Topic: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing - page 10. (Read 4824 times)

Hey that reminds me, remember that "We Build The Wall" fundraisers a bunch of Magatards ran that ended up being a total scam?  Steve Bannon was scheduled to go to trial on fraud charges in May, but I can't find any updates on it in over 6 months (he's been convicted and sentenced to 4 months in prison for defying subpoena since then).

If the date is still a go, that could be a nice interlude between Trumps pornstar/2016 election fraud trial and the the 2020 attempt to steal the election trial.

In case anyone isn't up t odate, so far:

✅A jury found Trump liable and ordered to pay $5m for inserting his finger into a womans vagina without her consent (or as Trump would say "grab her by the pussy") in a NYC department store dressing room and then defaming her.  (he tried to spin this ruling as vindication because they found that he did not rape her because NY State law requires a penis to be inserted for it to be considered rape, fingers is just assault, although it could have been his penis, she wasn't sure, it was about the size of a small finger though - ok, i'm making that last bit up)

✅Another jury in a different trial ordered Trump to pay her another ~$80 million for lots and lots more defamation.  (He kept doing it during the trial, but seems to have stopped after seeing how expensive it was)

✅A jury found the Trump Org guilty of felony fraud.  (CEO went to prison, might be going back again for perjuring himself as a witness in one of his bosses trials)

✅A judge found Trump, Don Jr. and Eric Trump guilty of financial fraud and banned them all from doing any business in NY State and fined them over $400 million.

❓Trump will be tried by jury for creating a fake company to pay of a pornstar he had an affair in violation of campaign finance laws a week or so before the election.

❓Trump will be tried by jury for trying to steal the election by convincing a bunch of magatards to submit fake documents claiming they were the real electors from a bunch of states he lost, and then trying to get the Vice President to count the fake votes instead of the real ones via angry violent mob chanting "hang mike pence".

---The 2024 election will probably take place between these two trials---

❓Federal Trial by jury for hoarding tons of super classified documents, and then refusing to give them back, and then hiding them and lying about giving them back.  And also showing some of them to a journalist while lying about what they said.


❓And finally (maybe?) tthe GA Rico case, which isn't federal, where he's accused of trying to intimidate a bunch of officials into declaring him the winner of the state even though he lost, and some 100% innocent poll workers that were literally just doing their job by calling them things like "professional vote scammers" which obviously resulted in a constant flow of death threats and them having to move, go into hiding and change their appearance.  (They already bankrupted Rudy Giuliani in a defamation case)

Looks like the Deep State will need to find a new hero for this part of the Trump trials. I think that if we delve deep enough, we will find Deep State criminality that is this bad or worse in all the Trump trials.


Fani Willis’ lawyer donated to anti-Trump propaganda pushers, National Pulse reports/url]

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-02-20-willis-lawyer-donated-to-anti-trump-propaganda.html
An exclusive report by the radically independent news outlet, The National Pulse, indicated that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis's lawyer Anna Cross regularly donates to the state of Georgia's Democrat Senators, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock, as well as to President Joe Biden, and has also sent money to the viciously anti-Trump "Lincoln Project."

Cross represents Willis as well as the key special prosecutor and attorney in former President Donald Trump's 2020 election interference case Nathan Wade, who admitted to having a personal relationship with Willis. The said "demolition project for Trump" claims to be dedicated to the preservation, protection and defense of democracy."

"Since our launch in December 2019, the 'Lincoln Project' has played a unique role in American politics. We entered the political arena with two objectives: first, to defeat Donald Trump at the ballot box in 2020. (Done.) The second was to ensure Trumpism failed alongside him. We understand that the real fight against Trumpism is just beginning and we’re committed to seeing it through. Our democracy depends on it," their website stated.

Willis and Wade are currently facing disqualification from Georgia's Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) prosecution of the former president and his supposed "allies" for allegedly interfering in the 2020 presidential election. (Related: SMURFING: New complaint accuses Fulton County DA Fani Willis of illegally using people's info for CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.)

