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Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

Just use a vpn and then you can do as you please.

Yeah vpns are the best.

Then the aggressive Russian could probably ban the VPN services too.

Good job banning every vpn service. New ones would just spring up so it's cat and mouse. There's always tor too which they couldn't do anything about so it's futile even attempting to censor people like this but I guess governments will never learn.

Dont be surprised. Most websites ban VPNs because there is nothing but hacks left and right.

So it sucks for the people that need a VPN legitately because their country doesn't support it.

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Quote from: funtotry on March 27, 2015, 10:05:39 AM

Banning ever VPN or Proxy is impossible. New ones come up faster than you can ban one so its virtually impossible to ban ALL vpns. Also new tor nodes come up and go all the time so trying to ban all of them is very hard as well, but there are some options for banning tor ips in general.

Banning VPN runing with some protocols is do possible, there is a time when VPN with L2TP/PPTP/IPSec laied in ruins in China, the G.F.W is able to broke the VPN services. Fortunately we always have a way to solve the problem, we always have a new protocol or tools.

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Banning ever VPN or Proxy is impossible. New ones come up faster than you can ban one so its virtually impossible to ban ALL vpns. Also new tor nodes come up and go all the time so trying to ban all of them is very hard as well, but there are some options for banning tor ips in general.

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Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 11:47:05 PM

Quote from: Mist on March 26, 2015, 09:39:22 PM

Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

Just use a vpn and then you can do as you please.

Yeah vpns are the best.

Then the aggressive Russian could probably ban the VPN services too.

Good job banning every vpn service. New ones would just spring up so it's cat and mouse. There's always tor too which they couldn't do anything about so it's futile even attempting to censor people like this but I guess governments will never learn.

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Quote from: Mist on March 26, 2015, 09:39:22 PM

Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

Just use a vpn and then you can do as you please.

Yeah vpns are the best.

Then the aggressive Russian could probably ban the VPN services too.

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Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

Just use a vpn and then you can do as you please.

Yeah vpns are the best.

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Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

Just use a vpn and then you can do as you please.

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Quote from: innocent93 on March 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

Doubt the Russian users make up much volume. Probably more of a user base I think I saw Edward say in chat.

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PD has lots of players who come from Russia, while Russia government are executing the Bitcoin banning law recently, and What impact will that banning have on PD. As I know, Luckybit is rejecting America users and will this situation happen on PD to Russia users?

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 26, 2015, 09:01:53 AM

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

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Quote from: NumismaCorporation on March 24, 2015, 07:15:45 PM

No matter what happens , no matter who bails on their website and runs away with users coins , no matter how many kerpeles situation we will see. I seriously doubt stunna will ever be one of them. He will always be here , why would anyone who makes this much income (hopefully , he seems to lose a lot on hufflepuff situation but his profit should be a lot to cover that) just take the coins and run away , he is a bitcoin giant , a monopoly , he will get all of our coins anyway Cheesy

Why would he try to steal it?

There were four cashouts for a total of under 0.1BTC held for manual review, I've pushed them through. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Why would such small withdrawals need to be manually reviewed? I would think ones of that small of a size would almost always be done automatically, otherwise you would almost always be doing nothing more then reviewing withdrawal requests

99.9% of the time they are sent automatically, the hotwallet was briefly low and a few cashouts were held. This doesn't typically happen.

I know this may sound a bit private but is there a public address link where we can see the hot wallet, so we know when not to cashout and when the hot wallet is topped up?
Just curious, as I know most sites allow you to see their wallet publicly, but I can't see any info on this site.

There is some risk to actually makes this exposed, as some site only show their cold wallet not the hot wallet, showing a casino hot wallet will get the site to be a target for hacker, there is a reason why casino use up mixer to send the withdrawal, and this is why, so stunna wont risk it by showing the address for hot wallet

But as soon as you get a cashout you can see the address where the cashout came from. So isn't that public anyway?

in Primedice? no, I believe they use a mixer, so we couldnt track the hot wallet or cold wallet, if someone tracked it, this have already been a big discussion here, but I dont see them in this thread so It is safe to say that no player knows the address of PD "yet"

Good point, I hadn't really thought about mixing services. (Perhaps with some irony because I used to advertize for bitmixer

).

