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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on September 11, 2024, 01:45:22 PM

I admit that Manchester United has probably lost the identity of its big name in the past. They were the reigning team in their time with title dominance, but now the Manchester City team has taken over the dominance. In the end, Manchester City's dominance will probably end the same as what Manchester United is experiencing now, of course if Pep Guardiola retires from the coaching bench.

It is very difficult to get the same good performance from Manchester United as before, but some coaches with a good strategic approach can lift their spirits. So far Ten Hag is not the one who can make Manchester United really recover, of course because we can see that his performance at Manchester United is very inconsistent. Firing Ten Hag is one solution, but it doesn't mean the problem is solved.

It doesn't take a lot to see the massive difference between the Manchester United from today and the one from around the 2000s to 2010. Today they have ten Hag and back then they had Alex Ferguson. Just look when Alex Ferguson stopped his career (2013) and when they won their last Premier League title (2013). They have never managed to successfully fill the gap that Ferguson left behind. Manchester United used to be the biggest club in the world, at least on the same level as Real Madrid for a while. But it seems to be over, which is hard to believe by the way as it is not a lack of financial resources, but of managerial competency. Ten Hag is the wrong guy and all the other coaches they had were never really able to take it to Ferguson's level. And now they are at a point where they are not even respected as a title contender in the Premier League anymore.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 11, 2024, 10:57:40 AM

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Working with a new coach, I think it's a very good start that Arne Slot can show with Liverpool. They can sweep all the matches that have been played in the Premier League. This is like answering our questions before the season started about Liverpool's game under the direction of their new coach. But what is still a question is whether they will be consistent enough or not with what they showed in the first 3 matches
Their competition with Manchester City is not easy, in the last few seasons they have always had difficulty competing. The problem is that they always slip towards the end of the season which ultimately makes them fail to win the title from Manchester City in the last 4 seasons. This season they must be able to show that they can do it even with a new coach.

Winning the title in his first season would be incredibly difficult, especially as he didn’t spend much money, real peanuts compared to what Arteta and Guardiola have spent building their squads.

I don’t want to get disappointed so whilst it’s been a promising start, I think just to compete for the title would be a good debut season for Slot. If we finish in the CL qualifying positions via the league and have a good run in this seasons CL I would be satisfied.

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Quote from: Texac on September 11, 2024, 05:35:51 AM

Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. Still the squad is not strong enough. At the same time, as strong as the squad is, their performance is even weaker.

Manchester United have spent big on Antony and Hojlund in recent years. Antony probably cost Manchester United 96 million. And the club probably spent 75 million on Hojlund. But we don't see good performance from these two players. I don't know why Manchester United management spent 96 million for Antony. If Manchester United management had been a little more careful with their spending, they might have built a stronger squad.

Ten Hag could keep on spending more, he could spend a billion more dollars, he is just not a good coach and he will keep being a bad coach. Just because he is spending money doesn't mean that he is going to win, it is not working like that and it is not going to give them anything good at all. I personally believe that the best thing to do right now would be just making sure that they are firing the manager. If they can get rid of Erik Ten Hag then they could do fine.

This isn't based on this years results by the way, I am not saying it because of just three games, I am not someone that makes decisions that quickly, this is based on last season as entirely. Sure they may have ended the season with FA cup, but aside from literally just a single game, every other game that they had was terrible and I believe that they were managed poorly, both on league and ucl as evident from the results itself. This is why I believe that he should be fired without waiting any longer.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 11, 2024, 10:57:40 AM

Working with a new coach, I think it's a very good start that Arne Slot can show with Liverpool. They can sweep all the matches that have been played in the Premier League. This is like answering our questions before the season started about Liverpool's game under the direction of their new coach. But what is still a question is whether they will be consistent enough or not with what they showed in the first 3 matches
Their competition with Manchester City is not easy, in the last few seasons they have always had difficulty competing. The problem is that they always slip towards the end of the season which ultimately makes them fail to win the title from Manchester City in the last 4 seasons. This season they must be able to show that they can do it even with a new coach.

Consistency has been the challenge for most teams, player's and even coaches, most of them do not have challenges with a good start at some point, they even get very brilliant starts in some cases but a long the line they probably fail to keep up with such and thst gets their record for that season messy, if only these people can be able to maintain some level of consistency in all of these then very likely they will always beat expectations, with slot he's got a very good start and interestingly it's across all the games he has seen Liverpool played since he resumed as the head coach. Let's hope he leads Liverpool Never to walk alone and probably stop city from maintaining their status as the league title holders if Arteta fails to.