Meanwhile, Cross was also appointed as a special prosecutor on the mentioned RICO case. "While it is not unusual for attorneys like Cross, who are active in state politics, to make partisan contributions, they do typically tend to avoid supporting highly partisan non-profit groups such as 'Indivisible Action,'" Pulse reported. She also donated to the said left-cult organization that has 3,000 local groups under its umbrella. Their main purpose is to "extricate Trump from his 2024 election bid."
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Dwarf poodle Trump is recognized as fraudster and scammer by  Justice ARTHUR F. ENGORON

I mean. It is not so easy for someone like Trump to be dumped as easy, after all he has got a pretty tight power over the Republican party. For Trump to end up being dumped, it would take all of the major player within the party to do it at the same time, most of them do not like Trump anyways, are just behind him because of power and because he continue to be the future of the Republican party, at least in the coming years. But if all of them dumped him, it would be easier for him to be replaced by a normal Republican candidate and leader, some establishment republican which is worried about legislation and not whether ending up in prison for 91 indictments.

The crowdfunding is interesting by itself, by the way. It may not completely cover the legal losses of Trump, but it certainly show how many fan Trump has out there. Trumps continues to talk on how Biden has ruined the economy and trashing the country, etc. But on the other hand, I know he would be willing to accept that money, instead being coherent with his speech and demand for the money to be returned to each donator, do they can survive the alleged horrible economy which is going on.

Make sure you let us know how that fund-riser goes, I mean, if it is going anywhere given the distance between the "needs" of Trump and the shy support he is getting. Honestly, it would be much better to put there a republican that does not owe so much money that need everyone to chip into his legal bills. Just dump Trump, let his sink into oblivion and get anyone else with the same programme.

JUST dump the TRUMP

Lol. And somebody complained about $8 million in mismanaged Rep Party funds. Videos included.


MAGA fans set up $355 MILLION fundraiser to pay former president Trump's latest legal bill - with GoFundMe raising nearly $50,000 within hours of fraud verdict

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13095185/donald-trump-fundraiser-legal-bill-fraud-verdict-gofundme.html
Scientologists Elena and Grant Cardone established a GoFundMe page to help pay Donald Trump's latest legal bill.

The ardent MAGA supporters set up the page hours after the former president was ordered to pay $355 million fine for lying about his wealth for years.

'I stand unwaveringly with President Donald Trump in the face of what I see as unprecedented and unfair treatment by certain judicial elements in New York' Elena Cardone wrote on the page.

Cardone is seeking donations from supporters to cover the full cost of Trump's fine.

However, only $201,000 had been donated as of Sunday morning.

'The recent legal battles he faces are not just an attack on him, but an attack on the very ideals of fairness and due process that every American deserves' Cardone wrote. 

This is more than a legal fund,' she explained, 'it's a call to all patriots to rally in defense of a man who has never hesitated to stand in defense of us.'

The judgement on Friday found Trump, his company and executives, including his two eldest sons, schemed to dupe banks, insurers and others by inflating his wealth on financial statements.

It is the latest fallout in Trump's ongoing legal woes, that include an upcoming trial for election fraud and another for sanctioning 'hush money' payments to an adult entertainer ahead of the 2016 election.
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I have read speculation on the internet about Trump and his asset managers to be considering to liquidate some of their real state assets in order to pay for the reparations and damages of the civil trials, while they appeal, that is.
It seems that in the United States, even if you plan you appeal the decision on a civil case, then one is supposed to deposit the full damages amount of money as collateral until the appeal comes to effect. Depending on how the appeal goes, then one or the other party will get the money.
Knowing how such a sore loser can Trump be, he would rather not to sell anything to get enough collateral and appeal the judgement, he is likely to use some of his properties as collateral and ask for a loan. Which is quite ironic of we consider he is in court because the way he valuated his own properties to benefit himself.


Depending whom you ask, the American dream is over, indeed.
We are going though very strange and changeling times, I have myself talked to people who live in the United States and it seems it is pretty much a monumental work to keep oneself there, because of the price of the good and services and the small increase of the real salary. though, I have seen critically talking about the American dream can be perspectived as anti-patriotic there.

At this point, only the ones that wish to be fooled are still fooled or they simply do not care. US dream is over, it has failed to millions like it failed during the big depression of 1929. People are desperate to try anything different and the ultra-liberals in the US have found that the populism is the way to get richer, while keeping the commoners happy even eager about the stealing yet another bit of the national wealth.

Inflation is not caused by sending money to other countries.  If anything, that would reduce inflation, not increase it

Putin invaded Ukraine and refuses to stop attacking them.  Without help, Ukraine would not be able to defend itself.  They would lose all the rights that western democracies enjoy and people in countries like Russia do not.    Do you remember what the bible says about helping those in need?

