Topic: [Project Development] CoinWorker.com - earn bitcoin in your browser in minutes - page 14. (Read 38469 times)

i see! following your twitter.

Thanks for the encouraging words!

@Vorksholk, I believe the main reason for the limited number/variety of tasks is that I'm still in a testing/development status with the task provider (CrowdFlower). I'm a bit different from their usual partners, so it may take a while (and even some adjustments to the service) to access the full variety of tasks. But when that's achieved, there should be a relatively nonstop (and diverse) collection of tasks to choose from.

I am totally in tune with the idea of this being a way for other sites to assess a small 'toll'/donation on people before registering/proceeding. In fact, that was part of the genesis for the whole idea: for another site, I wanted a sort of 'super-CAPTCHA' that would mean people had to put a samll amount of real money/effort into things before becoming a full registrant, so that they couldn't create mischief throwaway accounts. But, I didn't want the whole overhead of (for example) credit card charges/chargebacks/etc. The ideas of -- (1) requiring bitcoin; and (2) giving people who didn't have bitcoin a way to get it -- flowed from that need.

So I would love to see websites that say, "your account will be active once address 1################## receives 0.2btc" -- and if someone doesn't have BTC handy, because in all honesty getting your first BTC is somewhat challenging -- they can come to CoinWorker.com and do 0.2btc worth of work to proceed.

I hear you on the SEO -- but all my potentially promotional/SEO activities are on hold until I'm sure I have a good flow of tasks. I don't want people's first experience to be "tasks not available", if I can help it. When that's solved, I'll be doing SEO and other promotion.

And, good point about malformed addresses. Fixing that with better validation is on my to-do list.

@'Player 3', it's currently unpredictable when new tasks become available. As noted above I hope when my status with the task back-end stabilizes, it will be rare for there to ever be no tasks. When I notice a long drought ends, I'll tweet it at the @CoinWorking account.

@boxbox10, the 'point values' are essentially $USD cents values from the entity that wants the tasks done, minus the CoinWorker commission (currently 10%, may vary). In the future, the point value might improve for more 'mature' worker addresses -- both I and the task provider benefit from long-lived addresses with stable reputations for quality work. Also, if I can manage exchange-rate risks, the tasks might be quoted in ' estimated mBTC'/milliBit (1/1000 BTC) values. (For example, a 22 point task would be instead "39 mBTC" at current exchange rates.) For now, I haven't done this because it's still easier for many people to think in $USD cents.

There's nothing to stop a fast efficient worker from answering all the tasks: the task-providers and I both want as much done, as quickly as possible, as long as it's done with due care and attention. So if you see (in the 'recent' log) one address, it means that one address has been continuously active while others have not.

Thanks again for all the feedback and CoinWorking!

{Warge

ok, it's out of task at the moment, but how do you define the points per task?

what stop people from answering all your tasks, i see the recent coinworking all used the same btc address?

How often do these tasks update, and what time is it, normally?

Just want to say that this is an amazing product/service! It's really easy to use, time-efficient (Clocked in over 2 BTC with just over an hour and a half of work), and fun seeing your balance update in real-time. Great work, Warge, this project has some great promise.

The only roadblock (aside from underexposure, easily fixed) I see for this service is the shortage of work, such as the recent 18hr+ shortage (which I understand isn't your fault, Warge, but simply crowdflower doesn't provide jobs on a regular basis), which would hopefully improve as you get to be a longer customer with crowdflower and get more hits on your website.

Just as you use a CrowdFlower API to pull jobs and display them, I see at least a niche in the market for your own API. So far, your product seems pretty unique, no other mTurk-type work with BitCoin payout that I know (although I have heard of one proposed on another forum), meaning you might be able to capitalize on your own API, for people to embed in websites for donations, etc. (Such as embedded in a website for a gaming server that a player can log onto and drop a few minutes mining 0.1 bit coins as a server donation instead of spending real money) although I have no idea how possible this is being that you are already pulling from a proprietary API yourself. Just an idea.

As well, I noticed your website doesn't have too good of SEO (a search for CoinWorker on google has irrelevant results before your actual website, and BitCoin-related searches don't pull up your website.) Getting some better SEO may prove very beneficial, helping this awesome project go main-stream.

While this doesn't really currently work for a steady income, it is great to pick up some spending cash (especially when coupled with services to buy steam games with BitCoins), and might be marketed in such a way to entice people who would like to, for example, beef up their gaming library (if you are going to consider buying and placing advertisements) or buy some music online.

As well, it's awesome your keeping up with your growing community on Twitter, helps a lot to be able to ask/communicate directly with a developer.

