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Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 02:08:13 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 25, 2014, 02:05:10 PM

Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 02:01:32 PM

Sadly that means that I cant really verify all of the rolls automatically. Sad

I'm not familiar with the PD API, but I expect there is a way to change your server seed using it.

So all you would need to do would be to change your seed after every roll, revealing the previous seed.

Or you could do that every N rolls instead.

No, I was using using the API for something else Tongue

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Underground API usage lol.

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Quote from: dooglus on August 25, 2014, 02:05:10 PM

Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 02:01:32 PM

Sadly that means that I cant really verify all of the rolls automatically. Sad

I'm not familiar with the PD API, but I expect there is a way to change your server seed using it.

So all you would need to do would be to change your seed after every roll, revealing the previous seed.

Or you could do that every N rolls instead.

No, I was using using the API for something else Tongue

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Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 02:01:32 PM

Sadly that means that I cant really verify all of the rolls automatically. Sad

I'm not familiar with the PD API, but I expect there is a way to change your server seed using it.

So all you would need to do would be to change your seed after every roll, revealing the previous seed.

Or you could do that every N rolls instead.

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Quote from: dooglus on August 25, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 01:32:39 PM

Sorry, I made a big mistake.

I was using the primedice api, and when I get the information of a bet, it gives me the SHA encrypted version of the bet, and not the unhashed version.

Not sure why that happens, but I think @stunna should change it so that the unhashed version is sent VIA the API. If for some reason people wanted the hashed version, they can easily do it themselves.

In PD3 the same server seed is used for all of your bets until you ask for it to be changed. If you look at the 3 screenshots in my previous post you'll see that only the nonce (the number at the end of the client seed) changes - the seed is the same. That allows you to be sure there's no funny business going on.

In PD2 the server seed changed with every bet you made, which was open to abuse by the site if you didn't change your client seed unpredictably every roll.

I made a new version of the verifier script which verifies a range of rolls with a single click:

http://jsfiddle.net/qv30b62u/embedded/result/

Here it is verifying my 6 rolls - see how it generates the same rolled numbers?

Ahhh. Thanks.

Sadly that means that I cant really verify all of the rolls automatically. Sad

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Quote from: nahtnam on August 25, 2014, 01:32:39 PM

Sorry, I made a big mistake.

I was using the primedice api, and when I get the information of a bet, it gives me the SHA encrypted version of the bet, and not the unhashed version.

Not sure why that happens, but I think @stunna should change it so that the unhashed version is sent VIA the API. If for some reason people wanted the hashed version, they can easily do it themselves.

In PD3 the same server seed is used for all of your bets until you ask for it to be changed. If you look at the 3 screenshots in my previous post you'll see that only the nonce (the number at the end of the client seed) changes - the seed is the same. That allows you to be sure there's no funny business going on.

In PD2 the server seed changed with every bet you made, which was open to abuse by the site if you didn't change your client seed unpredictably every roll.

I made a new version of the verifier script which verifies a range of rolls with a single click:

http://jsfiddle.net/qv30b62u/embedded/result/

Here it is verifying my 6 rolls - see how it generates the same rolled numbers?

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Quote from: dooglus on August 25, 2014, 01:29:47 PM

Quote from: nahtnam on August 24, 2014, 07:59:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 24, 2014, 05:17:57 PM

http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/PrimeDice

@dooglus that code is no where near working. I tried a few different rolls, and they were all computed wrong.

That means either every roll on PD is not provably fair (unlikely) or the JS is wrong (much more likely).

I think you might be using it wrong - it works for me (although it's annoying that it will only verify one roll at a time).

I made some bets to test it out, then revealed my server seed:

- snip -

Sorry, I made a big mistake.

I was using the primedice api, and when I get the information of a bet, it gives me the SHA encrypted version of the bet, and not the unhashed version.

Not sure why that happens, but I think @stunna should change it so that the unhashed version is sent VIA the API. If for some reason people wanted the hashed version, they can easily do it themselves.

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Quote from: nahtnam on August 24, 2014, 07:59:05 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 24, 2014, 05:17:57 PM

http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/PrimeDice

@dooglus that code is no where near working. I tried a few different rolls, and they were all computed wrong.

That means either every roll on PD is not provably fair (unlikely) or the JS is wrong (much more likely).

I think you might be using it wrong - it works for me (although it's annoying that it will only verify one roll at a time).

