is not about luck but the strength of his team which is not so good so it is much more difficult to get more positive results in the ongoing matches. So far, Manchester United have suffered six defeats since Amorim became coach and it feels difficult to perform better if there is still the same pattern and there are many Manchester United players who should not be Amorim's choice because they are unable to carry out their duties as instructed. Any efforts have been made but have not found the best point when implementing the strategy and there are many problems that he might face because most Manchester United players still look so selfish when playing.

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Quote from: slapper on January 01, 2025, 08:41:54 AM

Brentford's form is poor - no victories in five - but that high press is a headache. Arsenal could have the chance to take advantage of those areas behind here, but hey, Mbeumo isn't going to be simple. Why not we perhaps see a late substitution drama once more like last season when Havertz bagged the winner? No Saka, thus Trossard and Martinelli have to get noisy. It is always the same story. Do they step up or do they fade? That's the question. Arsenal has to be merciless; the table is too close to joke about. Brentford will grab if Ars show any weakness. massive game, massive pressure, massive points on line

Brentford recent games have not been good but their way of playing which is to put a lot of pressure on other team is still big problem for others. Arsenal can use empty spaces on field to their advantage but they need to be careful of Mbeumo speed and skill. Because Saka is not playing Trossard and Martinelli have to play really well. This is very important game for Arsenal and they can not make any mistakes. Brentford will take advantage of any mistakes Arsenal makes so Arsenal has to be very strong and take all their chances. Stakes are very high and this game could be very important moment in season.

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I doubt if Manchester United will be bouncd back to epic form this season, the new manager is trying so hard to build something tangible in Old Trafford. He needs the support and concerned about handling properly his managerial roles. He's going to be effective when the time finally comes.

Luck has not been on Amorim side, since being appointed as head coach to replace Ten Hag, he has not been able to return Manchester United to their best form. Who knows how long it will take to turn his team around, but he will have to work extra hard because reviving Manchester United passion is not an easy job.

The defeat to Newcastle added to his poor record since taking charge of Man United, They have now suffered their fourth consecutive defeat since last winning against Manchester City. Amorim must realize that his team is now closer to the relegation zone than the Champions League zone, he must immediately find a way to save his team from a series of bad results so that they can finish in a better position.

The only way to save Amorim career is to bring in many new players into the Man Utd squad because currently the existing players are unable to understand Amorim's desires, many of them do not fit into the scheme he is running.
Maybe we will see a little picture of the improvement of the Man Utd squad in January the transfer market is an opportunity for Amorim to prove his ability in my opinion in his first season Amorim could only bring Man Utd to the top 7 positions maybe that is a realistic achievement because if the target is a UCL ticket for next season, it is difficult to say that Man Utd has a big chance.

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Quote from: lizarder on January 01, 2025, 04:06:51 AM

In the Premier League or in any league, defeat is something that is avoided by big teams because it has the potential to repeat the next defeat in the next match and the problem is actually defeating a much weaker team because it will slightly disrupt the morale of the players. Ipswich is one of the weak teams and they are in a relegation position and should not make Chelsea lose three points when facing a team like this because in terms of quality they are far below Chelsea.

I also can't understand why Chelsea could lose to a team like Ipswich which I even assumed that Chelsea could win easily when facing the team in the Premier League. But in reality it was the opposite and the defeat experienced by Chelsea has also placed them in the top four because Nottingham Forest was still able to win in their 19th week match this season. And for the next match Chelsea must be able to win so that their position remains safe in the top four zone.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 01, 2025, 08:27:45 AM

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I don't think I can say the game against Brentford will be an easy win because Arsenal have got the penchant for misbehaving and throwing away opportunities when it is very necessary now that their greatest fear which is Man City is not competing for the title but the top 4. Saka is not coming back from injury today or the next day and I feel the force or should I say the way Arsenal approach games when Saka was around is different because he's not available at the moment. This is another reason I feel Arsenal might throw this chance away and at the same time I want Arsenal to win something big this season, I just feel for how slow they played in their last game and I hope they've used last season to learn a lesson because it was this same time they started losing important game, are they going to continue to fall out of the title race when it matters?

The truth about Brentford games always tough even when Saka is around, it’s not always an easy match for Arsenal despite they do win at the end the match. As for today’s match, since Saka is not playing, it’s going to be a tough game for Arsenal. However, I am expecting Arsenal to win because Brentford are not currently in form. Brentford have not been able to win any of their last five matches, so Arsenal may take advantage of this.

That said, I’m still not expecting it to be an easy match for Arsenal. One reason is that Brentford will be the host of the game today. Additionally, Arsenal know they cannot afford to mess up matches anymore, as the points gap between them and other teams is growing. Dropping more points could push them out of the Premier League title race and put immense pressure on them, especially with other top four teams being very close in the standings.

