... with all your tumbler links and lack of patients to read legislation, ...
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Topic: Putin Advisor: Accepting Bitcoin Payments in Russia is a Crime (Read 2526 times)
February 06, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
lol go play with your ponies as i feel your alot younger then me, with all your tumbler links and lack of patients to read legislation, etc.. ill see you after february 20th
also charging $800 for what amounts to 3 minutes transcription once you take out the parts not related to bitcoin.. makes me think you have no clue about fair value.
and trust me your lack of insight and understanding wont even generate you $1 in transcription work,
so go play with your ponies and come back when the next draft is released
also charging $800 for what amounts to 3 minutes transcription once you take out the parts not related to bitcoin.. makes me think you have no clue about fair value.
and trust me your lack of insight and understanding wont even generate you $1 in transcription work,
so go play with your ponies and come back when the next draft is released
February 06, 2016, 10:36:41 PM
ahpku if you knew russian you would know he is saying
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
No, you're wrong again. He says "of course the technology behind bitcoin is very interesting," somewhere between saying "of course you can not accept Bitcoin as payment for anything because that would be "ugolovnoe prestuplenie” (criminal offense)."
Would you like me to double-check the context 4u?
lol you forgot the bit where he said other currencies are banned and many currencies throughout history are banned. so stop making out as if its a nuclear strike against bitcoin specifically.
I forgot nothing.
If you wish, I will transcribe the entire interview for you, verbatim, translate it, with parenthetical notes and frilly googlies, for the price of 2 BTC.
Upon completing above transaction, you will have the right to baww and mope about omissions, inaccuracies and unresolved ambiguities not present in the original.
You don't want to see me lose my patience, young man, you're this close!
This close!
Now go brush and off to bed with you, no backtalk.
Ah-ah. No! Don't wanna hear it.
February 06, 2016, 10:03:45 PM
ahpku if you knew russian you would know he is saying
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
No, you're wrong again. He says "of course the technology behind bitcoin is very interesting," somewhere between saying "of course you can not accept Bitcoin as payment for anything because that would be "ugolovnoe prestuplenie” (criminal offense)."
Would you like me to double-check the context 4u?
lol you forgot the bit where he said other currencies are banned and many currencies throughout history are banned. so stop making out as if its a nuclear strike against bitcoin specifically..
do you know that it is not legal to use dollar or euro in russia unless they are money exchange business registered..
oh wait, i guess that was too much context for you
bitcoin was defacto banned before it was even invented. meaning without it needing a new law to say it was banned.. it was banned, just by being not legal tender of russia.
and if you bothered to read section 30 of the draft they are actually talking about allowing people to register as money exchangers to be able to use it, or get a fine if they continue the under-the table stuff (much like getting caught with dollars without registration)
February 06, 2016, 09:45:21 PM
ahpku if you knew russian you would know he is saying
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
No, you're wrong again. He says "of course the technology behind bitcoin is very interesting," somewhere between saying "of course you can not accept Bitcoin as payment for anything because that would be "ugolovnoe prestuplenie” (criminal offense)" and "sooner or later all countries are going to crack down on it"
Would you like me to double-check the context 4u?
February 06, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
ahpku if you knew russian you would know he is saying
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
he even goes on to joke about if Kleminko went to an ATM, withdrew some bank notes and put 5000 rubles into his pocket. that no one, not even NATO can trace those bank notes. but with bitcoin every transaction is locked into history
as a separate bit of humour, while watching the video i noticed this
just look at the chip on the card. and then look at the icon showing direction of use
seems someone doesnt know how to use Visa
anyways back on topic.. lets wait around til atleast february 20th for an update to the draft.
but im still shocked at how the copy and paste clickbait websites didnt do independent verification of the news they post.
so folks dont be spoon fed by media. find the source material.
but nice of you to ignore the content of the video and just say "look the caption says the word bitcoin"
(you add no context)
but nice of you to ignore actual draft legislation and instead quote clickbait websites that also lacked content
so go enjoy your ponies, but i do hope you recover from your hallucination by atleast the 20th of february to be able to read the the actual legislation that actually impacts law.