I made some bets to test it out, then revealed my server seed:

Then I verified the first two rolls and the last one:

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Quote from: nicemycoin on August 25, 2014, 10:54:03 AM

Quote from: nicemycoin on August 20, 2014, 10:53:12 PM

Quote from: Stunna on August 20, 2014, 07:03:55 PM

Quote from: nicemycoin on August 20, 2014, 03:18:19 PM

hi,
excuse me!
Payments(7.17 to 8.17) haven't received!will you plz check it !

What is the amount owed and what is your address, can verify it soon.

at least 90 posts with member signature,and the bitcoin address:189BueK9JAEesSDomHbnkedha7bcRxor53

hi,stunna,don't forget this!

Wouldn't it be easier to PM him rather than discuss it in the wrong topic?
At least use the thread made for discussion about the signature campaign!

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received,thx to stunna.

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Quote from: Stars on August 25, 2014, 01:52:04 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 01:47:28 AM

Quote from: Stars on August 25, 2014, 01:44:08 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 12:30:14 AM

Quote from: jjc326 on August 24, 2014, 06:21:40 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 24, 2014, 12:56:15 PM

Quote from: LtPaxIV on August 24, 2014, 12:54:14 PM

so its a bug i found?

I found it first Wink

Btw where is my bounty for this Huh

Quote from: Stunna on August 10, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 10, 2014, 10:58:32 AM

Can I see faucet level amounts somewhere?

And why I can't do this bet? Huh

Will fix this, for some reason you can only do roll under on this bet, just need to change a parameters.

Thanks for letting us know

None posted right now, I'll get a list for later. Right now we are still determining if we want to keep or boost each level.

I reported this like a week ago and I was told it was already reported. Who knows, they could just say everything is already reported.

Yeah...
I reported it 14 days ago.
(as you can see from quote timestamp)

@Stunna, can I get bounty for this?

I'm pretty sure you only get a bounty when it's extremely serious.

Incorrect.
There is bug bounties paid mostly for cosmetic "bugs".
And total of more than 0.4btc.

Oh, interesting.. I did not know that.

And that is actually more than just cosmetic so I would really expect some kind of bounty Wink

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Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 01:47:28 AM

Quote from: Stars on August 25, 2014, 01:44:08 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 12:30:14 AM

Quote from: jjc326 on August 24, 2014, 06:21:40 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 24, 2014, 12:56:15 PM

Quote from: LtPaxIV on August 24, 2014, 12:54:14 PM

so its a bug i found?

I found it first Wink

Btw where is my bounty for this Huh

Quote from: Stunna on August 10, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 10, 2014, 10:58:32 AM

Can I see faucet level amounts somewhere?

And why I can't do this bet? Huh

Will fix this, for some reason you can only do roll under on this bet, just need to change a parameters.

Thanks for letting us know

None posted right now, I'll get a list for later. Right now we are still determining if we want to keep or boost each level.

I reported this like a week ago and I was told it was already reported. Who knows, they could just say everything is already reported.

Yeah...
I reported it 14 days ago.
(as you can see from quote timestamp)

@Stunna, can I get bounty for this?

I'm pretty sure you only get a bounty when it's extremely serious.

Incorrect.
There is bug bounties paid mostly for cosmetic "bugs".
And total of more than 0.4btc.

Oh, interesting.. I did not know that.

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Quote from: Stars on August 25, 2014, 01:44:08 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 12:30:14 AM

Quote from: jjc326 on August 24, 2014, 06:21:40 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 24, 2014, 12:56:15 PM

Quote from: LtPaxIV on August 24, 2014, 12:54:14 PM

so its a bug i found?

I found it first Wink

Btw where is my bounty for this Huh

Quote from: Stunna on August 10, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 10, 2014, 10:58:32 AM

Can I see faucet level amounts somewhere?

And why I can't do this bet? Huh

Will fix this, for some reason you can only do roll under on this bet, just need to change a parameters.

Thanks for letting us know

None posted right now, I'll get a list for later. Right now we are still determining if we want to keep or boost each level.

I reported this like a week ago and I was told it was already reported. Who knows, they could just say everything is already reported.

Yeah...
I reported it 14 days ago.
(as you can see from quote timestamp)

@Stunna, can I get bounty for this?

I'm pretty sure you only get a bounty when it's extremely serious.

Incorrect.
There is bug bounties paid mostly for cosmetic "bugs".
And total of more than 0.4btc.

