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Myths B

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Quote from: ranochigo on December 11, 2020, 10:05:24 PM

Quote from: Myths B on December 11, 2020, 09:54:33 PM

They allow gambler to withdrawal my money If gambler do betting or get some wagered? How possible wagered could avoid people from money laundry?

If they want to avoid money laundry they must collect all data ID for those gambler, KYC before deposit.

They got some an ID what's for? How possible they could stated the ID were real one? How if they collect ID then allow people withdrawal, meanwhile those ID are faked.

Please don't tell me about happy now, I have sacrificed a lot for this case.

Like it or not, PrimeDice or any other gambling sites operates in certain jurisdiction that will inevitably have some form of AML/KYC policy to follow. You can't fault them for being cautious about certain behaviours and require additional verification. Most gambling sites avoid getting themselves into this situation and only flag suspicious transactions to avoid collecting too much data.

There's obviously a chance that the ID is a fake but if anything happens, they can still produce something to prove that they have done their due diligence and that any mishaps is not their fault.

Now that this is done, you can't probably avoid using PrimeDice or any other gambling sites in the future if you don't want to deal with this kind of situations and that the thread should be closed.

Thanks for your corner, I just want to share my bad experience, I'm already said before they are WON for this case.

Now I don't know my ID will be end up, i'm bored withthey are trusted company or licensed. In fact, we are know those seller data get from...

Thread locked.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 11, 2020, 09:54:33 PM

They allow gambler to withdrawal my money If gambler do betting or get some wagered? How possible wagered could avoid people from money laundry?

If they want to avoid money laundry they must collect all data ID for those gambler, KYC before deposit.

They got some an ID what's for? How possible they could stated the ID were real one? How if they collect ID then allow people withdrawal, meanwhile those ID are faked.

Please don't tell me about happy now, I have sacrificed a lot for this case.

Like it or not, PrimeDice or any other gambling sites operates in certain jurisdiction that will inevitably have some form of AML/KYC policy to follow. You can't fault them for being cautious about certain behaviours and require additional verification. Most gambling sites avoid getting themselves into this situation and only flag suspicious transactions to avoid collecting too much data.

There's obviously a chance that the ID is a fake but if anything happens, they can still produce something to prove that they have done their due diligence and that any mishaps is not their fault.

Now that this is done, you can't probably avoid using PrimeDice or any other gambling sites in the future if you don't want to deal with this kind of situations and that the thread should be closed.

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Update, Now I got my balance back after 24hours. Thanks for you all feed guys.

I really want to reply those post but I'm not good with my language, wish you all understand, I have learn lot for my case.

I just felt if TOS was due to suspicious behavior like a deposit then left is dangerous, it's funny... We had control full for own money want to buy or not, they not goods.

They allow gambler to withdrawal my money If gambler do betting or get some wagered? How possible wagered could avoid people from money laundry?

If they want to avoid money laundry they must collect all data ID for those gambler, KYC before deposit.

They got some an ID what's for? How possible they could stated the ID were real one? How if they collect ID then allow people withdrawal, meanwhile those ID are faked.

Please don't tell me about happy now, I have sacrificed a lot for this case.

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Quote from: MICRO on December 10, 2020, 10:00:36 AM

Hey,

I don't see your username anywhere can you post that or send me a pm and i can check whats the problem with your account and we can sort it out asap.

Quoting this post for OP so that it will not be flooded by other general comment. This is the only answer to your problem.

To everyone, Please stop posting your opinion here so that this issue will solve easily. Micro is the only guy here in the forum that can give us the clear explanation about the issue and solve it.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 10, 2020, 06:33:23 AM

Quote from: Reatim on December 10, 2020, 06:18:08 AM

But we also knew that this not apply to anyone that's why OP is reacting like this and he might be doing this for many times so he was very shock that he needs to send ID and Now Having thread here to ask for Support though he did not mention that literally .

Prime Dice and Stakes.com has been around for long time and one of the Gambling site that receives very minimal Issue considering that gambling Sites are the favorite target of those extortionist and Troll here.