have a nice day
"electronic money like bitcoin is very interesting,"
he even goes on to joke about if Kleminko went to an ATM, withdrew some bank notes and put 5000 rubles into his pocket. that no one, not even NATO can trace those bank notes. but with bitcoin every transaction is locked into history
as a separate bit of humour, while watching the video i noticed this
just look at the chip on the card. and then look at the icon showing direction of use
seems someone doesnt know how to use Visa
anyways back on topic.. lets wait around til atleast february 20th for an update to the draft.
but im still shocked at how the copy and paste clickbait websites didnt do independent verification of the news they post.
so folks dont be spoon fed by media. find the source material.
but nice of you to ignore the content of the video and just say "look the caption says the word bitcoin"
(you add no context)
but nice of you to ignore actual draft legislation and instead quote clickbait websites that also lacked content
so go enjoy your ponies, but i do hope you recover from your hallucination by atleast the 20th of february to be able to read the the actual legislation that actually impacts law.
have a nice day
February 06, 2016, 09:30:15 PM
i dont really understand why they need to banned bitcoin?
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
It's not that they bann bitcoin but that they ban unregistered transactions.
Problem for them is that nobody using btc will freely register the transactions and hence pay the corresponding taxes.
That's why they want to limit btc for companies and shops!
No, they actually are criminalizing Bitcoin, as in "it's surrogate money, illegal because only the Russian government can issue money in Russia."
Read more here, if interested (though I, personally, am not):
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Accepting Bitcoin Payments in Russia is a Crime
Show me one single person, who was prosecuted for this "crime". Don't copypast bullshit "news" which are pulled out of morons ass.
Are you saying that EVERY BITCOIN PUBLICATION IS LYING TO US?
http://www.coindesk.com/receiving-bitcoin-payments-is-a-crime-says-russian-presidential-advisor/
http://forklog.net/putins-internet-counselor-accepting-bitcoin-is-a-crime/
http://themerkle.com/news/putins-adviser/
How is this possible?
Mainstream press hates us, Bitcoin press hates us too?
...
Ahahahaha! Here you go, Friend
He does, he does say the very words, right here
http://lenta.ru/video/2016/02/05/klimenko/
See the word биткoины? That's Bitcoins, in Cyrillics.
...
Ahahahaha! Here you go, Friend
He does, he does say the very words, right here
http://lenta.ru/video/2016/02/05/klimenko/
See the word биткoины? That's Bitcoins, in Cyrillics.
...
February 06, 2016, 09:17:30 PM
i dont really understand why they need to banned bitcoin?
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
It's not that they bann bitcoin but that they ban unregistered transactions.
Problem for them is that nobody using btc will freely register the transactions and hence pay the corresponding taxes.
That's why they want to limit btc for companies and shops!
February 06, 2016, 09:13:57 PM
i dont really understand why they need to banned bitcoin?
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
does the existence of bitcoin destroying the countries fiat? I dont think so, it just funny sometimes see how the government try to control the economic
February 06, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
in France, accept cash payment over 1000 euros ... is a crime, too. 
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
It's not the money that is responsible for that but the government. And they do that to control money movements.
You're sure for the 1000 euros cash in France? Seems a bit low to me!
And bitcoin won't help if government adapts itself cause each time you'll have to exchange btc for EUR they'll tax you at this moment x)
1000 in italy. in germany they are drafting a bill for max 5000€ right now not active yet.
btw.
2014: russia or
2015: russia or
2016: russia or
notice something?
February 06, 2016, 04:35:37 PM
in France, accept cash payment over 1000 euros ... is a crime, too.
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
It's not the money that is responsible for that but the government. And they do that to control money movements.
You're sure for the 1000 euros cash in France? Seems a bit low to me!
And bitcoin won't help if government adapts itself cause each time you'll have to exchange btc for EUR they'll tax you at this moment x)
February 06, 2016, 04:32:24 PM
in France, accept cash payment over 1000 euros ... is a crime, too.