A quick bug with your system (only a problem for people who don't quite get it) your system doesn't check on submission of a BitCoin address whether it is malformed or not (might want to at least check to make sure it is 34 characters) as a user can unwittingly enter a real address, name, or something else without receiving an error about their submitted "address".

The UI feels polished and works nicely, anyone should be able to figure out what to do quite quickly, very good for a website aimed at more of a general audience.

I agree with Vitality:
Swagbucks (and many other sites, for that matter) offer a lot more tasks and options, again I don't know how crowd flower distribution works, perhaps it's based on how many tasks have been completed through you before? Anyhow, if you have any control over the tasks that you have on your website, of course the more the better, and all with good time I'm sure they'll arrive .


At any rate, awesome service, awesome site, and very few bugs of any sort.
Keep up the good work! Really like this site, but you definitely need a larger variety of tasks which I know crowdflower currently offers.

Are you familiar with Swagbucks?
They have a tasks section that comes from crowdflower and there are 15+ different tasks currently available.
CoinWorker would be a lot more competitive if it could offer those tasks.


Also wanted to say, to deal with the inherent problem with startups of underexposure, might want to put this on the bitcoin wiki (under something like earning or mining) just as simply a helpful inclusion to the growing list of other services (most very inefficient for earning).

Made 1 BTC in about an hour. Not bad. Too bad no tasks at this moment I had some spare time.

Thanks! I didn't know Swagbucks, thanks for the pointer.

Based on discussions with CrowdFlower I am hopeful that I can eventually offer the larger collection of tasks, but it's too early to say when that could happen.

{Warge

Keep up the good work! Really like this site, but you definitely need a larger variety of tasks which I know crowdflower currently offers.

Are you familiar with Swagbucks?
They have a tasks section that comes from crowdflower and there are 15+ different tasks currently available.
CoinWorker would be a lot more competitive if it could offer those tasks.

The payment machine today started suffering from an intermittently flaky net connection, which can both slow the recognition of the amount due, and the bitcoin-propagation of the payment transaction.

FYI, even when all is well, the bitcoin txid appears at CoinWorker.com as soon as the transaction is composed and offered to peers. It will usually be an additional few minutes before it appears at any third-party log (like blockexplorer.com or blockchain.info), and then perhaps even tens of minutes more before it lands in a block.

Still, any 2 hour delay was almost certainly a result of some new net problems here, and I'll be working on smoothing those out tomorrow. (In the event of delays of any length, we'll catch up in a batch when all's fixed.)

{Warge

Just tried this. After more than 1 hour, the status is showing up as paid, but in the txid link it's showing up as an Error: "No such transaction".
http://coinworker.com/activity/...address...

Update: After 2 hours, problem seems fixed.

And now, more 22-point tasks are available: "How relevant/satisfactory are these search engine results?"

{Warge

New 5-point tasks are available: "Search for Official Websites and Facebook Pages Groups In The U.S.A."

No word yet on a greater variety of tasks.

{Warge

interesting concept
cant wait to give it a try after you get some new tasks.

It turns out I'm still in a limited-trial mode with the task-provider. So, there's hope of a more-reliable volume and variety of tasks in the future.

I'm working on the next steps and will update this thread when there's more info -- or new tasks of any kind!

{Warge

Gotta get some more jobs! This is a great service. I made over 1.4 BTC in about an hour when it first came out, doing the local search engine rating thingy. Besides, that was actually pretty fun to do.

I did one of those 5 point jobs last night.. let's just say I'm not giving up my day job yet 

Watching the available tasks through the period of my own internal testing, 5 points (currently ≈0.008btc at 6.25usd/btc) is the lowest I've seen offered.

I've most often seen 15 points (≈0.024btc), with occasional 22 points (≈0.0035btc) or 31 points (0.049btc) tasks.

Supposedly, acquiring a strong track record may make an individual identity eligible for bonuses and higher-value tasks, but my experience with the task source isn't long enough to even know what that would look like, to a CoinWorker.

One interesting task I saw earlier, that hasn't recurred in a while, was a bit like the local-search-results-assessment, but for e-commerce searches (with product photos) within certain product categories.

{Warge

Yay, a task finished. However, the reward for the only task there is right now is really low, only 0.008 BTC for finding the website and FB pages of 9 organizations.

So sorry we're out of tasks!

I hope that will change by tomorrow. In the meantime I've added an indicator on the homepage -- both top-right of header and just before the address-entry area -- to warn when there are no tasks available.

{Warge

There are no tasks