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Quote from: Strongkored on October 12, 2019, 12:17:34 AM

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Over the past six years Manchester united has appointed managers, some of which have won already at other clubs; Jose Mourinho, Luis Van Gaal. And they failed to build any real momentum, some trophies were won, but the standard of football did not reach the standard expected of United. In addition to a change in technical management, the club also needs a revamp in the board of directors.

This is strange enough to happen at Man United, some some of the managers they chose succeeded at the club before but not at Man United, even a Mounrinho who is predicted to lift back the glory of Man United only lasted for while indeed already gave three thropies but not the EPL and the Champions League.
It could be that their main problem is in their board of directors not in the players or in the maager they chose.

Tomorrow Man United will play at home against Liverpool, everything can still happen. Their last 6 meetings Liverpool have never beaten Man United, Liverpool best result was a draw, but it could be that tomorrow the results of 2014 occur where Liverpool are able to defeat Man United 3-0.

I believe Mourinho would have been able to achieve more at the club had the players not turned on him in the end. With the success of Alex Ferguson there is an enormous amount of pressure on any manager who is chosen to lead the club. At the moment the fans and the board are not really asking much of the manager or players but a return to Champions League football and I believe that is a reasonable request.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on October 11, 2019, 02:54:13 PM

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Any injury from the international break could always causing the odds up and down , I'll just grab these good odds while it last!
Also a draw @3.85 seems good though, I'll just consider this.

I'm on the bet of either win or draw for Liverpool, Man Utd cannot defeat the present Liverpool squad, I'm expecting Liverpool to trash them because Man Utd goals has been like a binary number 101101 they've not scored up to 2 goals in a match, ever since they defeated Chelsea by four goals to nil

Honestly now... I feel uncomfortable to bet for liverpool to win .. it seems everybody all over the world do placing bet for liverpool to win over confidently, this type match is the one that I always avoid to bet especially to risking huge amount of money, this could be a trap despite how perfect liverpool start the season at the league.

I'll just looking into it till the game kicked off. See how they playing and make a live betting then. I'm sure at some point Manchester United would make a comeback from a streak bad performance, a fascinating odds for a home side or an easy money for the away side money line? I am now completely lost with this new idea that just come up in my head.

This kind good odds too good too pass by. Damn a lot of contradiction thoughts inside my brain.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on October 11, 2019, 09:18:03 AM

Over the past six years Manchester united has appointed managers, some of which have won already at other clubs; Jose Mourinho, Luis Van Gaal. And they failed to build any real momentum, some trophies were won, but the standard of football did not reach the standard expected of United. In addition to a change in technical management, the club also needs a revamp in the board of directors.

This is strange enough to happen at Man United, some of the managers they chose succeeded at the club before but not at Man United, even a Mounrinho who is predicted to lift back the glory of Man United only lasted for while indeed already gave three thropies but not the EPL and the Champions League.
It could be that their main problem is in their board of directors not in the players or in the maager they chose.

Oct 20 Man United will play at home against Liverpool, everything can still happen. Their last 6 meetings Liverpool have never beaten Man United, Liverpool best result was a draw, but it could be that Oct 20 the results of 2014 occur where Liverpool are able to defeat Man United 3-0.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on October 11, 2019, 02:54:13 PM

I'm expecting Liverpool to trash them because Man Utd goals has been like a binary number 101101 they've not scored up to 2 goals in a match, ever since they defeated Chelsea by four goals to nil

United vs Chelsea is an outlier, and I think Chelsea played really aggressive so they're vulnerable to counter-attack. If they sit deep and aim for a counter, I doubt United could win. You can see how United play against other teams outside of the big 6, most of the time failed to create meaningful chances or lose to counter or beautifully planned attacking football.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 11, 2019, 03:23:57 AM

Any injury from the international break could always causing the odds up and down , I'll just grab these good odds while it last!
Also a draw @3.85 seems good though, I'll just consider this.