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
in Germany, accept cash payment over 5000 euros ... is a crime, too.
i don't remember that money have been invented to block the normal selling of thing ...
so, Bitcoin win at the end.
February 06, 2016, 04:31:49 PM
The same thing all over again. Now its Russia, then it will China, Then what?
But if this actually turns oput to be true, things will be getting a lot tuffer for Bitcoin
But if this actually turns oput to be true, things will be getting a lot tuffer for Bitcoin
February 06, 2016, 04:25:31 PM
What putin fails to see is that he cannot police the world let alone his own country.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
Hmm... Every country does the same.
It's just the fact that if you don't register important exchanges of money, you'll be fined because you didn't pay taxes here.
I mean, not saying it's good or bad, but that's the case in all Europe and whole America. Putin just raised it to btc exchanges too that's all.
February 06, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
Wow, that sucks for bitcoin. Hopefully it won't be enforced much or it's more of a threat then an actual law.
February 06, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
What putin fails to see is that he cannot police the world let alone his own country.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
its only illegal if you dont register as a money surrogate exchanging business.
if an individual doesnt register, he van be fined $500
if a bank CEO doesnt reveal and register their money surrogate exchanges. they can be fined millions of ruble or get prison time.
in short. its the same thing as in america.
Ahahahaha! Here you go, Friend
He does, he does say the very words, right here
http://lenta.ru/video/2016/02/05/klimenko/
See the word биткoины? That's Bitcoins, in Cyrillics.
Please ignore the ignorant goof, he trolled me into finding this bullshit, don't let him waste your time
February 06, 2016, 03:34:10 PM
What putin fails to see is that he cannot police the world let alone his own country.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
its only illegal if you dont register as a money surrogate exchanging business.
if an individual doesnt register, he van be fined $500
if a bank CEO doesnt reveal and register their money surrogate exchanges. they can be fined millions of ruble or get prison time.
in short. its the same thing as in america.
February 06, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/receiving-bitcoin-payments-is-a-crime-says-russian-presidential-advisor/
http://forklog.net/putins-internet-counselor-accepting-bitcoin-is-a-crime/
http://themerkle.com/news/putins-adviser/
How is this possible?
Mainstream press hates us, Bitcoin press hates us too?
http://forklog.net/putins-internet-counselor-accepting-bitcoin-is-a-crime/
http://themerkle.com/news/putins-adviser/
How is this possible?
Mainstream press hates us, Bitcoin press hates us too?
coindesk copy and pasted the forklog
the merkle copy and pasted the forklog
its not their fault they do not have brains to do independant investigations..
so read forklog, that quotes lenta.ru..
then find me the actual source on lentra.ru..
then you wont have to take other peoples context, as you will have the source..
Dear Friend: It's a frickin' video interview.
Listening to it now
Here's a link, you frikin ...Friend: http://lenta.ru/video/2016/02/05/klimenko/
February 06, 2016, 03:31:29 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/receiving-bitcoin-payments-is-a-crime-says-russian-presidential-advisor/
http://forklog.net/putins-internet-counselor-accepting-bitcoin-is-a-crime/
http://themerkle.com/news/putins-adviser/
How is this possible?
Mainstream press hates us, Bitcoin press hates us too?
http://forklog.net/putins-internet-counselor-accepting-bitcoin-is-a-crime/
http://themerkle.com/news/putins-adviser/
How is this possible?
Mainstream press hates us, Bitcoin press hates us too?
coindesk copy and pasted the forklog
the merkle copy and pasted the forklog
its not their fault they do not have brains to do independant investigations..
so read forklog, that quotes lenta.ru..
then find me the actual source on lentra.ru..
then you wont have to take other peoples context, as you will have the source..
February 06, 2016, 03:30:09 PM
What putin fails to see is that he cannot police the world let alone his own country.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
if anything this just makes bitcoin more valuable in russia. As it will be traded as contraband.
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away, merely forces them into shadier hands.
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