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Maybe nothing will change in the next transfer market, it's just a matter of management and tactics that Erik Ten Hag has and the players used to be a little selfish, so it's difficult to bring Man United to a better way like before.

Perhaps Man United should fire Erik Ten Hag to see a change in this team? It is unlikely that we will see Erik Ten Hag retained despite his many defeats.
I just see that Man United have lost their fangs now.

I admit that Manchester United has probably lost the identity of its big name in the past. They were the reigning team in their time with title dominance, but now the Manchester City team has taken over the dominance. In the end, Manchester City's dominance will probably end the same as what Manchester United is experiencing now, of course if Pep Guardiola retires from the coaching bench.

It is very difficult to get the same good performance from Manchester United as before, but some coaches with a good strategic approach can lift their spirits. So far Ten Hag is not the one who can make Manchester United really recover, of course because we can see that his performance at Manchester United is very inconsistent. Firing Ten Hag is one solution, but it doesn't mean the problem is solved.

Yups as we know Man United has started to decline since a few seasons, this is because of poor management, then there is news that they have experienced a profit loss for the 2023/24 season of 110 million euros more, meaning that indeed with the purchase of their players it does not benefit the club.

Indeed, firing the coach is not a solution but we will see Man United playing stuck there is no change if it is still handled by coach Ten Hag, by looking for a new coach of course there is still a little hope of change, but it all depends on the club whether to fire or not.

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Quote from: Jegileman on September 11, 2024, 01:29:50 PM

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With the present stats, Liverpool is pulling alright, they are giving this season their best. But Man City has won four consecutive seasons now, and I'm not sure they would want someone else to take the cup from them, nobody likes to be dethroned.

Liverpool have also started well just like Manchester City who are the defending champions of the premier league. They’ve also started the season on a good course and I fear they may also win the premier league title this season again. Pep Guardiola have proven to be the best manager again and again, no coach has been able to stop him. This season is already looking fruitful for him again, maybe he might still win it except one of the clubs that have high competency can stop him.

Liverpool and Man City are currently starting the season with full points, both teams are doing well so far and of course Liverpool will be a serious challenger for Man City. Man City as the defending champions, there is no doubt about their squad under Pep Guardiola, they have proven that they can go through a lot of pressure but they can remain consistent.

However, so far Slot's tactics are also good, and also fit Liverpool's playing style. But the question is how Slot can maintain the consistency of his rules later in the league that lasts a very long time. Not to mention there are UCL, FA, and Carabao. So it must be a tough challenge for Slot, because Liverpool since the Klopp era has always been good in terms of tactics and playing style, but has always been left behind when a core player is injured, because they don't have a suitable replacement.

It is very natural that at the beginning of the season Liverpool continues to win, because they are still fresh and fit, and their tactics have not been widely read by their opponents. So it is interesting to wait and see how Liverpool will play later against Man City, in my opinion the winner of this match has the potential to become the EPL champion.

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Maybe nothing will change in the next transfer market, it's just a matter of management and tactics that Erik Ten Hag has and the players used to be a little selfish, so it's difficult to bring Man United to a better way like before.

Perhaps Man United should fire Erik Ten Hag to see a change in this team? It is unlikely that we will see Erik Ten Hag retained despite his many defeats.
I just see that Man United have lost their fangs now.

I admit that Manchester United has probably lost the identity of its big name in the past. They were the reigning team in their time with title dominance, but now the Manchester City team has taken over the dominance. In the end, Manchester City's dominance will probably end the same as what Manchester United is experiencing now, of course if Pep Guardiola retires from the coaching bench.

It is very difficult to get the same good performance from Manchester United as before, but some coaches with a good strategic approach can lift their spirits. So far Ten Hag is not the one who can make Manchester United really recover, of course because we can see that his performance at Manchester United is very inconsistent. Firing Ten Hag is one solution, but it doesn't mean the problem is solved.

As the saying goes that every triumph must have a setback, and every setback must have a resurrection, the world spins like a wheel sometimes above and sometimes below, that's what Manchester United are experiencing at the moment, they are experiencing a decline after they had a long enough triumph in the past, and their current rival Manchester City is in its heyday with its best performance.

Many of us are saying that it is likely that if Ten Hag is removed from his chair whether Manchester United's performance can bounce back, but that's not necessarily, because we don't know who will replace him if he is removed, whether he will be much better or much worse than Ten Hag now, but the risk needs to be taken for a renewal to try to be better, Ten Hag is not one of the problems that must be solved at Manchester United.