Stars

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Activity: 462

Merit: 250

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 25, 2014, 12:30:14 AM

Quote from: jjc326 on August 24, 2014, 06:21:40 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 24, 2014, 12:56:15 PM

Quote from: LtPaxIV on August 24, 2014, 12:54:14 PM

so its a bug i found?

I found it first Wink

Btw where is my bounty for this Huh

Quote from: Stunna on August 10, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 10, 2014, 10:58:32 AM

Can I see faucet level amounts somewhere?

And why I can't do this bet? Huh

Will fix this, for some reason you can only do roll under on this bet, just need to change a parameters.

Thanks for letting us know

None posted right now, I'll get a list for later. Right now we are still determining if we want to keep or boost each level.

I reported this like a week ago and I was told it was already reported. Who knows, they could just say everything is already reported.

Yeah...
I reported it 14 days ago.
(as you can see from quote timestamp)

@Stunna, can I get bounty for this?

I'm pretty sure you only get a bounty when it's extremely serious.

Holdaaja

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Quote from: jjc326 on August 24, 2014, 06:21:40 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 24, 2014, 12:56:15 PM

Quote from: LtPaxIV on August 24, 2014, 12:54:14 PM

so its a bug i found?

I found it first Wink

Btw where is my bounty for this Huh

Quote from: Stunna on August 10, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 10, 2014, 10:58:32 AM

Can I see faucet level amounts somewhere?

And why I can't do this bet? Huh

Will fix this, for some reason you can only do roll under on this bet, just need to change a parameters.

Thanks for letting us know

None posted right now, I'll get a list for later. Right now we are still determining if we want to keep or boost each level.

I reported this like a week ago and I was told it was already reported. Who knows, they could just say everything is already reported.

Yeah...
I reported it 14 days ago.
(as you can see from quote timestamp)

@Stunna, can I get bounty for this?

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Quote from: Thicho on August 24, 2014, 08:18:39 PM

Quote from: Antless on August 24, 2014, 08:00:06 PM

Quote from: Thicho on August 24, 2014, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: galbros on August 24, 2014, 10:24:48 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 23, 2014, 06:55:42 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on August 23, 2014, 06:49:29 PM

Well in that case adding or implementing a timer script would work
Something like Tips to same account add to time a function of the number of tips it receives from the same user
That or can't tip same person more than once per 1 hour period.
Except for Moderators ^^ (But there are other ways around it if you think about it so its tricky)

Still easy to abuse (as you said).
Make one account, collect faucet, deposit 0.0005, make new account, collect faucet in it and send 0.000505 from first account to it then make new account and send those 0.00051 to it after collection faucet first on it and keep doing that.

It would be easily noticed in chat though.
But it would work easily with pvp.

In an earlier post Stunna said he was going to re-evaluate the faucet and I think it is clear that the "tip" feature is not being used as intended, unless Stunna wanted to make it easier to move satoshi between a bunch of alt accounts for the players on PD.

I had always thought the faucet was to give people a way to try out PD but obviously that is not it as a one time giveaway of site script would work better. Then I thought the faucet was basically a marketing angle to keep chat active, PD's chat is a lot more active than other dice sites, and I assumed that was why. Seemed like good marketing. But I don't see how going up to 10K faucet really helps this, in fact, it would make it horribly expensive.

So given that there is no easy way to stop faucet abuse in conjunction with the new tip feature I'm guessing both will have to be revised in the near future. I'd suggest picking one in the interim.

And in unrelated area, the whole VIP room for 1 BTC was just a joke.

I agree. The faucet is a great way to try out the site, but there are actually people who sit there all day claiming the faucet. It's sad.

Not everyone has money to gamble asshole. The faucet allows people who don't have money or would rather not gamble their money to be able to still have fun and be a part of the community. It's not only for trying out the site.

There's no need for name calling. I don't think stunna made a faucet available with the intention of having a bunch of lowlifes sitting there milking it dry all day. You're probably one of those people that take all of the free peppermints when you go to a restaurant Roll Eyes

you say no need for name calling and then you go and call people lowlifes. I don't think you have any idea why Stunna made faucet so stop pretending like you know what your talking about

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Quote from: Sprour on August 24, 2014, 08:25:42 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on August 24, 2014, 02:22:04 PM

when will the mobile version by live?

stunna?

