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Quote from: angeloanggam on November 18, 2014, 06:49:51 AM

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Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

There is a possibility of that happening. It would be better for the user to change the client seed frequently, if thats the case.

Is everything good on PD?

All good

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Quote from: angeloanggam on November 18, 2014, 06:49:51 AM

Quote from: finnile on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM

Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

There is a possibility of that happening. It would be better for the user to change the client seed frequently, if thats the case.

Is everything good on PD?

Primedice uses the same server seed and client seed throughout till either they notify you or you change it yourself. They cannot change the result since the results are predetermined when the server seed and the client seed are set. The one affecting result is the nonce which increases by 1 after every bet.

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Quote from: finnile on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM

Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

There is a possibility of that happening. It would be better for the user to change the client seed frequently, if thats the case.

Is everything good on PD?

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MICRO

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Oldschool!

Jeezzz i just saw this. Im glad that he didn't get away with much more coins.

And btw unmuted u Associates .

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Quote from: ranochigo on November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM

Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

There is a possibility of that happening. It would be better for the user to change the client seed frequently, if thats the case.

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"shh, he's coding..."

Quote from: Dondie on November 18, 2014, 05:51:48 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose?

Does that mean you can interfere with the results?

No, no.

We only working on a system to preserve players and investors

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Quote from: ranochigo on November 18, 2014, 05:47:16 AM

Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

Does that mean you can interfere with the results?

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Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

Wait... So you guys could potentially observe the betting pattern of players and change the server seed to make them lose? Can't the server modify the result and show a server seed when the user requests for it via the API and gives the user the losing result when calculated?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:32 AM

-snip-
Was this resolved?

Yes it was resolved.
I think this post was from a long time ago.

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Quote from: philiveyjr on November 18, 2014, 04:52:14 AM

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

Yes it's so hard to track server seed with auto-bet, we need to working on some API calls to solve this untrust.

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Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:36:24 AM

Quote from: Stunna on November 18, 2014, 02:07:05 AM

Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.

We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.

Quote from: dooglus on October 21, 2014, 11:26:53 PM

Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.

If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.

I would find it hard to keep track of each server seed if I run an automatic bot. How do I verify each roll in that case?

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"shh, he's coding..."

Quote from: NLNico on November 18, 2014, 04:48:08 AM

Lol?

I think if you had some coin of other player you need to take more care than a "lol" Wink

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Quote from: BikiniDice on November 18, 2014, 04:36:24 AM

Quote from: Stunna on November 18, 2014, 02:07:05 AM

Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.

We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.

Quote from: dooglus on October 21, 2014, 11:26:53 PM

Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.

If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.

Lol?

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Quote from: Stunna on November 18, 2014, 02:07:05 AM

Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.

We (bikinidice) change server seed every rool. That's isn't very pretty for player (need to check every time his pair to make sure of our fair system) but we need to protect our investors coin.

Quote from: dooglus on October 21, 2014, 11:26:53 PM

Sites like bikinidice which pick a new server seed for every roll are a real pain to play on for the paranoid gambler. In order to be sure that the rolls are fair, you have to make a note of each new server seed hash, and then pick a new random client seed as well - for every roll - and then verify the rolls afterwards, too.

If any player force the sha256 server seed is a BIG problem. Yes it's difficult but not impossible.

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Quote from: jaberwock on November 17, 2014, 09:37:36 PM

Quote from: Gws24 on November 17, 2014, 09:26:00 PM

Stunna just said in chat that the guy abused an exploit and therefore could use an unhashed seed; so he could predict the rolls. Obviously won't be allowed to withdraw.

Why people abuse exploits like this?

He could earn some buck either by telling Stunna about the bug or by moderating his luck, but the way he did he got no winnings

What else could it be other than greed? Stunna mentioned that he withdrew 40btc before he was caught and I doubt the bounty for bugs would've been this big. Shame about the exploit and the fact that it was exploited but these are sadly just part of the business.

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Quote from: freedomno1 on November 18, 2014, 01:58:59 AM

Quote from: dooglus on November 18, 2014, 01:42:45 AM

Maybe he has been using the exploit in a less obvious way for a while now on other accounts and has already won all the coins he wanted to win. This could be his fun way of "reporting" it.

Could be doog knowing how some hackers are
Just taking his 40 Bitcoin commission and then showing off the trick of the trade

It's a pretty complex situation, we put in a basic fix which was defeated and now we're taking stronger measures to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Part of fixing the issue is forcing all accounts to set a new seed pair, in an hour expect to be prompted to set a new pair.

I'll be providing full information later this week after we've done some extensive testing. I am comfortable saying that there was no breach of server or database and all account balances are 100% safe, no accounts should be effected by this issue it only effects us.

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Quote from: Associates on November 17, 2014, 09:47:15 PM

Could an admin or moderator of the website please unmute me on PrimeDice? I have been muted for over 2 days and i already sent an email in.

User : Associates

Why did they muted you?
Try to message support or Stunna here.
Its easier that way.

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Quote from: dooglus on November 18, 2014, 01:42:45 AM

Maybe he has been using the exploit in a less obvious way for a while now on other accounts and has already won all the coins he wanted to win. This could be his fun way of "reporting" it.

Could be doog knowing how some hackers are
Just taking his 40 Bitcoin commission and then showing off the trick of the trade

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