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Quote from: Texac on September 11, 2024, 01:04:46 PM

Manchester United have offered Ten Hag two full seasons to strengthen the squad. Manchester United management has provided adequate funds in addition to providing adequate opportunities. But even then Ten Hag could not improve the team's performance. Although he made several big transfers, Manchester United did not benefit from it.

Manchester United will not transform into a strong team until their coach is experienced. Manchester United must find an experienced coach. If the coach is not experienced, even if Manchester United spends more money on players, United's performance will not improve. I can't find any solution other than changing the coach.

Manchester United lacked an experienced manager, and Ten Hags has been not able to improve its results in the Premier League for the past two seasons, Ten Hag has been using a single strategy to build the team, and some managers may not have plenty of experience in their previous clubs, but if they manage a big club, they may achieve a good result and have more experience than the previous club. Ten Hag's goal in season three is to finish among the top four teams, not to win the league, Arne Slot, a new Liverpool player, wants to win the league title on his debut, and not just finish among the top four.

There won't be any positive outcomes from Manchester United performance this season because Ten Hag has won the FA Cup and Carabao Cup, at this point he shouldn't be a manager who can say that his goal is to finish among the top four, instead, he wants to compete for the league title and not just finish among the top four teams, Ten Hag has been on the team for more than two seasons and I believe the management is backing him, perhaps he will win another trophy this season.

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Quote from: bering on September 11, 2024, 01:26:56 PM

I am still waiting Federico Chiesa debut match with Liverpool because since bought from Juventus until now Arne Slot still didn't putting Federico Chiesa into Liverpool squad even when Liverpool win from Manchester United few weeks ago Federico Chiesa only watching Liverpool from the bench and the latest news i have heard is Federico Chiesa still training with Liverpool U-21 to restore his fitness condition and actually i still worried about his injured history so hopefully he will be in the good fitness during this season because Liverpool schedules is very tight so Liverpool will needed all of their current players however i still expect Federico Chiesa will be available when Liverpool playing against Nottingham Forest this weekend

Well the anticipation is everywhere, I also can’t wait to see this man play in this current Liverpool team. I don’t think he will find it hard to cope in the premier league, he have a lot of good players around him and a good coach too who encourages attacking football, so definitely it Federico Chiesa style of play. He is a player who loves to attack so much, he loves his solo runs and try to go pass defenders too, above all he is a player who have a very good eye on goal.

I think it a good thing they taking their time to check on his fitness level and all because Cheisa is an injury prone player, so players like this you take your time to use them and you can rush them because they might get injured again. This weekend I feel Chiesa will make his debut even if it just for a few minutes.

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Maybe nothing will change in the next transfer market, it's just a matter of management and tactics that Erik Ten Hag has and the players used to be a little selfish, so it's difficult to bring Man United to a better way like before.

Perhaps Man United should fire Erik Ten Hag to see a change in this team? It is unlikely that we will see Erik Ten Hag retained despite his many defeats.
I just see that Man United have lost their fangs now.

I admit that Manchester United has probably lost the identity of its big name in the past. They were the reigning team in their time with title dominance, but now the Manchester City team has taken over the dominance. In the end, Manchester City's dominance will probably end the same as what Manchester United is experiencing now, of course if Pep Guardiola retires from the coaching bench.

It is very difficult to get the same good performance from Manchester United as before, but some coaches with a good strategic approach can lift their spirits. So far Ten Hag is not the one who can make Manchester United really recover, of course because we can see that his performance at Manchester United is very inconsistent. Firing Ten Hag is one solution, but it doesn't mean the problem is solved.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on September 11, 2024, 01:28:44 PM

Maybe nothing will change in the next transfer market, it's just a matter of management and tactics that Erik Ten Hag has and the players used to be a little selfish, so it's difficult to bring Man United to a better way like before.

Perhaps Man United should fire Erik Ten Hag to see a change in this team? It is unlikely that we will see Erik Ten Hag retained despite his many defeats.
I just see that Man United have lost their fangs now.

It will be a disgrace to Manchester United if they don't change him, I was impressed with his first season, it was a fair one as a starter but at this point, there should be an improvement in the way he is managing the team right now but the way he is managing that club, if the owner of that club is serious, then I believe he is in a tick time bomb. There are other qualified coaches that are sitting on the bench waiting for his replacement and do a better job.

