Topic: [Project Development] CoinWorker.com - earn bitcoin in your browser in minutes - page 11. (Read 38469 times)

Does this mean more/better tasks or is it irrelevant?

I mean, is it some requirement from CrowdFlower, or just to discourage misuse?

Btw, congrats and keep up the good work 

I've had to add a registration/login requirement and clearer terms of service to deal with some abuse.

Once registered, if you're sure to do your *first* work as a registered user with a preferred address/extended-address you've used before, your worker history/reputation will carry over to your login account.

I'm sure I'll need to iron out some bugs from this transition, but it then should be easier to set a personal preference on pay-frequency/thresholds.

Please let me know any glitches or problems you see (separate from those that need to be reported direct to task authors). Thanks!

{Warge

I love this project!
I am sure we need to get China, Africa and the like onboard for Bitcoin to unfold its full potential.
This is a brilliant idea to step in there!

/subscribing

Ente

Different tasks can be shown per region, though I haven't yet noticed tasks that were clearly targeted for lower-income regions.

The task-assignment back-end from CrowdFlower can definitely track worker histories, and show special rates or tasks just to some workers, so future targeting based on preferences/aptitudes/qualifications is likely.

I, too, would really like to see uptake in places where these rates could make a big difference for people. So far, though, the most traffic appears to have been from North America/Europe/Australia... probably because of general trends in bitcoin awareness. Also, many of the tasks require not just fluency in English but also some familiarity with the digital/commercial culture of wealthy countries.

But, the whole field of microtask crowdsourcing is still fairly young and I expect a broadening of the task-types and contributor base over time, as everyone gradually adjusts to what's possible.

{Warge

I've had issues with some of the training tasks, also. All I can say is leave a brief 'incorrect or unfair' comment and move on to other jobs/tasks.

I have noticed jobs that were rough at first -- with unclear instructions, super-low points, dubious training data, difficult interfaces, or glitches/blanks in actual work data -- come back later with improvements or even higher payment rates. So whenever something is confusing or disqualifying workers, there are incentives for that to be fixed.

Sometimes either time or a reformulation of the job lets previously disqualified workers back in, so you can keep checking back if the job is otherwise of interest.


That's been the top feedback recently and new options for fewer larger payments are coming soon.

{Warge

Neat idea! Seems like a nice way to pass the time and get some BTC in the process. :3

Ran into another problem with a task. This time it's a 15 point offer for searching some casino on Google. The task asked if I found it on the first 5 result pages, which I did not. So I selected no and hit submit, but the task insisted I have to provide their phone number and visit the page. So I googled more to find the casino (tigercasino) and visited it. After adding their phone number the task still complains. I even went so far as to install their casino software in a virtual machine; still the task won't accept my submission.

To me it seems as if the higher paying tasks try their best to get a job done without paying for it simply by complaining about non-existent problems. I guess the task provider simply hopes that users won't go into a lengthy email discussion just to get a few cents, especially when the user has to deliver proof of his work.

If more such questionable tasks appear, users will quit working because of such hassles with the task provider.

Btw, is the "Contributor Id" listed in the help menu unique to a worker? So in case crowdflower acknowledges a complain and pays points to this id, will I receive the bitcoins for it?

I'm really excited about the potential for people in the third world to make decent livings doing coinworker. $1/hour isn't worth it in the States, but in Africa $1/hour is a decent living.

It would be nice though if there were varying jobs with different skillsets. That way people of assorted backgrounds and capabilities could do tasks that are more challenging. These are just tedious for westerners.

Plans for expansion?

I did some 13 point relevancy tests and the system complained about a few of my choices, even though they were perfectly correct. Like, when searching for a cell phone a result was a plastic case. I categorized it as an accessory but the system told me that's wrong and that the cover is a perfect match (meaning it is the cell phone). In the end this caused my rating to drop below the minimum and barred me from doing more of these tasks although I always gave a short explanation every time.