Brentford's form is poor - no victories in five - but that high press is a headache. Arsenal could have the chance to take advantage of those areas behind here, but hey, Mbeumo isn't going to be simple. Why not we perhaps see a late substitution drama once more like last season when Havertz bagged the winner? No Saka, thus Trossard and Martinelli have to get noisy. It is always the same story. Do they step up or do they fade? That's the question. Arsenal has to be merciless; the table is too close to joke about. Brentford will grab if Ars show any weakness. massive game, massive pressure, massive points on line

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on January 01, 2025, 07:51:11 AM

I don't think I can say the game against Brentford will be an easy win because Arsenal have got the penchant for misbehaving and throwing away opportunities when it is very necessary now that their greatest fear which is Man City is not competing for the title but the top 4. Saka is not coming back from injury today or the next day and I feel the force or should I say the way Arsenal approach games when Saka was around is different because he's not available at the moment. This is another reason I feel Arsenal might throw this chance away and at the same time I want Arsenal to win something big this season, I just feel for how slow they played in their last game and I hope they've used last season to learn a lesson because it was this same time they started losing important game, are they going to continue to fall out of the title race when it matters?

The truth about Brentford games always tough even when Saka is around, it’s not always an easy match for Arsenal despite they do win at the end the match. As for today’s match, since Saka is not playing, it’s going to be a tough game for Arsenal. However, I am expecting Arsenal to win because Brentford are not currently in form. Brentford have not been able to win any of their last five matches, so Arsenal may take advantage of this.

That said, I’m still not expecting it to be an easy match for Arsenal. One reason is that Brentford will be the host of the game today. Additionally, Arsenal know they cannot afford to mess up matches anymore, as the points gap between them and other teams is growing. Dropping more points could push them out of the Premier League title race and put immense pressure on them, especially with other top four teams being very close in the standings.

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indeed for the EPL title fight, currently Man united no longer has great hope because its standings are already in a ranking that is almost close to the relegation zone. and indeed at this time Man united can only surrender to fight to get out of the bottom of the standings. now Amorim has not been able to bring Man united to good and consistent changes is it possible to change coaches again? do Man united players have to be overhauled and updated a lot?

I think this team has enough quality players and actually I personally don't see that this team needs a major overhaul in their squad. Although some additional new players may be needed, major changes are not necessary. This team only needs a coach who can truly utilize every strength of the players on this team to the maximum. And in reality it seems like Amorim is still not able to make this team work optimally. I think there is still a lot of untapped potential in this team which should be homework for the coach. So I can say that the problem is with their coach.

But that doesn't mean the coach isn't good enough. It's just that each coach has a different adaptation time to the team they have just joined. There are those who can immediately show maximum results and there are also those who need quite a long time. We know that Arteta at Arsenal also experienced a bad season when he first came to Arsenal. So yeah, let's just assume that Amorim is also in the same position.

I may disagree with you slightly on your position that Manchester United team doesn't need a total overhauling because the fact of the matter is that Manchester United team is below average and coaches who has been coming has only been doing damage control in my opinion I can't pinpoint on at least three to four top world class players that are in United most of the players in United currently is there solely for the purpose of community chance if not they can't make it to the starting lineup in other teams

And I think what Amorin is about doing is to do a total overhauling of the team because that is the problem that he has with Rasford Amorin has told him to step up his game so the coaches who has been coming are good but the fact is the club lacks quality

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Quote from: Obari on January 01, 2025, 02:51:38 AM

I doubt if Manchester United will be bouncd back to epic form this season, the new manager is trying so hard to build something tangible in Old Trafford. He needs the support and concerned about handling properly his managerial roles. He's going to be effective when the time finally comes.

Luck has not been on Amorim side, since being appointed as head coach to replace Ten Hag, he has not been able to return Manchester United to their best form. Who knows how long it will take to turn his team around, but he will have to work extra hard because reviving Manchester United passion is not an easy job.

The defeat to Newcastle added to his poor record since taking charge of Man United, They have now suffered their fourth consecutive defeat since last winning against Manchester City. Amorim must realize that his team is now closer to the relegation zone than the Champions League zone, he must immediately find a way to save his team from a series of bad results so that they can finish in a better position.

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Now let's look at the facts, the picture I attached will explain everything whether Man United managed to get full points in most of their matches or vice versa. The results achieved by Man United in their last six games have really disappointed the management and fans because they have lost 15 points during that period.
The defeat to Newcastle made Man United experience 4 consecutive defeats in two different competitions, I am very pessimistic that Amorim will be able to bring Man United to qualify for European competition next season because his performance has not shown any signs of improvement.

Right now they're not even trying to qualify for any of these European competitions but they're fighting to avoid relegation. They have bunch of professionals who have found it difficult to execute the project of the manager. If you go back to what's said when he came in, he'll tell he had it worse with Sporting Lisbon than it is with Man United and that they'll face loses like this. Only the impatient and over expectant would be disappointed as a Manchester united fan. The next two games this year are also tough one against Liverpool and Arsenal. I see them losing 6 points. Be there!

The loss against Newcastle made it the first time after decades that Manchester united gets to suffer four consecutive premier league losses in a row, seeing that game, i could say that they weren't deserving of any goal in the first half of the game going by their performance that game, they did had a very poor possession and aswell were really poor with their delivery, they had Newcastle playing as if the Manchester united team were incomplete and Newcastle were much more than them, I'm seeing it like Manchester united will be focused on trying to not be relegated this season and probably the best they could get will be the conference cup, one that hasn't happen in years now.

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