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Quote from: tspacepilot on March 26, 2015, 08:59:15 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

Quote from: fonenumba on March 24, 2015, 08:06:21 PM

Quote from: NumismaCorporation on March 24, 2015, 07:15:45 PM

No matter what happens , no matter who bails on their website and runs away with users coins , no matter how many kerpeles situation we will see. I seriously doubt stunna will ever be one of them. He will always be here , why would anyone who makes this much income (hopefully , he seems to lose a lot on hufflepuff situation but his profit should be a lot to cover that) just take the coins and run away , he is a bitcoin giant , a monopoly , he will get all of our coins anyway Cheesy

Why would he try to steal it?

There were four cashouts for a total of under 0.1BTC held for manual review, I've pushed them through. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Why would such small withdrawals need to be manually reviewed? I would think ones of that small of a size would almost always be done automatically, otherwise you would almost always be doing nothing more then reviewing withdrawal requests

99.9% of the time they are sent automatically, the hotwallet was briefly low and a few cashouts were held. This doesn't typically happen.

I know this may sound a bit private but is there a public address link where we can see the hot wallet, so we know when not to cashout and when the hot wallet is topped up?
Just curious, as I know most sites allow you to see their wallet publicly, but I can't see any info on this site.

There is some risk to actually makes this exposed, as some site only show their cold wallet not the hot wallet, showing a casino hot wallet will get the site to be a target for hacker, there is a reason why casino use up mixer to send the withdrawal, and this is why, so stunna wont risk it by showing the address for hot wallet

But as soon as you get a cashout you can see the address where the cashout came from. So isn't that public anyway?

in Primedice? no, I believe they use a mixer, so we couldnt track the hot wallet or cold wallet, if someone tracked it, this have already been a big discussion here, but I dont see them in this thread so It is safe to say that no player knows the address of PD "yet"

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

Quote from: fonenumba on March 24, 2015, 08:06:21 PM

Quote from: NumismaCorporation on March 24, 2015, 07:15:45 PM

No matter what happens , no matter who bails on their website and runs away with users coins , no matter how many kerpeles situation we will see. I seriously doubt stunna will ever be one of them. He will always be here , why would anyone who makes this much income (hopefully , he seems to lose a lot on hufflepuff situation but his profit should be a lot to cover that) just take the coins and run away , he is a bitcoin giant , a monopoly , he will get all of our coins anyway Cheesy

Why would he try to steal it?

There were four cashouts for a total of under 0.1BTC held for manual review, I've pushed them through. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Why would such small withdrawals need to be manually reviewed? I would think ones of that small of a size would almost always be done automatically, otherwise you would almost always be doing nothing more then reviewing withdrawal requests

99.9% of the time they are sent automatically, the hotwallet was briefly low and a few cashouts were held. This doesn't typically happen.

I know this may sound a bit private but is there a public address link where we can see the hot wallet, so we know when not to cashout and when the hot wallet is topped up?
Just curious, as I know most sites allow you to see their wallet publicly, but I can't see any info on this site.

There is some risk to actually makes this exposed, as some site only show their cold wallet not the hot wallet, showing a casino hot wallet will get the site to be a target for hacker, there is a reason why casino use up mixer to send the withdrawal, and this is why, so stunna wont risk it by showing the address for hot wallet

But as soon as you get a cashout you can see the address where the cashout came from. So isn't that public anyway?

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Quote from: Zaih on March 25, 2015, 09:50:44 PM

Quote from: waterpile on March 24, 2015, 07:21:26 PM

I think it's more a privacy issue, like CoinBase could start blocking PD withdrawals etc. Although I assume the "hot wallet" is actually just a collection of addresses that change all the time.

There is also no reason for a public cold wallet since there are no public investors risking money at PD (unlike those other sites that you mentioned.)

Pretty sure you can just get the IP of the node running the Bitcoind server to get a full list of addresses associated with PD. Or something along those lines... Know there's a way though

Yeh, definitely. What I mean is this: betcoin has (or used to have) 1 hot wallet bitcoin address. Most withdrawals went through that address. Then some coinbase accounts were frozen because of withdrawals from there. Basically I mean: they won't make it too obvious to detect, even though there are ways. Eg: it was kinda suggested that PD could have 1 public hot wallet address so people can see if it's empty or not, which would be bad.

The idea about monitoring the IP is this: connect to as many nodes as possible. You could probably connect to a lot of them, like blockchain.info does, but probably not all. Then you can probably detect the PD node after a while and you can assume most of the transaction they first relay before all the other nodes, are PD withdrawals. This isn't 100% correct though, since it will relay transactions from other nodes too and for sure you are not following all the nodes. Basically I am pretty sure coinbase doesn't and won't use this method for detecting transactions they don't "want".

