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February 24, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
I came across a few old quotes about religion...


A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition.
-José Bergamín

You’re basically killing each other to see who’s got the better imaginary friend.
-Blaise Pascal

If God has made us in his image, we have returned him the favor.
-Voltaire
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February 24, 2016, 01:23:47 PM
Is the world where you are living is not enough? The things that have been created that acts synchronized with others?
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February 24, 2016, 01:21:48 PM
How is that proof though
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February 24, 2016, 01:21:12 PM
Is it me or did BADecker stopped?
Did we win gentlemen?

de-programming takes years....

He cannot get out of his cause & effect non argument, yet. 

I think he already gave up on his world complexity, entropy, nothing complex comes from less complex type of non arguments.

He still equates Atheism with immorality.  He struggles with the definition of Atheism.  He probably thinks all Atheists have exactly the same world view on other, non-religious subjects. 

Like one Indian lawyer once said:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.



Winning doesn't have to do with what anyone says. Winning has to do with the truth, and who remains living for all time.

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And so if nobody lives for all time? No winner?
sad, meh...
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February 24, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
I find it strange...

The things you call truth, I call delusion

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de·lu·sion
dəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun
noun: delusion; plural noun: delusions

    an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.
    "the delusion of being watched"
    synonyms:   misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; More
    fallacy, illusion, fantasy
    "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?"
        the action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded.
        "what a capacity television has for delusion"
        synonyms:   misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; fallacy, illusion, fantasy
        "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?"

A truly delusional person does not know he/she is delusional.   All we can hope is a small time window when his delusions will subside, then maybe he can see the reality as it is, even if it is for a brief moment.  But then again, he might be far too gone to ever realize that he is in fact delusional.

Sounds similar to serial killers... the vast majority of serial killers actually believe they are good people doing good deeds (often God's work)... delusional...

I bet those dudes who flew airplanes into The World Trade Center thought they were good people doing God's work too...

Religion is a mental disorder which makes "good" people do "evil" things, all the while thinking they are "the good guys"... because... God
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February 24, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Is it me or did BADecker stopped?
Did we win gentlemen?

de-programming takes years....

He cannot get out of his cause & effect non argument, yet.  

I think he already gave up on his world complexity, entropy, nothing complex comes from less complex type of non arguments.

He still equates Atheism with immorality.  He struggles with the definition of Atheism.  He probably thinks all Atheists have exactly the same world view on other, non-religious subjects.  

Like one Indian lawyer once said:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.



Winning doesn't have to do with what anyone says. Winning has to do with the truth, and who remains living for all time.

I find it strange...

The things you call truth, I call delusion

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de·lu·sion
dəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun
noun: delusion; plural noun: delusions

    an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.
    "the delusion of being watched"
        the action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded.
        "what a capacity television has for delusion"
        synonyms:   misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; fallacy, illusion, fantasy
        "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?"
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February 24, 2016, 11:06:52 AM
Is it me or did BADecker stopped?
Did we win gentlemen?

de-programming takes years....

He cannot get out of his cause & effect non argument, yet. 

I think he already gave up on his world complexity, entropy, nothing complex comes from less complex type of non arguments.

He still equates Atheism with immorality.  He struggles with the definition of Atheism.  He probably thinks all Atheists have exactly the same world view on other, non-religious subjects. 

Like one Indian lawyer once said:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.



Winning doesn't have to do with what anyone says. Winning has to do with the truth, and who remains living for all time.

Cool
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February 24, 2016, 08:14:58 AM
Is it me or did BADecker stopped?
Did we win gentlemen?
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February 24, 2016, 08:00:28 AM
Seems like there is something that most of zealouts out there didn't understand:

It's not up to Atheists to prove the non existence of Gog. You're not going to try to prove everything that doesn't exist! It's the other way around that things work ><

Indeed. Bertrand Russell explains the reason nicely in his "Teapot" analogy.