I would also like to know this

Our dev has been hard at work on this for the past 1-2 days, should have something working soon. This should hopefully fix the optimization issues with certain browsers as well.

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Quote from: Joca97 on August 24, 2014, 02:22:04 PM

when will the mobile version by live?

stunna?

I would also like to know this

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Quote from: Antless on August 24, 2014, 08:00:06 PM

Quote from: Thicho on August 24, 2014, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: galbros on August 24, 2014, 10:24:48 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 23, 2014, 06:55:42 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on August 23, 2014, 06:49:29 PM

Well in that case adding or implementing a timer script would work
Something like Tips to same account add to time a function of the number of tips it receives from the same user
That or can't tip same person more than once per 1 hour period.
Except for Moderators ^^ (But there are other ways around it if you think about it so its tricky)

Still easy to abuse (as you said).
Make one account, collect faucet, deposit 0.0005, make new account, collect faucet in it and send 0.000505 from first account to it then make new account and send those 0.00051 to it after collection faucet first on it and keep doing that.

It would be easily noticed in chat though.
But it would work easily with pvp.

In an earlier post Stunna said he was going to re-evaluate the faucet and I think it is clear that the "tip" feature is not being used as intended, unless Stunna wanted to make it easier to move satoshi between a bunch of alt accounts for the players on PD.

I had always thought the faucet was to give people a way to try out PD but obviously that is not it as a one time giveaway of site script would work better. Then I thought the faucet was basically a marketing angle to keep chat active, PD's chat is a lot more active than other dice sites, and I assumed that was why. Seemed like good marketing. But I don't see how going up to 10K faucet really helps this, in fact, it would make it horribly expensive.

So given that there is no easy way to stop faucet abuse in conjunction with the new tip feature I'm guessing both will have to be revised in the near future. I'd suggest picking one in the interim.

And in unrelated area, the whole VIP room for 1 BTC was just a joke.

I agree. The faucet is a great way to try out the site, but there are actually people who sit there all day claiming the faucet. It's sad.

Not everyone has money to gamble asshole. The faucet allows people who don't have money or would rather not gamble their money to be able to still have fun and be a part of the community. It's not only for trying out the site.

There's no need for name calling. I don't think stunna made a faucet available with the intention of having a bunch of lowlifes sitting there milking it dry all day. You're probably one of those people that take all of the free peppermints when you go to a restaurant Roll Eyes

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Quote from: LabKitty on August 24, 2014, 12:00:40 PM

Today on PrimeDice High Rollers.

https://i.imgur.com/k18ZmEz.jpg

Gratulations!

Nice! I wish I could be that lucky Sad

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Quote from: Thicho on August 24, 2014, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: galbros on August 24, 2014, 10:24:48 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on August 23, 2014, 06:55:42 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on August 23, 2014, 06:49:29 PM

Well in that case adding or implementing a timer script would work
Something like Tips to same account add to time a function of the number of tips it receives from the same user
That or can't tip same person more than once per 1 hour period.
Except for Moderators ^^ (But there are other ways around it if you think about it so its tricky)

Still easy to abuse (as you said).
Make one account, collect faucet, deposit 0.0005, make new account, collect faucet in it and send 0.000505 from first account to it then make new account and send those 0.00051 to it after collection faucet first on it and keep doing that.

It would be easily noticed in chat though.
But it would work easily with pvp.

In an earlier post Stunna said he was going to re-evaluate the faucet and I think it is clear that the "tip" feature is not being used as intended, unless Stunna wanted to make it easier to move satoshi between a bunch of alt accounts for the players on PD.

I had always thought the faucet was to give people a way to try out PD but obviously that is not it as a one time giveaway of site script would work better. Then I thought the faucet was basically a marketing angle to keep chat active, PD's chat is a lot more active than other dice sites, and I assumed that was why. Seemed like good marketing. But I don't see how going up to 10K faucet really helps this, in fact, it would make it horribly expensive.

So given that there is no easy way to stop faucet abuse in conjunction with the new tip feature I'm guessing both will have to be revised in the near future. I'd suggest picking one in the interim.

And in unrelated area, the whole VIP room for 1 BTC was just a joke.

I agree. The faucet is a great way to try out the site, but there are actually people who sit there all day claiming the faucet. It's sad.

Not everyone has money to gamble asshole. The faucet allows people who don't have money or would rather not gamble their money to be able to still have fun and be a part of the community. It's not only for trying out the site.

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