Primedice = Prison for your money - page 3.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 09, 2020, 11:51:18 PM

I didn't know they were a licensed casino and required KYC in some cases. What is the purpose of even having a shitty Curacao license? Maybe it's for tax purposes but for the players it is meaningless and is worth nothing. It just adds an extra layer of friction that doesn't need to exist. It also gives them a reason to scam you whenever they feel like it by targeting users with mandated verification.

yeah they are and licensed casinos are the one that requires kyc the most . for some players seeing a site that have license gives them confidence and if many players are confident about your site they will play more but there are also players that dont like kyc so they avoid licensed casinos .

ive been a player of primedice for a long time and i dont have a problems with them , they dont scam people so accuse like this are sometimes inacurate and only try to damage the sites reputation .

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Have you posted in their ANN thread?

I guess that's the best thing to do first, let them reply on your concerns, and if you don't like it, then you can bring it here for discussion, asking for some suggestion or opinion, then next is the scam accusation if you find your concern having a solid evidence to back.

If we will only look at PD reputation, people would say they will not scam.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 09:26:02 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Am okay with side things like this, agreed 100%.
But the question's, what's the my ID for? analysis / review my ID? How? They had control databases ID all planets?

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Well there are few who Explains this above, you are under Review or investigation because that's what commonly do in gambling site as tend to use as coin mixer , So depositing and followed by withdrawal looks suspicious to the site , at least this may serve as learning to others that if you are not sure playing then Prevent from depositing earlier because this might happen also to them.
No one is in wrong move here it's just happen the some protocols must implemented and you need to comply and wait for now.PD has a good name here as Stake.com so Just calm things will be alright if you are not doing anything wrong.

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I didn't know they were a licensed casino and required KYC in some cases. What is the purpose of even having a shitty Curacao license? Maybe it's for tax purposes but for the players it is meaningless and is worth nothing. It just adds an extra layer of friction that doesn't need to exist. It also gives them a reason to scam you whenever they feel like it by targeting users with mandated verification.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 09:26:02 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Am okay with side things like this, agreed 100%.
But the question's, what's the my ID for? analysis / review my ID? How? They had control databases ID all planets?

Make no mistake, I'm not blaming you but I'm not blaming Primedice either. You made your thing, set off the alarm, and now Primedice reacted accordingly.

As to your question, and as much as I hate it myself, KYC is deemed the prevention and the response to a possible money laundering attempt, which your action could amount to as far as the triggers in the site are concerned. So they have to make sure there is someone accountable for it. That's basically for security and AML compliance.

Don't think Primedice itself wants this. This is just the site being compliant to the demands of the law.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

I think Prime dice don't intend to Scam or Do anything Bad to You account OP, there are some cases when People Uses gambling site to Hide their transactions so what they do is Send in gambling site their Funds then send in another wallet .

I'm not saying that you did that but this may trigger the Alarm in PD security to Hold your account and questioned,Having ID is clear for verification though i am not familiar in technicalities but what is clear here is You Deposit the Funds in their Platform and without Playing decide to withdraw the funds again. i believe this is a suspicious Act in which PD reacted.

Hoping for clarity and if you are clean this will be settle Because PD won't risk their Good reputation just for such funds though Answers will be reveal soon if what's inside.hopefully end in Good one.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

I don’t think PD is a scam site, but KYC sucks that I’ll agree and next time avoid playing on sites that force KYC on you. Furthermore many of their representatives are here eg Micro, Stunna, so contact them and I’m sure that this will be resolved by them at the earliest.

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You could've avoided KYC if you asked us earlier. Anyway the deposit rollover on most casinos is usually x1 they probably notice that a lot of accounts make a deposit then withdraw while barely making any bets. I used to do the same when I hunt for promotions and contests but I always make sure to wager my entire deposit before requesting a withdraw to avoid these kind of problems.

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Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Any gambling site will sound an alarm if you are going to this, gambling sites are not mixers, if you deposit that means you are about to play and make a withdrawal so your transaction will and cannot be traced, you should have a good reason why you deposit then withdrawal without playing any game, it's a suspicious action.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on December 09, 2020, 04:05:16 PM

What they are doing with your personal details isn't fair enough, because that's breaching an identity. Unfortunately you've dealt on them without any knowledge about staging funds, and I think 8 hours was a long delay for you to wait. It seems that they're starting to scam you, I hope it won't happen actually as it shows signs of fraud actions.

Never thought that these withdraw holding problems is this much prevalent. I do not get it either but shouldn't that be clear at the first place because it involves money. Not to mention that they also have a very unresponsive and useless support team, I am not saying that out of thin air but most gambling site accusation have an incompetent support team which is really sad because this is the only bridge for customers to connect with the management. Hopefully, things will go the other way but knowing the way these website operate and how soulless they are, I think it will be close to impossible.