Does anybody read those comments at all, or am I permanently blocked from this task now?

Also the system pays out too fast. I keep receiving tiny transfers but would prefer less, yet bigger ones instead. Or the payment trigger button that was suggested in the other thread.

Some tasks have a ridiculous low payment ("Categorize Twitter Users"). You're expected to do all sorts of searches to categorize each user and get only 1 point for 2 users.

Thanks! I'm happy to see the site referred along to anyone with an interest, and I think that discussion helped contribute to yesterday being the second-highest day of visits in the site's history.

(I'm taking other intentional promotion slowly, though, to ensure traffic doesn't outstrip the supply of tasks, my bitcoin payment reserves, or the serving systems. So far, so good!)

{Warge

If you wanted advertising, I managed to get a large community using it during a discussion of the dark net.

Only made like eight bitcent for an hour worth of work, but it's better than nothing.

newbie jail FTL

I will tell you the truth. If some website implemented this type of thing in lieu of a captcha, I would do everything I could to avoid using that website's services.

I already hate the captcha. Making verification a longer and more annoying process isn't going to make the web more secure, just more annoying. The hackers never have problems getting around this stuff, just normal folks.

I'll do it for money tho

If you're not satisfied with the pay, don't do the work. CoinWorker was obviously not meant to be a full time job.

love it !! way better then those crappy survey sites

Even FB pay there third world moderators upto $0.64per/hr from my calculations you are only paying £0.24per/hr 

Is this service just for people who live in the third world who can get free internet and free PC access.  I just tried this service out and there is no it would even pay for the electricity used by my PC never mind my country's basic living wage of £7.20per/hr or even the minimum wage of £6.20per/hr 

FYI, CoinWorker's hosting service (Heroku) is having some issues, so the site has been mostly unreachable for almost the last hour.

(It's not specific to CoinWorker... it's affecting many of their customers.)

I'll update both here and @CoinWorking when there's a resolution.

UPDATE (1h15m later): Service is back up but recovery of hoster may still be touch-and-go (http://status.heroku.com). For now, CoinWorker is again offering new work and catching up on prior earning reports/payments.

{Warge

Fair enough.
The reason I asked was because the first time a payment didn't appear on the website instantaneously was also the first time I used an extended address, so I though the two might be connected.

EDIT: After waiting ~7 hours for my payments, I decided to try completing a task with my non-extended address. Once I finished, all the money I earned in the past 7 hours (4*3, 1*4) immediately appeared as a single payment on the website.

EDIT2: Everything seems to be working properly now.

There was a bug where Extended Addresses were still just registering for tasks as the plain address. That should be fixed now: if you force-reload any tasks pages that were reached via the 'Extended' form, they should start the proper identity.

Any tasks completed as 'Extended' during the last hour or so would have just been treated as plain address tasks.


This sort of glitch could be reported via the top-right 'Help'->'Give Feedback' link to get the attention of those who craft the task interface. You can include your 'Contributor ID' on such feedback to help them look up your recent sessions.


I thought all tracked errors would get coaching, but I'm not sure. I've seen or heard of a few cases of inconsistency in error-reporting. If you notice the issue recurring, I would also suggest mentioning it along with your Contributor ID via the 'Help'->'Give Feedback' link. 


While earnings will often appear in seconds, and be paid in minutes, the actual delay before task completion is reported to CoinWorker can sometimes be much longer. The task back-end FAQ (accessible via the 'Help' -> 'FAQ' dropdown in the task pane) says: "Typically, there is a slight delay between submitting your answers and receiving your reward on our tasks. That delay may be as small as 15 minutes or as long as two days after offer completion." In operation so far, it's usually seemed to be way less than 15 minutes, except on a couple occasions where there seemed to be a pause that was later caught-up on.

If they don't appear soon, DM me your pay-address and I'll look more closely to see if they were mis-logged somewhere else.

Thanks for the detailed reports and patience as I work out the glitches!

{Warge