Topic: [Project Development] CoinWorker.com - earn bitcoin in your browser in minutes - page 12. (Read 38469 times)

I created an extended version of the address I've been using for a while now, started a new task (Flag images that contain adult content) and noticed that it still showed my old accuracy (95%). Working as intended?

Sometimes some of the pictures in "Flag images that contain adult content" don't load properly, forcing you to click "zoom" on each individual picture to see it. Sort of time consuming and annoying.

EDIT: Is it supposed to inform you every time you make a mistake on a control question? Sometimes my accuracy just decreases for no apparent reason.

EDIT: I've completed 3 tasks with my new extended address, and none of the payments show up on the main page or in the address activity log.

New stuff just added:

• A new 'Extended Address' option, which lets you mix your address with a password to prevent any possible interference with your work history by others entering the same address. (There's been no evidence of that happening, but just in case!) See http://coinworker.com/extended for details.
• A Help/FAQ page: http://coinworker.com/help

And, there are now over 20 kinds of tasks available, ranging from flagging adult images (3 points) to "Search for terms and record the search results" (32 points).

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Upon checking, the best way to report this sort of thing is via the 'help' drop-down in the top-right of the tasks view, which includes a link to 'Send Feedback' -- then the report can get to the task-creators, and should be associated with exactly the job/tasks that were active around the time of the report.

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"Flag images that contain adult content (Contains mature content)"

I... can get paid for looking at pictures of naked people?

<3

This is not a big deal in the least, but just thought I'd point out this bug I've come across a few times. Here is a screenshot... It is basically where the two rolls for choices for choosing if search terms are satisfactory get kinda stuck. It's not a big deal, prob. an API problem anyhow, just thought I'd make you aware of it.
CoinFlower API glitch by RandomCoinWorker, on Flickr


EDIT: Happens when scrolling while the "slide" is changing.

I've reproduced the 'T' glitch and also have seen another weird glitch where it seemed it was dinging me for a slightly different query than I'd answered! I'm reporting both to the task-UI-managers.

Yes, now there's a very simple proper-format check to protect against misentered addresses. An update soon will include a proper check of the embedded checksum for even more protection against typos/mis-pastes.

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You can think of "points" as being exactly equal to $USD cents.

In any of the displayed earnings logs, if you hover over the BTC value of an earnings event, you should see a tooltip of what exchange rate was used to calculate that estimate/payment. For past payments, this is also shown atop the transaction-detail view.

After a while, I should be more confident of all the systems' ability to acquire/pay BTC promptly, which would mitigate my risks from exchange costs/risks. Then it's possible the tasks will just be quoted in BTC directly... or probably 'milliBits'/mBTC (1000 mBTC = 1BTC as per https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MilliBit).

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Warge, will there ever be a way to figure out the exchange rate from "points" to BTC? I think that that should be listed somewhere on the site, even if it's an estimate.

Yeah, that's why I asked if you wanted me to pursue the issue with granting too much leeway or not, figured it might have other implications, wasn't sure.

Anyhow, there is an annoying bug (not sure if it is just my system) but when I try to send feedback on a question, I end up getting a message about enabling something or another whenever I type the letter "t". Other than that, haven't had any other problems, and noticed you made it so that there is some check to make sure you entered a bitcoin address instead of a name or something, awesome

I've had a bit of trouble with some questions being marked kinda odd (or being marked one way one time or one way the other) as well, hasn't seemed like too much of an issue yet, I shall see...

During my testing, there were tasks that even with my attentive effort, I fell below the target accuracy level. So, I was disqualified from further activity in those tasks.

I could have taken issue with some, but accept that the assessment process is imperfect... the instructions aren't always great, there are going to be subjective borderline calls, task providers may rationally have a hair-trigger test for moving on to other workers (or not), etc.

(Also: with the 'predict the Academy Awards' task, I mistakenly backed out before filling it out completely... then couldn't return, so had no chance to submit it. Oh, well.)

