Topic: Proof of dishonesty and lies from Gawminers.com Hashlet Ponzi Scheme Scam - page 3. (Read 13502 times)

Please allow me to explain that there are 4 script ASIC manufacturer in the world at the moment, in the order of product releasing: Gridseed GC3355, Innosilicon A2, Zeus & Silverfish. We have close relationship with all of them.
There are other companies probably working on it as well but they do not have a product yet, e.g. KnC & blissdevices.

Now, could you please explain what do you mean "custom hardware"? Are you talking about the "vaultbreaker"?  I don't believe GAW is capable of developing an ASIC chip themselves.
Even if they wanted to, it will not only cost a lot of money but also many months.
If you are interested, there is a really good article interviewed Gridseed CEO (in Chinese, you can use google translate to get the rough idea):
http://www.gridseed.com/news/2014/04/23/3/


BTW, do not believe the revenue figure they claimed. They just want themselves to appear big in order to attract more customers.

I PERSONALLY LIKE THE STORY LOOKING LIKE THE WIZARD OF OZ LOL. ALSO NO I AM NOT YELLING STUPID CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS STUCK SO GOT TO REBOOT TO GET IT TURNED OFF LOL SORRY OR BUY NEW KEYBOARD.

Very unprofessional way to act for someone in your position.  I doubt anyone here will use "flexhash". 

GAW has stated that they are running their cloud service on "custom hardware". 

I imagine that with the amount of revenue they have generated through asic sales, GAW is more than capable of sourcing such hardware.

Beat your competitors by being better, not by talking trash.  That's what GAW did.

OK... soon just like when you'll produce the proof you've been screaming about under various aliases. Good luck with that.

Can't you see that they do not have a mining farm big enough to support their operation? 
They announced the 750MHs miner simply because they want people to give they money.
They are not capable of and didn't even try to make a new chip. 
Why bother the hard work when they can simply get people's money by telling them lies?

Sure, sure. Time for your daily Reddit posts, you better get to it.

Proof?
Where is the 750MHs miner?
Why show a photo of a warehouse and tell people that's a mining farm?  Believe me, we know what big mining farms should look like.
Why zencloud/hashlet numbers does not make sense at all?
Spend some time read this one, it is long but should give you some more information.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.300


Also, Josh, you have not bought any miners from any of those scrypt asic manufacturers for a long time, how did you manage to support your "236GHs" cloud mining service?

One thing I am very sure, GAW does not have hardware needed for their operation.

We registered this account because we were notified that there are some heated discussions here regarding content of our website.

First of all, yes, we are preparing for a real flexible hash power leasing platform. Actually we have been in preparation for some time.

Secondly, no, we do not consider GAW as our competitor, they are just a mine reseller turned into scam.  People will find out the truth.

It is interesting to look at all these drama Josh put together.  
The 750MHs super miner... as we expected, now turned into a "virtual" one.
The recent "mining farm" photo... Well, we can all tell that's just a warehouse with Zeus Miners, no power, no network, not A2 miners.

On the other hand, we also heard some people say: GAW has been around for a few month, FlexHash is just nobody.
Well...... I will soon show them that we are not new, and we are not nobody  

https://FlexHash.com

I don't think a campaign makes a company a scam, but I also don't think it proves it's a real company. My point is that GAW is following the exact same formula that other scams and ponzi's have followed to build a league of supporters quickly. At this point, to me, they're trying to purchase loyalty with a sig campaign, as part of a capitalistic marketplace they are entitled to do that, but them doing so does not make them any more legitimate. They are entitled to try to buy customers through advertising, paid shill accounts, or whatever scheme they want to use to get people to buy from them.  They act like cheerleaders with a shirt-cannon at a hockey game, if that's what they want to do, hey go for it. I'm not buying their act of being the best thing to ever happen in cloud mining though just because they say so.

Bernie Madoff had the 18th floor of an office building on 3rd avenue (with pictures too)but  that didn't make his business legitimate though. Like I said, I do think they have some equipment, but I also think they are doing something fishy with customer deposits to be able to offer an 11% return per year.  They act like they have no obligation to tell customers what they are doing, that they have some secret sauce that allows them to always offer an ROI in the mining service, but I just don't believe them.  My own opinion with the hashlet is that you aren't really "mining" in any sense, you're investing in their infrastructure for a percentage of a return with no protections. You have to trust them, which is up to you and everyone else, but they don't get an instant prerogative of legitimacy offering investments. I'd be more inclined to believe them if they called themselves gaw-dice, and be done with it.

I would not remove my post, I would post an addendum to the post as an "update" and what the resolution was and what the terms of the settlement or resolution was. 

He states, "The conclusion is for you to decide" and while I don't agree with everything he posts, he makes a few good points. No had "proof" lunamine was a scam, but people had suspicions and I don't blame anyone for being cautious with GAW. What's a bit disturbing though is the instant and firebrand loyalty to these cloudmining companies like gawminers and pbmining. Running a signature campaign, throwing up ads, and sending out few payments doesn't automatically make them beyond reproach.

It's a little hard to prove that people have been paid to remove posts, but I'll tell you what, when I complained on the forums, I got an email from GAW saying they wanted to talk to me about some fantastic pricing they could offer me, which was not the usual emails you see (newletter, oneminer, etc) from them as a customer.

Again no proof, but where there's smoke....

I don't consider Hashtalk credible for information, it's completely run by GAW staff, posts are deleted, threads are closed when the discussion does not go the way the ownership would like it to go.

Hmmm...I bought a hashlet...except some minor hiccups with activation, so far everything looks fine - hope it stays that way :/

There's a whole thread about new hardware on hashtalk.org
All speculation should end when they deliver Vaultbreakers as promised.

https://hashtalk.org/t/vaultbeakers-come-early/7605/145

thank you CEO for taking care of my issue, A+!

WHAT on earth happen to all my posts i had on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741838.new#new    seems it went from 19 pages to just introduction post did i miss something?

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitcoin-developer-gavin-andresen-suspects-cloud-mining-operations-ponzi-schemes/


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