I'm on the bet of either win or draw for Liverpool, Man Utd cannot defeat the present Liverpool squad, I'm expecting Liverpool to trash them because Man Utd goals has been like a binary number 101101 they've not scored up to 2 goals in a match, ever since they defeated Chelsea by four goals to nil

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 11, 2019, 12:10:49 PM

I think that they should reform the whole team. Sell the current squad and bring more passionate players who love the club. Not those who care only about money.

Looking at the current team, there have been lots of changes on the pitch over the past three seasons. Maybe not a thorough over haul, but a huge percentage of the current squad we're not here couple of seasons ago, and quite a number of players have been sold already. We can't put all the blame on the players lack of commitment, as we can see Lukaku and Sanchez showing glimpses of magic in some other club.
I've always said, maybe the management needs to be changed.

Right now they have some internal problems so better they sit and talk about this may be they have some better solutions instead of changing coaches if they able then surely they need to change all because its matter of prectiage of a great club its they are not going to solve this in near future then its going to be more horrible and any worst thing can happen.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 11, 2019, 12:10:49 PM

I think that they should reform the whole team. Sell the current squad and bring more passionate players who love the club. Not those who care only about money.

Looking at the current team, there have been lots of changes on the pitch over the past three seasons. Maybe not a thorough over haul, but a huge percentage of the current squad we're not here couple of seasons ago, and quite a number of players have been sold already. We can't put all the blame on the players lack of commitment, as we can see Lukaku and Sanchez showing glimpses of magic in some other club.
I've always said, maybe the management needs to be changed.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 11, 2019, 12:10:49 PM

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I agree with you. Actually we do not know the problems that occur from within Manchester United. What I do know is that their coaches must be replaced (because I look from the outside).

Over the past six years Manchester united has appointed managers, some of which have won already at other clubs; Jose Mourinho, Luis Van Gaal. And they failed to build any real momentum, some trophies were won, but the standard of football did not reach the standard expected of United. In addition to a change in technical management, the club also needs a revamp in the board of directors.

That's why the board decided to hire Ole Gunnar.
Because they didn't see any positive results from better coaches such as Mourinho and Van Gaal.
I think that they should reform the whole team. Sell the current squad and bring more passionate players who love the club. Not those who care only about money.

There is no way it will be done in the near future at least until the middle of the season what can be done now is to find out what the weak points are in the striker or defense

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on October 11, 2019, 09:18:03 AM

Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 11, 2019, 07:16:01 AM

I agree with you. Actually we do not know the problems that occur from within Manchester United. What I do know is that their coaches must be replaced (because I look from the outside).

Over the past six years Manchester united has appointed managers, some of which have won already at other clubs; Jose Mourinho, Luis Van Gaal. And they failed to build any real momentum, some trophies were won, but the standard of football did not reach the standard expected of United. In addition to a change in technical management, the club also needs a revamp in the board of directors.

That's why the board decided to hire Ole Gunnar.
Because they didn't see any positive results from better coaches such as Mourinho and Van Gaal.
I think that they should reform the whole team. Sell the current squad and bring more passionate players who love the club. Not those who care only about money.

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International breaks are dog shit, however I will probably watch my teams players on some kind of highlights reel & pray for no injuries. The internationals, especially the friendlies are so annoying.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 10, 2019, 11:44:20 AM

But what if they lost points again? (Which I believe it is the most possible to happen).

Are you talking about Liverpool? Come on man! We have been through this last year. Please we do not make the same mistake this year too. I hope we win the title.

Quote from: Coyster on October 10, 2019, 10:07:39 PM

Definitely they are going to drop points, buts whether they'll do that on purpose, I do not think it's possible. This players are professionals who are paid an insane amount of money every week, there is no way they'll come out to the pitch and play to lose.

I do not think any of the Liverpool player had any issue with integrity. They love the club and when they get chance they give all.

Quote from: EdenHazard on October 11, 2019, 03:23:57 AM

9 days to go till the manchester united vs liverpool clash ... and for now I can see the bookies is giving away odds for liverpool moneyline to win against the relegation candidate @1.77 Grin

, it should be an easy money considering how Manchester United are on the worst form so far , I feel bad for them.