If a certain task seems to have too many gotchas, maybe it's just better suited for another tasker... and as we get more variety of tasks it should be easier for CoinWorkers to just move on to something more suited to their understanding.

And if things behave a little different from one day to the next -- these are multilayered systems, always being tuned, always facing glitches, always having one part slowly catch up to the other. I would expect both positive and negative surprises in the task-flows over time.

(So far during the test period, at least three tasks have been mistakenly double-paid due to glitches in my software on restarts. Oh, well.)

Please don't run tests where you intentionally do tasks wrong or without thought! You'll just get your browser / IP / region / channel (CoinWorker) / etc increasingly marked as being sloppy/unreliable for certain tasks.

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To add to this, giving feedback on why a question is wrong/unfair is quite hard when typing the key "T" on my MacBook prompts the page to say something about tools activated. Want a video about this? (It'd be quick...)

Update to previous post, posted separate though:

Got to I think 63%, and it's booted me off for good, so it just seems it is a bit glitchy around the time when you are like borderline, like 71%, as well as in finishing the tests? Lemme know if you want me to pursue this further.

As well, I have taken it upon myself to take this accuracy/quality control testing one step further. Here are my results:

Did the test/prep for the 13 point "how relevant are these results". Passed the first time with 50%, but needed 2 more. Got the 2 more after being told I was wrong. Reloaded page, click on the icon for the 13-pt task, and was back in, chuggin' away. Got some incorrect, percentage went down. Percentage went down to like 71% or something. It booted me off, as expected, saying my accuracy was too low. I went back to the selection area (with the 12 and 13 point tasks) and selected the 13-point tasks again. Boom, in again, with still 71% as my percentile, but able to do more work.

There seems to be something extremely wrong with people not being able to complete results with good accuracy but still getting to go on. I'll do some more testing with even lower percentages...

I have reason to suspect this is CrowdFlower's issue, not yours, Warge, but I put in my BitCoin address, then chose the 13-point "how relevant are these items?" thing. I worked through the qualifications, got a 50% the first time (although I arguably should have gotten 100... not the point, but they said a car was very related to searching for a manual for a car, but I digress, lol) so I took it again to get my remaining 2 credits. I took it again, then go the sorry message about failing. I reloaded the page to see what I had missed this time, and it took me to the page with the choices for tasks. I clicked on the "how relevant are these items?" again, and it let me start earning. Any idea what is up with this? If this is a crowd flower issue, might want to let them know. I'll report back if anything odd happens with this not working.

Anyhow, very glad you got more tasks, that's awesome

"Tasks available"

"There are no tasks currently available, please check back later!"

Sweden.

There are some meatier tasks now: "Would you buy this item?" (12 points)

...& more likely soon.

If you don't see them, I'm interested to hear your region (via DM, Twitter, or here). (Also if you can't visit the CoinWorker.com website at all, as someone in China earlier reported, I'd like to hear your region in that case too.)

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Seems like it will be awesome

I'm guessing this is most likely a regional thing. The "tasks available" message is based on a test-request from the server (in the eastern USA), and maybe even the current task (Academy Award predictions) is locked to a US or North American audience.

If anyone having this problem reports their location/browser when this happens, I'll try to deduce a pattern so that at least the message can be correct (or simply silent, so people know to check the tasks page itself).


Thanks!

I'd highly recommend going through CrowdFlower to get bulk microtasks done, even if it means paying in non-BTC for now, because they're the experts in structuring/assessing things, and there's a benefit (for most tasks) to offer them to the largest 'crowd'.

A system that also takes BTC in payment for tasks-needing-completion is a 'someday-maybe' thing rather than any sort of plan, and if/when doing it I'd also try to leverage CrowdFlower.

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Same here. I tried a new address too just in case my old one somehow ended up with a bad rep, but I can't see any tasks.
Do you need a >0 rep to do the 4 point task?

I have the same problem as UnderGod.