"Protect the rights of all who are helpless. Speak for them and be a righteous judge. Protect the rights of the poor and needy”
Proverbs 31


By the way, have you heard Biden has created more jobs than Trump, unemployment has been lower than when Trump was in office, and after 37 months, the stock market is higher than it was ever under Trump.  Here's a look at how the stock market was at this point in the last 8 presidents terms:



PS - Did you hear about the Trump appointed special council that's been looking into Hunter Biden has made an arrest?





https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/special-counsel-charges-fbi-informant-lying-bureau-hunter-joe-biden-rcna139091



The election results, the classified documents, the financial fraud, the porn star affairs, The “Biden bribery scheme”, the list keeps going for so long....and it's obviously only going to get longer, I feel embarrassed for all those people that keep getting fooled over..and over...and over...

Lol. I should have expected you'd do the same. The same what?

Possibly you have heard a little from the Bible in the past. Do you remember this from Matthew chapter 23? Jesus speaking to the Pharisees:
So, the Republican Party has had a little mismanagement of funds. And the amounts are a handful of $millions. And we don't know that Trump even knew what was happening; he was trusting his campaign manager.

But here you go, straining out this gnat, while Biden and his regime destroy the US by sending money to Ukraine and the Middle East, causing high inflation in the US, killing off as many as 600,000 with unnecessary war, attacking America with illegals over the border, and a ton of other things... to the tune of way more than $200 billion. And now they are trying to do even more. And you want to ignore the Biden camel.

And all you can do is pick on a few paltry million, blaming a guy who did a whole big MAGA chunk of good for the country and the world.

You get more pathetic as the days go by.


Superior Court Judge just dropped a nuke on Big Fani's fanny…

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https://revolver.news/2024/02/superior-court-judge-just-dropped-a-nuke-on-big-fani/
Willis was pulling out all the stops to prevent this upcoming hearing, but the judge wasn't having any of it. Not only did he insist on proceeding with the hearing, but he also hinted that Fani might have just disqualified herself and thus ended the sham trial against Trump, thanks to her crooked ways.

Here's what Professor Turley had to say about the latest events:

It appears that Fani Willis has failed to block a hearing into her alleged conflict of interest. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee is quoted as saying "Because I think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification, I think an evidentiary hearing must occur to establish the record on those core allegations."

…Willis and Wade have more to fear than disqualification if they knowingly filed false statements with the Court. Indeed, they can look to their own case on how such filings can result in bar or criminal charges.

It's refreshing to finally see justice being served against someone many of us thought was untouchable. It's clear that the judge is not finding anything amusing about this situation or what Fani's been up to.

Lawyer Mike Cernovich chimed in with Professor Turley on Fani's alleged lies and cover-up. Mike pointed out that Fani's actions actually fall under "RICO" territory, not the fake accusations being hurled against President Trump.

Meanwhile, Revolver recently highlighted a story involving a co-defendant of Trump, who has witnesses ready to prove that Big Fani lied in court.
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People that run scam charities have to stick together...

https://www.bbb.org/us/fl/sarasota/profile/soliciting-organizations/international-union-of-police-associations-0653-90042832/customer-reviews


They promise to help families of fallen officers. But they’re mostly paying telemarketers.
A union-backed police charity spends just a sliver of its money on those it purports to serve
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/iupa-leorf-police-union-charity-telemarketers/

More and more American groups are supporting Trump. They are seeing through the sham trials.


International Union of Police Associations officially endorses DONALD TRUMP for 2024 presidential election

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-02-14-iupa-officially-endorses-trump-for-2024-election.html


The International Union of Police Associations (IUPA) has officially endorsed Donald Trump for the 2024 presidential election.

IUPA President Sam Cabral praised the former president's support for law enforcement in a Feb. 6 press release, touting how Trump "has earned and deserves our wholehearted support." He continued: "Trump's history of support for the men and women of law enforcement is unmatched. His policies and actions were directed at improving safety in our communities and the men and women who provide that shield."

The organization chartered in 1979 took a firm stance against certain aspects of Democratic policies. Cabral accused the Democrats of supporting initiatives such as defunding the police, advocating for sanctuary cities and open borders and reducing accountability for criminal behavior.

These measures, he added, have had "tragic" consequences for communities in the form of business closures and increased criminal activity. Moreover, the head of the police union also disclosed the alarming rate at which police departments are losing officers – leading to a diminished law enforcement presence.