Any injury from the international break could always causing the odds up and down , I'll just grab these good odds while it last!
Also a draw @3.85 seems good though, I'll just consider this.

Well bookies will have their bait to trap the clients but I do not see anything will go against Liverpool unless we have any injury problem with the main squad.
I really hope this international matches do not harm the players fitness.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 11, 2019, 07:05:11 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on October 11, 2019, 03:23:57 AM

Any injury from the international break could always causing the odds up and down , I'll just grab these good odds while it last!
Also a draw @3.85 seems good though, I'll just consider this.

Don't be too sure. Despite the fact that Manchester United haven't been at the top of their game this season doesn't mean you should write them off. Right from the onset, Liverpool vs Manchester United fixture has always been a tough one. Hard to predict the winner. Even though Man Utd are struggling against smaller teams, they might man up and draw Liverpool - Even win at old Trafford. I'm a Liverpool fan and this fixture is a major hurdle for us at the moment.

Na ah ... they have nothing now, no fighting spirit.. no players with good attitude.. no confidence.. just nothing, they're fucked up just like Chelsea in 2015–2016 .. they were at the worst season having a bad start and ended the season on 10th just like Manchester United now , the difference is that United fighting to avoid relegation Grin

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I'm pretty sure there is no chance for Manchester United to win this game especially with the current liverpool form 8/8 WIN ! Not even with 10 man liverpool on the pitch.

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Quote from: Red_Evil on October 11, 2019, 07:59:03 AM

I already told you, the problem is the owners " the Glazer's Family". you can see the atmosphere in Old Trafford is no longer the same as "Theatre of Dreams". most of their supporters are against glazers who only make MU a field of money without bringing achievements for MU. instead, I see Manchester United away supporters are more powerful and the chant is sounded louder than the chant when they playing at home

"the Glazers Family " has been around since the SAF era, and the SAF proved that their influence
was nothing and they can produce a lot of trophies.
the decline man united performance is purely due to lazy players and poor coaches. IMO

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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 11, 2019, 07:16:01 AM

I agree with you. Actually we do not know the problems that occur from within Manchester United. What I do know is that their coaches must be replaced (because I look from the outside).

Over the past six years Manchester united has appointed managers, some of which have won already at other clubs; Jose Mourinho, Luis Van Gaal. And they failed to build any real momentum, some trophies were won, but the standard of football did not reach the standard expected of United. In addition to a change in technical management, the club also needs a revamp in the board of directors.

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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 11, 2019, 07:16:01 AM

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Frankly, I don't believe on the conspiracy here that players aren't playing well on purpose as they are against Solksjaer. Anyway, Man U needs to man it up if they want to stay relevant in this season.

It's not a conspiracy, you can see how they played before United appointed Solksjaer as the manager and after that, there's clearly a huge difference. He has the same players, and in fact, new signings that mean he could do better if the players are playing as good as they were in the matches before.

To be sure Manchester United under the guidance of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not contribute much. And that really has an impact now. We see with the current condition, Manchester United needs improvement. Especially for coaching positions, because in my opinion Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can't do much anymore.

In my opinion, if Manchester United just change their coach, I don't think it will make a good change for United. not only the coach must be replaced, the management and the players must also be evaluated. at this time the Glazer's family only cared about the money and gave full responsibility to Ed Woodward who had no idea about football

I agree with you. Actually we do not know the problems that occur from within Manchester United. What I do know is that their coaches must be replaced (because I look from the outside). And for problems from within (management) or evaluation of the players also do not know. Because so far I see Manchester United players can still be said to be good and potential. And somehow I am always focused on OLE which makes Manchester United seem helpless now. I hope for the best only to man united going forward.

I already told you, the problem is the owners " the Glazer's Family". you can see the atmosphere in Old Trafford is no longer the same as "Theatre of Dreams". most of their supporters are against glazers who only make MU a field of money without bringing achievements for MU. instead, I see Manchester United away supporters are more powerful and the chant is sounded louder than the chant when they playing at home

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Quote from: Red_Evil on October 11, 2019, 07:10:12 AM

Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 11, 2019, 06:06:14 AM

Quote from: elda34b on October 11, 2019, 05:28:12 AM

Quote from: DaveWave on October 11, 2019, 04:17:27 AM

Frankly, I don't believe on the conspiracy here that players aren't playing well on purpose as they are against Solksjaer. Anyway, Man U needs to man it up if they want to stay relevant in this season.