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Stop yelling about mixer coins at casino. It's such said bitcoins is dirty meanwhile fiat is not.

They tons of services to mixing coins even more than safe.

It's funny or may be new fun fact? If you want to mixing your coins come come to casino you just need to play at my website met wagered, cause we collect your house edge and there you go.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I believe they will not, they will not build a reputation for issues about scamming their players even if it's a big amount they are not the only one who've asked about KYC this is the industry practice, this applies to all their gamblers

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Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

It's to early to tell that, let them give their side first they are compliant so they expect their players to be compliant also

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Stop blame me for against TOS. They already win this case.

So let's waiting an update Cheesy

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

Am okay with side things like this, agreed 100%.
But the question's, what's the my ID for? analysis / review my ID? How? They had control databases ID all planets?

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I was a Primedice user during my earliest days in Bitcoin and never had I encountered any untoward incident with the site. I've been away from the site for years now. I don't know if things have changed for the worse but I seriously doubt it.

I think the problem here is depositing money and then withdrawing it right after without even playing a single game with it. I guess that's something strange enough that it automatically raises suspicion. You know, money laundering through gambling sites and casinos is still probably rampant nowadays.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 09, 2020, 08:54:31 PM

Well, it was just still 8 hours or so others may even take a day/s or week/s so you better wait. The question arises on them I guess when you just want to deposit then withdraw in an instant too and maybe you are into this issue (quoted below from their site's TOS). That reason that you just halted your intention to play isn't valid, if you just want to mix your coins then you should have used mixers instead as a service and not an online gambling platform that are duly licensed.

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AML & SANCTIONS COMPLIANCE. Primedice expressly prohibits and rejects the use of the Service for any form of illicit activity, including money laundering, terrorist financing or trade sanctions violations, consistent with various jurisdictions’ laws, regulations and norms. To that end, the Service is not offered to individuals or entities subject to United States, European Union, or other global sanctions or watch lists. By using the Service, you represent and warrant that you are not so subject.

I do that sometimes on my account. I just deposit and do withdrawal right after my after got confirmed. Sometimes I loss my desire to gamble due to the duration of transaction confirmation. But I don't encounter this kind of problem. They can actually check the transaction history of the account if the user is just mixing there coins.

They should just set a wagering requirements to there withdrawal if they don't want this kind of thing just like FJ do.

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Well, it was just still 8 hours or so others may even take a day/s or week/s so you better wait. The question arises on them I guess when you just want to deposit then withdraw in an instant too and maybe you are into this issue (quoted below from their site's TOS). That reason that you just halted your intention to play isn't valid, if you just want to mix your coins then you should have used mixers instead as a service and not an online gambling platform that are duly licensed.

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AML & SANCTIONS COMPLIANCE. Primedice expressly prohibits and rejects the use of the Service for any form of illicit activity, including money laundering, terrorist financing or trade sanctions violations, consistent with various jurisdictions’ laws, regulations and norms. To that end, the Service is not offered to individuals or entities subject to United States, European Union, or other global sanctions or watch lists. By using the Service, you represent and warrant that you are not so subject.

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Well KYC was, and always be an ass for most players. Unfortunate that you didn't know about Primedice's rules about it beforehand. The very least is that your funds aren't locked out permanently... so far. If they find "issues" with your id then your funds may very well be locked out for a longer period of time. Might as well ask around on other prime dice users who got hit by KYC about specifically what happened and what they did. It isn't just prime dice tbh, any casino with a KYC is like a prison for your money, and not only your money but also your identity. This is why a lot of people love casinos without KYC, I myself am one.

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Quote from: Myths B on December 09, 2020, 03:54:25 PM

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

Thank you for sharing your -unfortunately- bad experience. It helps the community to be aware of scammers and unprofessional platforms.
As Botnake said above, you should report your issue on their topic.

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Their thread is still open, it's not even self moderated.

Maybe you can also share your post here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.32020, so we can read their replies.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on December 09, 2020, 04:05:16 PM

What they are doing with your personal details isn't fair enough, because that's breaching an identity. Unfortunately you've dealt on them without any knowledge about staging funds, and I think 8 hours was a long delay for you to wait. It seems that they're starting to scam you, I hope it won't happen actually as it shows signs of fraud actions.

I don’t think PD would even bother to scam you if the amount is too low. All they’re doing is compliance and whatnot to relevant laws and regulations that cover them, and any and every identity is secured (for sure) in their hands. If you think they are scamming you, or doing fraudulent activities with your identity, you must put up a Scam Accusation with valid proofs and claims. PD may not be a perfect gambling platform, but I’m sure they won’t scam anyone for any amount and break the forum’s and community’s trust.

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