They Handled each case completely fair and drop a solution on it,Just comply to what they asked and Stop this kind of reaction first,if the result did not make you satisfy then Lets make this thread active.

I didn't open Primedice for years, so I don't know much about rules and regulations on that site! What draw my attention is the rollover requirement for withdrawing the deposit! I didn't know about that until a few months ago, on gambit casino!

I'm not sure if that policy or requirements are added to their TOS in the past but what i know is this happens because of Some illegal activities that the gambling site is being used for Mixing or scape goat to make clean those amount coming from their activities.

Quote from: iv4n on December 10, 2020, 06:33:23 AM

It's risky, but OP can place all in bet at x 0.01! And I think that will be enough for a wager requirement.

Well the wager maybe is just part of tactics to at least proving you are not just using their platform in other things than gambling or to Pause for a while your account while under investigation.

But maybe this will be clear now as the Owner answered already and will check the issue to solve right away.

Quote from: MICRO on December 10, 2020, 10:00:36 AM

Hey,

I don't see your username anywhere can you post that or send me a pm and i can check whats the problem with your account and we can sort it out asap.

Not taking 24 hrs and the response is already here,Good to see you around ..

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 09:26:02 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Am okay with side things like this, agreed 100%.
But the question's, what's the my ID for? analysis / review my ID? How? They had control databases ID all planets?

They are just been conscious and operating within their TOS because some money launderer and hackers once used gambling/exchange site deposit and withdraw as a way to clean their coin or stay hidden from the authority which I believe was the reason why they ask you for an ID verification since you just deposit and withdraw the funds without doing anything with it.

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on December 10, 2020, 07:29:09 AM

May I know how much is the money you want to widraw that's why it's resulted for asking your identity , maybe it's a large funds to request that's why they are securing that you do it in legal way . if only eight hours or a day they might be a hard time verifying your identity before they transfer the money to you. since you are already undergoing kyc, just wait for them for update .

Actually you need to read the OP again because he didn't win anything instead he just deposited some money and decided not to play and cash it back out to his wallet.

I think there must be a good reason for primedice to ask for documents because I am playing since years and never have been asked to submit any kinf of document to them despite having some good and big wins at times.

I would love to read a verdict from primedice about this because from what is posted here so far, there was no need for documents.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

While I can understand why you are mad at the same time you need to view this from their point of view, long ago when casinos allowed people to withdraw their money without any wager requirements hackers used casinos to mix their coins and get away with crimes, that is why most casinos have that policy and while you do not like to hear it, you have to do it if you plan to keep gambling in cryptocurrency casinos, because I can assure you that if you do this again in another casino the same will happen again.

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You could just wager if they have told you to do it instead of getting yourself into a forced KYC. That's what you have to do and they've seen some activity that they don't like with your account.

@OP the owner has posted on this thread, send him a message. He'll take action on your problem.

Quote from: MICRO on December 10, 2020, 10:00:36 AM

Hey,

I don't see your username anywhere can you post that or send me a pm and i can check whats the problem with your account and we can sort it out asap.

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Quote from: Sadlife on December 10, 2020, 07:16:17 AM

Primedice used to be one of my top gambling platforms to play into because they have higher winning odds, just betting high amount and you can make huge return in their roll game.
But now, they slowly unreliable with more complaints here in the community.
That's why never deposit huge cash in gambling platforms.

Honestly speaking I am with PD here not because of their reputation but because I understand what's the problem here.

Look a lot of guys use casinos as crypto mixing service and money laundering might happen if these casinos are not alert and hence when a player deposits money, doesn't wager or play anything and then withdraws it, the casinos has to ask some questions and KYC might be asked to ensure we know the identity of the player in case any suspicious or fraudulent activity is associated with him.

I believe that's the reason they asked for identity but I do agree it feels bad as a player when you have to submit KYC.

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You should have read first their TOS in order to avoid this kind of issues, I wonder also if there are certain times of wagering before someone can activate the withdrawal process in their account as it is simply not appropriate if I were to say because what if someone has wagered 3x only and he wins then he decided to cashout his money then he will face the same issue to OP?