Liverpool has changed Klopp and heaven did not fall and right now, they are having good season. There is nothing like they are going to win the Premier League yet but they are far better than some teams that are acting as if they don't have anything to offer. I just pray they don't fallout on the Europa conference League, they will receive insult and banter from their fans and rival teams.

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Quote from: Coyster on September 11, 2024, 08:51:56 AM

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I expect Manchester United will suffer many losses and draw till the next transfer window opened.

What's the next transfer window going to change, Manchester United have spent quite a large amount of money in the last couple of years, with no real results to show for it in the EPL, yes they have won the Carabao and Fa Cup in the last two seasons, but they have been very poor in both the EPL and the CL. I can't really say for sure what the problem is with United and even if they recruit more players in January, it'd still be the same story sadly.

The FA Cup and the Carabao cup they’ve won for the past two season’s is what has given their manager the privilege to still be the head coach of the team, if not he’ll by now sacked and looking for another team to manage. Manchester United have been so lenient with him and if he doesn’t do better this season than he has done in the past two seasons, he may be relieved of his job. Every club wants to aim higher and not just competing for the domestic league cups if they want to be better and earn good records.

Quote from: Yucky on September 11, 2024, 09:37:33 AM

With the present stats, Liverpool is pulling alright, they are giving this season their best. But Man City has won four consecutive seasons now, and I'm not sure they would want someone else to take the cup from them, nobody likes to be dethroned.

Liverpool have also started well just like Manchester City who are the defending champions of the premier league. They’ve also started the season on a good course and I fear they may also win the premier league title this season again. Pep Guardiola have proven to be the best manager again and again, no coach has been able to stop him. This season is already looking fruitful for him again, maybe he might still win it except one of the clubs that have high competency can stop him.

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Quote from: Coyster on September 11, 2024, 08:51:56 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on September 11, 2024, 05:30:32 AM

I expect Manchester United will suffer many losses and draw till the next transfer window opened.

What's the next transfer window going to change, Manchester United have spent quite a large amount of money in the last couple of years, with no real results to show for it in the EPL, yes they have won the Carabao and Fa Cup in the last two seasons, but they have been very poor in both the EPL and the CL. I can't really say for sure what the problem is with United and even if they recruit more players in January, it'd still be the same story sadly.

Maybe nothing will change in the next transfer market, it's just a matter of management and tactics that Erik Ten Hag has and the players used to be a little selfish, so it's difficult to bring Man United to a better way like before.

Perhaps Man United should fire Erik Ten Hag to see a change in this team? It is unlikely that we will see Erik Ten Hag retained despite his many defeats.
I just see that Man United have lost their fangs now.

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I am still waiting Federico Chiesa debut match with Liverpool because since bought from Juventus until now Arne Slot still didn't putting Federico Chiesa into Liverpool squad even when Liverpool win from Manchester United few weeks ago Federico Chiesa only watching Liverpool from the bench and the latest news i have heard is Federico Chiesa still training with Liverpool U-21 to restore his fitness condition and actually i still worried about his injured history so hopefully he will be in the good fitness during this season because Liverpool schedules is very tight so Liverpool will needed all of their current players however i still expect Federico Chiesa will be available when Liverpool playing against Nottingham Forest this weekend

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 11, 2024, 05:30:32 AM

I expect Manchester United will suffer many losses and draw till the next transfer window opened.

Ten Hag has spent €600,000,000 on players in less than 3 years. It doesn’t matter who he buys if the team isn’t coached properly.

Man Utd have been crap since Ferguson left. Numerous managers have also spent a lot and failed there. Success starts on the training pitch not in the transfer window.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 11, 2024, 05:55:53 AM

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Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. Still the squad is not strong enough. At the same time, as strong as the squad is, their performance is even weaker.

I forget how many coaches have Man United changed since Ferguson? There have been no strong team fundamentals built until this Ten Hag era. Ragnick once said Man United must carry out a major operation by taking advantage of the transfer market. Ten Hag's time has been done, but the transfer made is not effective. The transfer made by Man United is also in accordance with Ten Hag's wishes. Maybe the next step is to change the coach. LOL.

Since the Ferguson era, until now there has been no coach who has been able to lift the soul of the Red Devils who have been sleeping for too long. In the current ten hag era he can only waste money last season he failed and now given a chance but the aroma of MU's failure has been smelled even though it cannot be denied that this is still early, still if referring to the bad early season matches indicate all that. It is very clear that management must immediately find a new coach in order to maintain the great name of Manchester United as an elite club.

