🔴 Problem with an inappropriate attitude (racism) on Bitcointalk - page 2.

nutildah

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Just an attempt by OP to silence opposition.

OP has several accounts banned for plagiarism and when he's not copy/pasting Coingeek articles into the BSV thread he engages in petty personal squabbles with BSV's critics.

His temper has gotten him in trouble several times before:

Quote from: kenzawak on September 27, 2018, 04:09:58 AM

Tough guy lol !

Quote from: KNA84 on January 20, 2018, 04:49:01 PM

Well, my word is that I delivered 8 translations. unpaid. I just want to be paid. what do you do if you work for a guy who finally does not pay you? personally I break teeth.

He even forgot to remove this from one of his translations lol (means "translated using...")

Probably the alt account of this guy :

Kna

He got busted doing fake translations before this:

Quote from: Dio Riven on January 20, 2018, 04:52:06 PM

Quote from: KNA84 on January 20, 2018, 04:47:35 PM

Quote from: Plimo on January 20, 2018, 04:41:06 PM

I don't understand why are you asking for 2000? Your threads are shit.

@plimo my discussions are as they are! if you are not happy, ignore me. return suck your droppings and let the adults work. I am not your friend.

You are pretty scammer - just took a look on your translation thread to polish -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2784827.new#new
even one word is not in polish, just the topic translated by google, shame on you please.

There's no direct blockchain evidence that kna is linked to a dozen or so other accounts that all post the same copy/paste gibberish in the same threads (BSV, CloakCoin), but you can tell they are the same from their use of big, colored fonts, and of course, their combined lack of a single independent thought.

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Quote from: ShowOff on March 18, 2021, 07:47:30 PM

You know what the "report to moderator" button does, right? Report the post to a moderator for follow up and include a little bit of information about it.
You know what a "trust system" does, right? Open your trust setting and enter the person as someone you don't trust with an "~".

If @kna does not know or does not use Report to moderator or Trust system well, two topics are helpful for him.

- Report to moderator: [Unofficial Guide] Reporting effectively
- Trust system: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

Stop arguing because you can't encourage people to support your perception in judging a piece of writing that is labeled freedom of expression. You can do this yourself if needed. Check out this option.

You know what the "report to moderator" button does, right? Report the post to a moderator for follow up and include a little bit of information about it.
You know what a "trust system" does, right? Open your trust setting and enter the person as someone you don't trust with an "~".

Both action are easy enough for you to do, I guess you just need to stop arguing that will only end in vain. The logic is that you shouldn't always resort to feeling when someone doesn't like something they don't like. He is free to give judgment, freedom of expression, free speech and you just have to take the middle ground and you are free to ignore it.

Now what would you say, would you also say I racist you just because I don't support your perception ?

Commie

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I read it twice. Than three times. Then I read his another post. You know what, it must be you steering up racism stuff, not the guy you quoted. Offended? Grow yourself a pair. Or here's option B: how about a ban on posting people's pictures on the forum so guys like you can't read comments below and claim these comments are racist. Ridiculous? Well, exactly.

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Quote from: kna on March 17, 2021, 06:34:45 AM

Problem with an inappropriate attitude that is an attack on a person with black skin on Bitcointalk

You're the one who brings up his skin color, Cryptotourist only mentioned his face.
Why do you think (verbal) attacks on Bitcointalk are only allowed to people who don't have a black skin? That seems quite racist Roll Eyes

If I had to guess his profession from his looks, I'd say car seller, not doctor. And if you say you don't judge people by the way they look, I simply don't believe you.

Quote from: suchmoon on March 17, 2021, 01:00:21 PM

Nor is that post racist to begin with. People reading that post and thinking "it's because he's black" probably are.

People are so sensitive and overly trying to protect others, that they don't even realize their own actions are racist. Not that it matters, the word "racism" is overused anyway.

Did someone on the internet offend you? Oh my, you're in for a ride! Maybe you should read some poetry!
Allow me to quote myself:

Quote from: LoyceMobile on December 30, 2019, 04:29:27 PM

It's okay to offended people! Offensive jokes are often funny. Don't let SJW decide what you're allowed to say or even think!

Trying to be nice doesn't hurt you, but don't let someone's made up feelings stop you from speaking your mind.

Quote from: JeromeTash on March 18, 2021, 04:17:30 PM

I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

People choose to feel offended because they think it gives them special rights. Or snowflake point of some sort.

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Freedom of expression is fine, but discriminatory measures and attacks on the person are all forms of offences that have as their motivation or effect to harm the physical or psychological integrity of others is clearly justiciable and can lead to financial penalties, so Bitcointalk could "have" a certain "responsibility" by letting this kind of behavior repeated without the slightest distancing, sanction, penalty undertaken against users who do not respect the law.

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It is outrageous to read such behavior, as if this forum is a vent for repeated insults (see its user history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptotourist-2461690) slander, disrespect are very often invoked.

I don't even know how people get offended by such remarks. If someone or a troll makes such remarks, just ignore them and see if it will break a single bone in your body.

This is the internet and worse still. It is a forum full of anonymous individuals. Why would you feel bad or affected just because some random individual who doesn't even know you just made what you felt like was an insult?

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Quote from: kna on March 17, 2021, 06:34:45 AM

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We have seen countless of dramas here especially when you go to the Reputation Board, and these kind of insults has been one of the topics, it's not appropriate for a ban, as the only thing you can do here is to ignore the guy.

rosenbauer02

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It is not actually a racism but a pure bully and judgemental act of that user.

Well, we can meet a lot of that kind of user here in the forum. Trust me there are many in the likes of them here but you should not take them seriously. Thermy are just nothing to worry about if you get bullied. Remember that digital world is prone to this kind to act fast and easy just a click away then the whole world will going to know how yoi had been treated by the others.