Base on dicesites, Primedice is the #1 base on wagered and bets so I don't think so that they will just freeze a one account that will likely to affect their reputation. I will just hope that your issue will be solve as soon as possible as you already send their required documents in order to process your withdrawal request.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 10, 2020, 09:34:44 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

~ I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Indeed some people use big gambling sites to mix dirty money, so if I were Myths B, I would not be surprised by the delay in the results of the check. If after three working days the situation is not cleared up then you can create a separate topic in the reputation but of course with all the proofs.

we have dedicated mixers for cryptos and they arent that expensive and i guess mixers wont care if where did the money came from or where will it be heading but they will only do what the job are but why the op didnt used them ? what he is telling the truth and he is really a gambler

and the act of depositing and withdrawing in a gambling site do happens normally but not all user done this are money launderers or doing an illegal business .

i tried it on pd once where i depo and then withdraw , the reason i did that becaus i have a small funds there but i cant withdrew it because i am halfway from the minimum withdraw .

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Hey,

I don't see your username anywhere can you post that or send me a pm and i can check whats the problem with your account and we can sort it out asap.

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Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

~ I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Indeed some people use big gambling sites to mix dirty money, so if I were Myths B, I would not be surprised by the delay in the results of the check. If after three working days the situation is not cleared up then you can create a separate topic in the reputation but of course with all the proofs.

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I don't think Primedice would ruin their reputation because of some sort like that I'm sure that there's a reason behind it. I think you have invested a big amount of money and you needed to undergo to KYC I think they mandatory needed to ask it since it's according to their ToS and in compliance with their regulation.

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As I perceived, you just put your own money and decided to take it out and that is where the problem happened. First of all, they need you to comply with their Terms and Conditions, and after you have complied, they promised you with action but they didn't do anything. That is unfair on your end to be treated that way as you are a customer, you just need to take your money out for your personal reasons. Since you have already given your identity, they should do their end to help and support you as that is their job. I really believe that the problem here is with the customer representative. Aside from contacting the support, perhaps you can contact someone in Primedice and also include in your report the dissatisfaction you have experienced.

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Quote from: Taskford on December 10, 2020, 07:37:53 AM

I don't know if this claim is legitimate since there's no proof has been shown yet here but maybe the best thing you can do here if your case is true is to post on primedice ann thread and call the attention of stunna also their representative since I think this one will be the fastest solution to solve your issue.

Also next time provide those proof since people really need that to give an accurate advice and to see if PD got a mistake here.

That's what I am thinking too, I don't think if he is saying the truth but he can send us a proof if ever, but I think providing KYC is only needed if that thing occurs, we don't need to provide ID for us to play, but I think if we are going to withdraw a large scale of money that he did not touch even once, or play and it is just someone who send it to his casino account, and that is their medium to make transaction then maybe that is the reason why PD needed his identity.

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Quote from: Sadlife on December 10, 2020, 07:16:17 AM

Primedice used to be one of my top gambling platforms to play into because they have higher winning odds, just betting high amount and you can make huge return in their roll game.
But now, they slowly unreliable with more complaints here in the community.
That's why never deposit huge cash in gambling platforms.

LOL, They are offering a dice game which is same winning odds to other casino. It varies only in the house edge percentage. So its impossible that the chance on winning on PD is greater than other casino if you set the roll odds exactly the same. I need to know your holy smoke dude. Jk Cheesy

PD and the rest of the casino apply same rule once there ToS was violated because they need to submit it for AML compliance. If the guy accused was indeed a money launderer, They will be the one liable for letting the crime happened on there casino.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

I don't know if this claim is legitimate since there's no proof has been shown yet here but maybe the best thing you can do here if your case is true is to post on primedice ann thread and call the attention of stunna also their representative since I think this one will be the fastest solution to solve your issue.

Also next time provide those proof since people really need that to give an accurate advice and to see if PD got a mistake here.

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May I know how much is the money you want to widraw that's why it's resulted for asking your identity , maybe it's a large funds to request that's why they are securing that you do it in legal way . if only eight hours or a day they might be a hard time verifying your identity before they transfer the money to you. since you are already undergoing kyc, just wait for them for update .

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