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I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Basically, if you really have a big volume of coin you might affect the price of the coin in the market. I believe that it is not manipulation but jist a short term effect on the coin's value. Surely in no time tge price will eventually recover and continue to go on it's way. Changes might happen but no really haa the full control over it.

Agreed, someone with a big stack could just be selling and influence the market, but does not mean he is trying to manipulate the price.

Someone with a big stack selling is obviously selling and that is not a problem, but when you start seeing spoofing on the order book, or wash trading, or some sort of ways to deceive other people so as to dump on them and gain from maybe their stop loss or something, then, that is where the main problem is going to be and that is where manipulation of prices do come in.

Yes, some traders can change their mind when trying to make an order, but the truth is that a lot of manipulation is done in this market, and most traders would definitely have noticed that.

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Some people find that many examples of price manipulation occur only because the market is very fragile for a variety of hidden cryptoes, including Bitcoin. If Bitcoin wants to be taken seriously, it may not be this easy or legal to manipulate the market. While decentralization should supersede the rules, it is clear that there is still a way to do it before taken seriously

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I don't know for sure, but I think there is a price manipulation that occurs in bitcoin prices. it maybe hard to find who can manipulate bitcoin prices because it is not do by 1 person, but in doing with some people or groups that have the same purpose.

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That's possible. There is no precise information. Rumor has it. And if you think about it, it's possible that so-called whales can control the price. But mostly the price depends on the market.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 25, 2018, 10:12:32 PM

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Maybe yes or maybe not Im not sure if there is a possibility to manipulate the bitcoin price. Only one that I know that could possibly manipulate the price is the stock holder like company's that has an ally an stock holders also. But it is only my opinion and prediction.

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Quote from: Capt00 on June 11, 2018, 09:23:26 PM

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Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.

Yet, we are aware of that and we can't stop them since they have power to take such action. Crypto investment is somewhat similar to local ,form of investment, still manipulation is present. That's why we just accept these cause that is really we are.

Yes whales are big problem in this market. They manipulate the price in the market. When they hold a large amount of bitcoin they manipulate the price and set a price according to their well. They collect maximum of profit from bitcoin investment and small investors often lose their money due to manipulation. Many people do not know anything about manipulation.

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Quote from: maydna on June 17, 2018, 05:50:26 AM

manipulation of the price could be possible especially if people which a huge money do this, I think they can move the price into one price level and then get to the price before. but it should need a big money to moves and not all people can do this. but personally, I really don't know about this since I am not too often to trade for a few days or a few weeks ago so I think I don't know much info about this.

I even saw a video of someone who acknowledged that the price movement of kriptocurrency can be manipulated by a group of people who have big capital and they can join certain organizations so that they can simultaneously affect market price movements; they can deliberately drop the market by simultaneously putting the price on point lowest

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to manipulate prices requires enormous funds, perhaps tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of USD. we can only avail by buying bitcoins at cheap prices.

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Everything can be possible in our life! The goal of the government is to prevent the financial independence of ordinary people, changes in the distribution of wealth is not in their pozu, so they do everything that bitcoin has fallen or completely depreciated. I'm sure they won't succeed! The time of oligarchs comes to naught, as well as all currency ruling nowadays in the form of dollar and Euro... Every bitcoins! Wink

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Yes, a few days ago, I read the article, the Neil Gandal Researchers, JT Hamrick, Tyler Moore, and Tali Oberman have written an interesting paper about Bitcoin price manipulation that Titled "Price Manipulation in the Bitcoin Ecosystem" and appears in a recent issue of the Journal of Monetary Economics, this paper explains to what extent the Bitcoin ecosystem is controlled by evil actors.

For many people, it is clear that the Bitcoin market is at least manipulated by one or two major players. "This paper identifies and analyzes the impact of suspicious trading activity on the currency exchange of Mt. Gox Bitcoin, in which approximately 600,000 bitcoin (BTC) worth $ 188 million was obtained incorrectly, "the researchers wrote.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 25, 2018, 10:12:32 PM

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

yep, there are things inside the cryptosphere that are hard to explain in details - like the price manipulation. It is also hard to accuse somebody without hard data... but there aint really something that money can't buy, for anything else there is mastercard.

ha ha. What I mean was, these exchanges could possibly falsify the volume, and the cap can always be pumped by money makers. but of course, without data, this is just another fake news.

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I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think price manipulation for bitcoin is possible. Those big investors can do it since they have the power to store large amount of bitcoin in their hands and at the same time release them the time they wanted. As a result it can affect the market's supply and demand.

Yeah it is possible and I think that in this day whales are trying to hold maximum bitcoins and due to their price manipulation the price is decreasing day by day. I doubt that the previous year pump was also due to big investor’s manipulation. The price reached to $20000 and they made thousands of dollars. On the peak they sold their holding and price collapsed at once.

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manipulation of the price could be possible especially if people which a huge money do this, I think they can move the price into one price level and then get to the price before. but it should need a big money to moves and not all people can do this. but personally, I really don't know about this since I am not too often to trade for a few days or a few weeks ago so I think I don't know much info about this.

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Yea it is possible. When you think about it, if you have large amount of anything you had then your choice or any immediate decision would cause the market change dramatically. They called those persons as a whales which group of a big name in this field.

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Manipulation with prices for bitcoin is not only possible, but it already happens. Since the sale of futures for bitcoins, thanks to which you can either raise or lower the price. We can say that bitcoin is a decentralized network, but reality is completely different.

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This indeed occur in cryptocurrency market. Whale do exists.

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Price manipulation is normal in the market of the cryptocurrencies because we can't deny that there are people who are wealthier than us, who have a lot of money compared to us so they are called as whales in the market which have the advantage in the market because of their money and the thing that we can do right now is to hold if we are stuck at a coin.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 25, 2018, 10:12:32 PM

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It actually happens, since the market of bitcoin basically follows the law of ethics. "Supply and Demand" and this can be easily manipulated by the whales traders. If they will be selling or purchasing together then the price might suddenly drops or goes up. Tho I think even if they will find out that this is really happening they can't put charges to those traders.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 25, 2018, 10:12:32 PM

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It is not just happen before it happens everyday. There are lots of whales making the pump of a certain token they want to gain huge profit. Check out how some coins/tokens gain with more than 100% increase? Then the next day it is negative due to severe manipulations. Everyone is probably looking on the coinmarketcap and day traders used the pattern to do some trading which some they dont have any ideas that the price are just a pump by a whale group.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 25, 2018, 10:12:32 PM

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Actually, that is possible that the price of Bitcoin was manipulated.
But I don't think it will be investigated by the law enforcement.

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