"Roving gangs are terrorizing retail businesses, raiding them with absolute impunity akin to a thousand-year-old past – regressive rather than their own progressive ideology," wrote Cabral. "They have not dealt with the consequences of their own failed strategies, while we have all suffered."

"We firmly believe that Trump can and will address these issues effectively, while reinstating the confidence of a safe and prosperous United States of America. Trump has reminded the world of the greatness of this country, [and] he is the right person to continue to Make America Even Greater."

Trump supporters hopeful for the backing of 2 other police unions

This was not the first time the IUPA threw its support behind Trump – it previously did so in 2020. Aside from the IUPA, two other police unions – the National Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) and the National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO) – also expressed support at the time.
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Some of the costs are probably fixed, but potentially he could even argue that he has no means and get a free lawyer. However, the larger firms have huge numbers of hires from the first 10% of their classes and partners with a track record of killing it consistently (getting the veredict their way). They are many times defending corporations because suing other is kind of a sport in the US to the point that corporations assume they are going to have a few millions of legal expenses every year.

Trump is unlikely to be using cheapo boutique firm, he is not the type of guy who would go cheap on his defence... when OTHERS are paying for it.

In the US money matters a lot in the court. Having means is the difference between being killed in some prison and getting free. It is just like that.

So you are saying if Trump wanted he could have gone with a relatively small firm or to find some lawyer working independently, in either case he could have just been charged some thousands of dollars instead of the millions he owes now? Is that how it is supposed to work? Or maybe, because of the importance of the case against him and the ego he needs to feed constantly he always go and hire the best and most expensive lawyers he can find.

I personally have some doubts on whether paying as much as possible lawyers will bring the best results to the client. I don't see what is the difference of a 10k$ from some lawyers who could charge millions, either of them could defend a case equally good. Perhaps there is some system where lawyers are also valued keeping in mind the amount of years they have practiced and the number of cases they are successfully won or defended in court, that is the only explanation or logical thing which comes to my mind in this.matter of legal fees.

AFAIK, legal services are a free market in terms of fees. Lawyers have to pass a State exam of short (the bar or whatever is the case) and then they are released into the wild to either seek a public service work, open their own practice, work for whatever firms are hiring... typically the larger firms can charge ridiculous fees in the range of 1000 US per hour and the like.

I read the news on how much those lawyers are being paid for representing Trump, and in my opinion it is ridiculous the money they are supposed to be paid for their legal services. I don't know how the legal system is supposed to work in the United States, but are lawyers allowed to increase the cost of their services only based on the relevant of the case or the amount of money their client is supposed to have?
What is the variable which established the maximum or minimum price a lawyer is supposed to charge to clients? If anyone of us got involved in a legal problem in the United States and we were supposed to pay for our own legal representation, we would never be asked for literal millions of dollars.

Keeping that in mind and in a less serious note, it would be interesting and funny if Trump decided he will represent himself in court from now on, in order to save money. I don't think the judge would ever accept something like that to proceed, but dreaming is free.

will trump continue to be heard in court. while trump himself won the republican party presidential convention. which of course in the USA presidential election will be the presidential candidate of the republican party who will face the candidate of the democratic party joe biden. it will be controversial if the presidential candidate has criminal legal status, especially if he is jailed.

The legal costs of Trump are mounting to a ridiculous sum now. It all comes from the campaign funds as the guy thinks that it is ok to spend the donor's money for solving his legal problem. I guess the donor's are all right with it.

However, there is a practical problem: he is burning through cash like a C series startup led by two nerdy drunks in a back-alley illegally-occupied trashed single-room habitation. We are talking about making some of the lawyers so rich that they will be able to run for presidency themselves some days on their own funds if they wish to.

If Trumpy fills in for bankruptcy is a good result too. He is boasting that image of "self=made" big business man while "a man of the people" that is a fake as all the rest thanks - any money is thanks to daddy's shady doings. A filing to bankruptcy is another dose of reality for the Republicans to shadow.

Latest doing... asked repeatedly for a bill to stop the south border migration, and then, when Biden gets it, ordering the party to not vote it. For Trump saying something does not mean to really have to believe it.

Does he though... wouldn't be a big surprise to find out that all he has to his name is a couple of NFTs and a MAGA hat. All the other stuff is probably shielded by impenetrable layers of LLCs.