It's not a conspiracy, you can see how they played before United appointed Solksjaer as the manager and after that, there's clearly a huge difference. He has the same players, and in fact, new signings that mean he could do better if the players are playing as good as they were in the matches before.

To be sure Manchester United under the guidance of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not contribute much. And that really has an impact now. We see with the current condition, Manchester United needs improvement. Especially for coaching positions, because in my opinion Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can't do much anymore.

In my opinion, if Manchester United just change their coach, I don't think it will make a good change for United. not only the coach must be replaced, the management and the players must also be evaluated. at this time the Glazer's family only cared about the money and gave full responsibility to Ed Woodward who had no idea about football

I agree with you. Actually we do not know the problems that occur from within Manchester United. What I do know is that their coaches must be replaced (because I look from the outside). And for problems from within (management) or evaluation of the players also do not know. Because so far I see Manchester United players can still be said to be good and potential. And somehow I am always focused on OLE which makes Manchester United seem helpless now. I hope for the best only to man united going forward.

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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 11, 2019, 06:06:14 AM

Quote from: elda34b on October 11, 2019, 05:28:12 AM

Quote from: DaveWave on October 11, 2019, 04:17:27 AM

Frankly, I don't believe on the conspiracy here that players aren't playing well on purpose as they are against Solksjaer. Anyway, Man U needs to man it up if they want to stay relevant in this season.

It's not a conspiracy, you can see how they played before United appointed Solksjaer as the manager and after that, there's clearly a huge difference. He has the same players, and in fact, new signings that mean he could do better if the players are playing as good as they were in the matches before.

To be sure Manchester United under the guidance of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not contribute much. And that really has an impact now. We see with the current condition, Manchester United needs improvement. Especially for coaching positions, because in my opinion Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can't do much anymore.

In my opinion, if Manchester United just change their coach, I don't think it will make a good change for United. not only the coach must be replaced, the management and the players must also be evaluated. at this time the Glazer's family only cared about the money and gave full responsibility to Ed Woodward who had no idea about football

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 11, 2019, 03:23:57 AM

Any injury from the international break could always causing the odds up and down , I'll just grab these good odds while it last!
Also a draw @3.85 seems good though, I'll just consider this.

Don't be too sure. Despite the fact that Manchester United haven't been at the top of their game this season doesn't mean you should write them off. Right from the onset, Liverpool vs Manchester United fixture has always been a tough one. Hard to predict the winner. Even though Man Utd are struggling against smaller teams, they might man up and draw Liverpool - Even win at old Trafford. I'm a Liverpool fan and this fixture is a major hurdle for us at the moment.

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Quote from: elda34b on October 11, 2019, 05:28:12 AM

Quote from: DaveWave on October 11, 2019, 04:17:27 AM

Frankly, I don't believe on the conspiracy here that players aren't playing well on purpose as they are against Solksjaer. Anyway, Man U needs to man it up if they want to stay relevant in this season.

It's not a conspiracy, you can see how they played before United appointed Solksjaer as the manager and after that, there's clearly a huge difference. He has the same players, and in fact, new signings that mean he could do better if the players are playing as good as they were in the matches before.

To be sure Manchester United under the guidance of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not contribute much. And that really has an impact now. We see with the current condition, Manchester United needs improvement. Especially for coaching positions, because in my opinion Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can't do much anymore.

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Quote from: DaveWave on October 11, 2019, 04:17:27 AM

Frankly, I don't believe on the conspiracy here that players aren't playing well on purpose as they are against Solksjaer. Anyway, Man U needs to man it up if they want to stay relevant in this season.

It's not a conspiracy, you can see how they played before United appointed Solksjaer as the manager and after that, there's clearly a huge difference. He has the same players, and in fact, new signings that mean he could do better if the players are playing as good as they were in the matches before.

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