In that case as what the OP had stated, it is clearly nothing against racism but the user was bully and judgemental. So, there is nothing to worry about racism. I know that the we come to fair when it comes to races and no race is above of the other. What important is how you do and achieve things just take Ex President of the USA Obama which has gone achieving extra miles for his countrymen. I even look up to that man and he has my snappy Salute!

Pmalek

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I have read it a few times but I can't classify this as a racist remark. If the picture didn't show a black man and instead showed a white guy, would you have made this thread? Someone even commented in the thread you linked to that Cryptotourist (the person who wrote the comment) is black himself. Whether or not he is, I don't know.

This is the Belgian Minister of Heath:

She is a doctor, but to me that is not the face and body I have in my mind when I think of health, fitness, or nutrition. Whether she is white, black, male, or female does not affect my opinion on that matter. Google Maggie De Block if you want to see more of her pictures. Maybe she is a terrific physician and looks the way she does due to health problems, but my first impression wouldn't be this is a doctor and health enthusiast.

Maus0728

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He clearly admits that he is not referring to the skin color of the guy in the poster but rather to the nature of the project itself which seems to be a fraud.

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Just how retarded you can get, it remains to be seen.
I was not referring to the color of his skin of course, but rather to that look! The Nigerian Prince look, if you know what I mean.

Which leads to this.

Quote from: https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-2019/nigerian.html

the “Nigerian prince” scam, also known as the “419” scam (named for the section of Nigeria’s criminal code dealing with fraud),

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Obviously, the OP, if you look at his trust, is another character who is looking for a scandal on the forum.
Therefore, one should not pay any attention to such provocations. There is a lot of insults here every day, and how to react to this is everyone's personal business. There is always a button "ignore", and if everything is really complicated, there is a button LOGOUT.

onecall123

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You can't determine the actual footage either the remark is an improper mentality or not. Every individual posses different perspective regarding this topic and we can't underestimate none of the things. I feel somehow OK regarding the comments, since here almost everyone holding sarcastic manner. However, I truly go against with the word of "racism".

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Quote from: Poker Player on March 17, 2021, 02:05:30 PM

Do we have to think they are racist comments because they are directed to a black person? Because they are two different things. One thing are derogatory comments to a black person and another thing are comments to that same person for the fact of being black.

Obviously what the screenshot portray is not good but as you can see there is no direct comment about the racism as there is no foul or concrete and direct hit to the photo. OP is the one interpreted as racism this case but you can noticed yourself that it's not.

What could be done here better is ignored the guy commented and move on. It's not like racism is added on the rules to be followed but to be a good user here it's just simply common sense not to be like that. Right?

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There's always going to be something like this everywhere, especially on the internet. No one is saying that "that comment" is okay, but it's generally Cryptotourist's opinion on how that person looks. Knowing that Forums are for discussion, mostly, arguments would go against your view, and you might feel attacked on it. And again, there's no specific reason that it is a racist remark, but those who interpret it like that will think that it's a racist thing.

You can always report to the moderator if you feel like it needs to be deleted, but it would depend on the moderator whether or not he/she will delete it once reported.

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Quote from: Poker Player on March 17, 2021, 02:05:30 PM

Fortunately, there are several opinions that do not see racism anywhere, because I do not see it and I thought that maybe I had not noticed it for some reason.

You probably didn't notice it because you're not constantly focused on identity politics and race issues like so many people are these days. It's fine to be anti-racist, but in the end you're not going to change someone's viewpoint and IMO censorship isn't the answer--especially for an ambiguous comment like the one in the OP.

Quote from: mk4 on March 17, 2021, 07:44:29 PM

With that said, seriously, just report the reply and move on.

In this particular case I wouldn't even report it, especially since racism isn't moderated on this forum. Members are generally free to say things that might offend you, and as long as they're not blatantly trolling the moderators aren't going to do anything.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 17, 2021, 12:32:15 PM

Race wasn't mentioned in that comment, though I can see how you'd think it was made because the guy is black.

Yea, this. I really don't know and I'm definitely not defending him/her, but the dude might've said the same thing if it was the case that a white/asian guy was in the pic.

With that said, seriously, just report the reply and move on. I'm not saying that it's ok, but some people are simply a-holes especially knowing that we're in a pseudonymous forum.

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Fortunately, there are several opinions that do not see racism anywhere, because I do not see it and I thought that maybe I had not noticed it for some reason.

Do we have to think they are racist comments because they are directed to a black person? Because they are two different things. One thing are derogatory comments to a black person and another thing are comments to that same person for the fact of being black.

There is a trend that started in political correctness but it is going too far now.

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Quote from: kna on March 17, 2021, 06:34:45 AM

What do you think? What can the moderators do here? Ban him this user?[/font]

Quote from: Mauser on March 17, 2021, 08:34:11 AM

It is 2021, racism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere on this world, online or offline.

Racism is not moderated on this forum. You can report it as trolling but it is very unlikely to be deleted.

Nor is that post racist to begin with. People reading that post and thinking "it's because he's black" probably are.

dkbit98

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I honestly don't see any racism in his post, and that BSV topic is self-moderated junk, so good luck getting something done, but hey maybe you can ask CSW Faketoshi to remove it in his free time when he is not chasing and suing Bitcoin developers for hosting BTC whitepaper.

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This is not a post that deserves to be moderated. If you go to the "off-topic" section you will find many discussions full of hate against a religion. Check out the user Sputnik for example to see what I mean

Perhaps it's because the guy really looks like an imbecile, perhaps because he thinks the vaccination program is just propaganda, who knows. You're the one who started to think about black.

If we listen to everyone, we couldn't even say: "shut the hell" up without being accused of something

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