Ahah, never heard of it but it's a great way to explain the absurdity of "God is obviously there" statement ^^
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February 24, 2016, 07:12:19 AM
Seems like there is something that most of zealouts out there didn't understand:

It's not up to Atheists to prove the non existence of Gog. You're not going to try to prove everything that doesn't exist! It's the other way around that things work ><

Indeed. Bertrand Russell explains the reason nicely in his "Teapot" analogy.
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February 24, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
Seems like there is something that most of zealouts out there didn't understand:

It's not up to Atheists to prove the non existence of Gog. You're not going to try to prove everything that doesn't exist! It's the other way around that things work ><
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February 24, 2016, 04:14:54 AM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?

I was really hoping God would be a nice guy, and let him move his arms and legs and wipe his own ass... letting him speak without a computer would be a sweet bonus

I suppose this only proves that God hates scientists

Instead God gave Hawking a brain and mind far beyond most other people. And what did Hawking use them for? To reject the God Who gave them to him.

There is still hope for Hawking. If he can stop being bitter long enough, he just might figure out that EVERYBODY loses EVERYTHING after 80 or 100 years, and some a lot sooner, and that it is not God's fault, but that it is the fault of mankind doing the exact thing that Hawking is doing... rejecting God.

So great scientifically, mathematically and logically. But so weak in them at the same time.

Cool

BADecker,

Your constant assumptions about God are really annoying.  What are you talking about?  God did not give him brain?  What do you mean?  Have you completely lost your mind?
My assumptions aren't annoying me. And they can't be annoying you, because I haven't told you any of them, yet.

What do you mean, "God did not give him brain?". Of course God gave him his brain.

How do you know that God gave him his brain?  "Of course" is not an explanation.  It is an assumption.


What do you mean: God gave him the brain?  How did he do it?  Do you have any evidence that God gave Stephen Hawking his brain?  How did he do it?  His mother gave him his body including his brain.
The proof is the cause and effect part of how everything works. You forget so soon all about the basics. How do you even remember how to type in this forum? God gave everything that everybody has to everybody who has it, through cause and effect. You seem to get denser by the minute sometimes.


Are you saying his mother is God?

All you need to do is look through my posts to see if I said that. But you can't even do that, now, can you! Your density reaches new levels that would amaze even Hawking if he saw your posts.

Cool

He got his brain (all his body) from his mother, and you said God gave him his brain, so his mother must be God according to you.

Just like God gave you everything you have through cause and effect, even so God gave Hawking his brain through cause and effect. Just like God gave your mother her part in making you through cause and effect, even so God gave Hawking's mother her part in making Hawking through cause and effect.

Wake up to the reality of science.

Cool

Yeah so cause consequence is proof of God? What a shitty theory... It's like saying "we exist hence God exist". This is nothing like proof!
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February 24, 2016, 03:28:55 AM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

And yet he could at least had the decency to come and explain why it would be a no. That he can't break physics laws like that, that it was hard enough to construct all this shit and it's not to break it all at the first crying amputee...
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February 24, 2016, 02:41:07 AM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?

I was really hoping God would be a nice guy, and let him move his arms and legs and wipe his own ass... letting him speak without a computer would be a sweet bonus

I suppose this only proves that God hates scientists

Instead God gave Hawking a brain and mind far beyond most other people. And what did Hawking use them for? To reject the God Who gave them to him.

There is still hope for Hawking. If he can stop being bitter long enough, he just might figure out that EVERYBODY loses EVERYTHING after 80 or 100 years, and some a lot sooner, and that it is not God's fault, but that it is the fault of mankind doing the exact thing that Hawking is doing... rejecting God.

So great scientifically, mathematically and logically. But so weak in them at the same time.

Cool

BADecker,

Your constant assumptions about God are really annoying.  What are you talking about?  God did not give him brain?  What do you mean?  Have you completely lost your mind?
My assumptions aren't annoying me. And they can't be annoying you, because I haven't told you any of them, yet.

What do you mean, "God did not give him brain?". Of course God gave him his brain.

How do you know that God gave him his brain?  "Of course" is not an explanation.  It is an assumption.


