Jeezzz i just saw this. Im glad that he didn't get away with much more coins.
And btw unmuted u Associates .
Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1081. (Read 1989815 times)
November 18, 2014, 06:42:52 AM
November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?
Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.
There is a possibility of that happening. It would be better for the user to change the client seed frequently, if thats the case.
November 18, 2014, 06:25:19 AM
Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose?
Does that mean you can interfere with the results?No, no.
We only working on a system to preserve players and investors
November 18, 2014, 05:51:48 AM
I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?
Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.
Does that mean you can interfere with the results?
November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?
Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.
November 18, 2014, 05:03:43 AM
-snip-
Was this resolved?
Was this resolved?
Yes it was resolved.
I think this post was from a long time ago.
November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM
I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?
Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.
November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM
Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.
We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.
Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.
If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.
I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?
November 18, 2014, 04:50:56 AM
Lol?
I think if you had some coin of other player you need to take more care than a "lol"
November 18, 2014, 04:48:08 AM
Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.
We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.
Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.
If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.
November 18, 2014, 04:36:24 AM
Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.
We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.
Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.
If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.
November 18, 2014, 04:14:32 AM
November 18, 2014, 04:01:12 AM
Stunna just said in chat that the guy abused an exploit and therefore could use an unhashed seed; so he could predict the rolls. Obviously won't be allowed to withdraw.
Why people abuse exploits like this?
He could earn some buck either by telling Stunna about the bug or by moderating his luck, but the way he did he got no winnings
What else could it be other than greed? Stunna mentioned that he withdrew 40btc before he was caught and I doubt the bounty for bugs would've been this big. Shame about the exploit and the fact that it was exploited but these are sadly just part of the business.
November 18, 2014, 02:07:05 AM
Maybe he has been using the exploit in a less obvious way for a while now on other accounts and has already won all the coins he wanted to win. This could be his fun way of "reporting" it.
Could be doog knowing how some hackers are
Just taking his 40 Bitcoin commission and then showing off the trick of the trade
It's a pretty complex situation, we put in a basic fix which was defeated and now we're taking stronger measures to ensure this doesn't happen again.
Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.
I'll be providing full information later this week after we've done some extensive testing. I am comfortable saying that there was no breach of server or database and all account balances are 100% safe, no accounts should be effected by this issue it only effects us.
November 18, 2014, 02:04:12 AM
Could an admin or moderator of the website please unmute me on PrimeDice? I have been muted for over 2 days and i already sent an email in.
User : Associates
User : Associates
Why did they muted you?
Try to message support or Stunna here.
Its easier that way.
November 18, 2014, 01:58:59 AM
Maybe he has been using the exploit in a less obvious way for a while now on other accounts and has already won all the coins he wanted to win. This could be his fun way of "reporting" it.
Could be doog knowing how some hackers are
Just taking his 40 Bitcoin commission and then showing off the trick of the trade
November 18, 2014, 01:42:45 AM
your IQ must be high if you can't tell if it's a joke or not
It's hard to tell with you sometimes.
With most people it's easy: if it's funny, it's a joke...
Why people abuse exploits like this?
He could earn some buck either by telling Stunna about the bug or by moderating his luck, but the way he did he got no winnings
He could earn some buck either by telling Stunna about the bug or by moderating his luck, but the way he did he got no winnings
Because sites often don't pay well for reported exploits. Just yesterday a guy was posting on the SatoshiDice thread about how he can withdraw his balance twice to double his bankroll, but they don't believe him and so won't pay him.
the way he used the exploit was dumb, betting large amounts that can be seen by other people hmmmm... Obvious way to get caught cheating
Maybe he has been using the exploit in a less obvious way for a while now on other accounts and has already won all the coins he wanted to win. This could be his fun way of "reporting" it.
November 17, 2014, 10:51:38 PM
can someone explain how to do this and how i can get away with it?
thanks
thanks
You've got to be joking about this post bro. If you are joking, it's not funny at all. If you aren't, go buy some intelligence at the nearby elementary school.
your IQ must be high if you can't tell if it's a joke or not
November 17, 2014, 10:38:09 PM
Stunna said in chat that the guy abused an exploit and thereby used an unhashed seed; so he could predict the rolls. Obviously won't be allowed to withdraw.
He managed to withdraw 40 coins here before we caught him
https://blockchain.info/address/14HQ67ZhmATviHi9RdYhbUriAGSFmJpYoB
We're investigating this now, I think I know what's happening though but I'm not going to reveal it until we've 100% patched it up.
Naturally the "this is rigged" etc arguments will start rolling in but at the end of the day anyone can mathematically verify all rolls they made. I'll explain how he managed to get an unhashed seed when we've resolved this. Working on it now
Thanks for letting us know! I hope you guys can get this patched up promptly and thoroughly.
November 17, 2014, 10:14:51 PM
Stunna just said in chat that the guy abused an exploit and therefore could use an unhashed seed; so he could predict the rolls. Obviously won't be allowed to withdraw.
Why people abuse exploits like this?
He could earn some buck either by telling Stunna about the bug or by moderating his luck, but the way he did he got no winnings
He withdrew 40 btc and probably took a lot more without detection before this run. The thing is, there is no amount Stunna could really offer to make this worthwhile financially for any exploiter, since he can take a great deal more through theft.
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