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Quote from: Yucky on September 11, 2024, 09:37:33 AM

With the present stats, Liverpool is pulling alright, they are giving this season their best. But Man City has won four consecutive seasons now, and I'm not sure they would want someone else to take the cup from them, nobody likes to be dethroned.

Also, Man City still have the potentials, and with what have been played, and the bar they've raised, I don't think any team is ready or prepared to challenge them because they'll also be training relentlessly.

Liverpool is the third candidate after Man City and Arsenal who have the potential to lift the Premier League trophy. Actually there is nothing lacking in the current Liverpool squad, in the hands of Arne Slot everything seems fine and much more mature in facing the new season. This is reinforced by the optimism of Liverpool legend Michael Owen, the suitability of players with Arne Slot playing vision is the only key that can challenge the defending champion Man City. Nottingham Forest will visit Anfield Headquarters, so it will make Liverpool enjoy the next match with a landslide victory of 3 points.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 11, 2024, 05:55:53 AM

Quote from: Texac on September 11, 2024, 05:35:51 AM

Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. Still the squad is not strong enough. At the same time, as strong as the squad is, their performance is even weaker.

I forget how many coaches have Man United changed since Ferguson? There have been no strong team fundamentals built until this Ten Hag era. Ragnick once said Man United must carry out a major operation by taking advantage of the transfer market. Ten Hag's time has been done, but the transfer made is not effective. The transfer made by Man United is also in accordance with Ten Hag's wishes. Maybe the next step is to change the coach. LOL.

Manchester United have offered Ten Hag two full seasons to strengthen the squad. Manchester United management has provided adequate funds in addition to providing adequate opportunities. But even then Ten Hag could not improve the team's performance. Although he made several big transfers, Manchester United did not benefit from it.

Manchester United will not transform into a strong team until their coach is experienced. Manchester United must find an experienced coach. If the coach is not experienced, even if Manchester United spends more money on players, United's performance will not improve. I can't find any solution other than changing the coach.

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Quote from: Coyster on September 11, 2024, 08:51:56 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on September 11, 2024, 05:30:32 AM

I expect Manchester United will suffer many losses and draw till the next transfer window opened.

What's the next transfer window going to change, Manchester United have spent quite a large amount of money in the last couple of years, with no real results to show for it in the EPL, yes they have won the Carabao and Fa Cup in the last two seasons, but they have been very poor in both the EPL and the CL. I can't really say for sure what the problem is with United and even if they recruit more players in January, it'd still be the same story sadly.

Just as coyster has said, I do not expect any special thing from Manchester United even if another window is open specially for them. Last season will blamed Manchester United poor performance on injury of players and general unavailability of players. But this season, Manchester United actually had the opportunity to start afresh. They made some signings and also made some sellings but there is no impression of the new players in the team. This means that it takes more than new signings to right the wrongs of Manchester United. I am beginning to believe that the problem of Manchester United is majorly on the coach. Most times Eric ten hang will appear clueless to me.
His ability to select his starting lineup;
His ability to make decent changes; and
His ability to manage big players are all in doubt.

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Currently, he is the most important player in Arsenal. Odegard is the bridge between the midfielders and the attackers. A perfect midfielder in the squad. If only they knew level of damage they has done to the Arsenal squad. Arteta will be grieving in pain by now. However, if I am in Arteta's position to fix a replacement for Odegard, I would prefer Trossard to fit in that position. The reason is because he is a very adaptable player, he controls both his right foot and his left foot. Someone in that position can possibly do what Odegard has been doing in the squad. Then Arteta should push Timber a little forward to fill in Declan Rice's space. And lastly Thomas Partey will hold firmly the midfield.

Trossard is not a player who can consistently play as a midfielder, he tends to play on the wing or as a center forward. It could also be that if Arteta applies another pattern, Trossard can be placed as a second striker. I'm not sure which player will replace Odegard's role, but at least Arsenal has several players who can be played temporarily to replace Odegard's role. We have seen when Trossard played as a midfielder, unfortunately his performance was less efficient in helping the front line. On the contrary, this is an opportunity for Kai Havertz, who admitted that he really enjoyed the role by being able to move freely. Well, Timber is a defender who has the type as you said. It's just that he has just made adjustments due to his long injury. Regarding Partey, of course Arteta will play him. Because, his role will be very much needed in the team. By the way, it seems that there has been a change in the odds provided by the bookies. Even so, Arsenal is still slightly more favored.

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