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seems pd is getting alot of problems lately, I hope Stunna fixes things or he might lose some valuable customers.

I agree. This is becoming a pain a$$.
Personally, I play at bitdice more now

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Quote from: howzar on March 25, 2015, 01:37:14 AM

I think it's more a privacy issue, like CoinBase could start blocking PD withdrawals etc. Although I assume the "hot wallet" is actually just a collection of addresses that change all the time.

There is also no reason for a public cold wallet since there are no public investors risking money at PD (unlike those other sites that you mentioned.)

Pretty sure you can just get the IP of the node running the Bitcoind server to get a full list of addresses associated with PD. Or something along those lines... Know there's a way though

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:33:19 AM

I think it's more a privacy issue, like CoinBase could start blocking PD withdrawals etc. Although I assume the "hot wallet" is actually just a collection of addresses that change all the time.

There is also no reason for a public cold wallet since there are no public investors risking money at PD (unlike those other sites that you mentioned.)

As as I know it's a WALLET that holds all deposit addresses, all addresses then payout withdrawals. Wallets topped up when needed to be.
That's usually how it works (at least that's how it works on BitDice I think?)

Not really, The deposits address are not really called a hot wallet, it is just a deposit address from the players, in moneypot, the withdrawal are scrambled by paying from others deposits, if the deposit addrress was sort of low of funds needed to pay a withdrawal, then a hot wallet will send it using a mixer, this is how I believe it works, dont know if it is the same with PD

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Quote from: howzar on March 25, 2015, 01:24:00 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

I know this may sound a bit private but is there a public address link where we can see the hot wallet, so we know when not to cashout and when the hot wallet is topped up?
Just curious, as I know most sites allow you to see their wallet publicly, but I can't see any info on this site.

There is some risk to actually makes this exposed, as some site only show their cold wallet not the hot wallet, showing a casino hot wallet will get the site to be a target for hacker, there is a reason why casino use up mixer to send the withdrawal, and this is why, so stunna wont risk it by showing the address for hot wallet

LuckyBit's hot wallet has been exposed for years, I don't think they've encountered a single issue?
I guess you're right though, it would make sense to hide the hot wallet. where abouts is the cold wallet? I haven't seen a public address for that.

You are right, but I mention risk there will be always a risk, and stunna wont risk it I think, and about the cold wallet, some sites got their own policy about showing cold wallet, diggit.io and bitdice.me did show them up, but some other sites dont, so its a matter of policy from each sites

I am sure the cold wallet would be fine, as cold wallets can't be messed with unless the owner of the wallet has the paper private key stolen from them or their computer broken into, and I doubt stunna would let that happen.
I'll wait for him to come online and shed some light on the situation

Quote from: howzar on March 25, 2015, 01:24:00 AM

I think it's more a privacy issue, like CoinBase could start blocking PD withdrawals etc. Although I assume the "hot wallet" is actually just a collection of addresses that change all the time.

There is also no reason for a public cold wallet since there are no public investors risking money at PD (unlike those other sites that you mentioned.)

As as I know it's a WALLET that holds all deposit addresses, all addresses then payout withdrawals. Wallets topped up when needed to be.
That's usually how it works (at least that's how it works on BitDice I think?)

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I think it's more a privacy issue, like CoinBase could start blocking PD withdrawals etc. Although I assume the "hot wallet" is actually just a collection of addresses that change all the time.

There is also no reason for a public cold wallet since there are no public investors risking money at PD (unlike those other sites that you mentioned.)

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on March 25, 2015, 01:22:46 AM

I know this may sound a bit private but is there a public address link where we can see the hot wallet, so we know when not to cashout and when the hot wallet is topped up?
Just curious, as I know most sites allow you to see their wallet publicly, but I can't see any info on this site.

There is some risk to actually makes this exposed, as some site only show their cold wallet not the hot wallet, showing a casino hot wallet will get the site to be a target for hacker, there is a reason why casino use up mixer to send the withdrawal, and this is why, so stunna wont risk it by showing the address for hot wallet

LuckyBit's hot wallet has been exposed for years, I don't think they've encountered a single issue?
I guess you're right though, it would make sense to hide the hot wallet. where abouts is the cold wallet? I haven't seen a public address for that.

You are right, but I mention risk there will be always a risk, and stunna wont risk it I think, and about the cold wallet, some sites got their own policy about showing cold wallet, diggit.io and bitdice.me did show them up, but some other sites dont, so its a matter of policy from each sites

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