What do you mean: God gave him the brain?  How did he do it?  Do you have any evidence that God gave Stephen Hawking his brain?  How did he do it?  His mother gave him his body including his brain.
The proof is the cause and effect part of how everything works. You forget so soon all about the basics. How do you even remember how to type in this forum? God gave everything that everybody has to everybody who has it, through cause and effect. You seem to get denser by the minute sometimes.


Are you saying his mother is God?

All you need to do is look through my posts to see if I said that. But you can't even do that, now, can you! Your density reaches new levels that would amaze even Hawking if he saw your posts.

Cool

He got his brain (all his body) from his mother, and you said God gave him his brain, so his mother must be God according to you.

Just like God gave you everything you have through cause and effect, even so God gave Hawking his brain through cause and effect. Just like God gave your mother her part in making you through cause and effect, even so God gave Hawking's mother her part in making Hawking through cause and effect.

Wake up to the reality of science.

Cool
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February 24, 2016, 12:39:31 AM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?

I was really hoping God would be a nice guy, and let him move his arms and legs and wipe his own ass... letting him speak without a computer would be a sweet bonus

I suppose this only proves that God hates scientists

Instead God gave Hawking a brain and mind far beyond most other people. And what did Hawking use them for? To reject the God Who gave them to him.

There is still hope for Hawking. If he can stop being bitter long enough, he just might figure out that EVERYBODY loses EVERYTHING after 80 or 100 years, and some a lot sooner, and that it is not God's fault, but that it is the fault of mankind doing the exact thing that Hawking is doing... rejecting God.

So great scientifically, mathematically and logically. But so weak in them at the same time.

Cool

BADecker,

Your constant assumptions about God are really annoying.  What are you talking about?  God did not give him brain?  What do you mean?  Have you completely lost your mind?
My assumptions aren't annoying me. And they can't be annoying you, because I haven't told you any of them, yet.

What do you mean, "God did not give him brain?". Of course God gave him his brain.



What do you mean: God gave him the brain?  How did he do it?  Do you have any evidence that God gave Stephen Hawking his brain?  How did he do it?  His mother gave him his body including his brain.
The proof is the cause and effect part of how everything works. You forget so soon all about the basics. How do you even remember how to type in this forum? God gave everything that everybody has to everybody who has it, through cause and effect. You seem to get denser by the minute sometimes.


Are you saying his mother is God?

All you need to do is look through my posts to see if I said that. But you can't even do that, now, can you! Your density reaches new levels that would amaze even Hawking if he saw your posts.

Cool
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February 23, 2016, 09:24:45 PM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?

I was really hoping God would be a nice guy, and let him move his arms and legs and wipe his own ass... letting him speak without a computer would be a sweet bonus

I suppose this only proves that God hates scientists

Instead God gave Hawking a brain and mind far beyond most other people. And what did Hawking use them for? To reject the God Who gave them to him.

There is still hope for Hawking. If he can stop being bitter long enough, he just might figure out that EVERYBODY loses EVERYTHING after 80 or 100 years, and some a lot sooner, and that it is not God's fault, but that it is the fault of mankind doing the exact thing that Hawking is doing... rejecting God.

So great scientifically, mathematically and logically. But so weak in them at the same time.

Cool
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February 23, 2016, 04:11:27 PM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?

I was really hoping God would be a nice guy, and let him move his arms and legs and wipe his own ass... letting him speak without a computer would be a sweet bonus

I suppose this only proves that God hates scientists
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February 23, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either

How many Hawkings were you expecting to get?
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 722
February 23, 2016, 01:39:49 PM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3

I once prayed for an amputee to regrow his arm... it didn't work

I also prayed for Stephen Hawking, but that didn't work either
sr. member
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February 23, 2016, 01:34:20 PM
i need to speak with god any advice ?

You just need to pray and He will answer. Most of the times He answers with NO but even so do prepare yourself.

Correction:

Most of the time He doesn't give a fuck and doesn't answer to anything.
Nobody and especially Atheists ask for something positive from God. He doesn't have to accomplish a miracle to convince us.
He could just appear near us and tell us "NO"
And that would be good! No need for anything positive in fact :3
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