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sr. member
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I just want to throw this out there but... Should we consider a rebranding?  Almost as of this were a new coin?  I don't know if I'm on board but since this is the next stage of Qora's evolution and since the pool of followers is rather small, a rebranding could provide an image that things have changed and that the coin has turned a new leaf.

Thoughts?

I had thought of that the truth is but I have concluded that as we are approaching the wallet version 20 with AT live we can say that we have arrived Qora 2.0.Keeping the name, introducing crypto 2.0
I guess this is all about marketing after all.
rlh
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I just want to throw this out there but... Should we consider a rebranding?  Almost as of this were a new coin?  I don't know if I'm on board but since this is the next stage of Qora's evolution and since the pool of followers is rather small, a rebranding could provide an image that things have changed and that the coin has turned a new leaf.

Thoughts?
sr. member
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So.. I'd just like to echo Tuck's sentiments and throw in my two cents' worth...  Smiley

Guys, before we continue with this discussion, I hope everyone will remember that Qora has already done his job. He has already fulfilled the contract by delivering a world-class product that includes every feature he promised.  Smiley He has also gone above and beyond to ensure that we have a solid foundation to build on. Having said that, I think we should all be grateful for what the dev has done for Qora the project, and show some respect and appreciation. Even though I sincerely hope he will continue to guide this project so that Qora will reach its full potential (as the dev had envisioned it), I fully respect his privacy and his decisions. I realized that he might have his own personal reason not to disclose his future plans at this time, so I am not going to dwell on it.  Smiley  

I hope we can all agree that we should show our respect by stopping this conversation altogether and focus on what's really important -- development, development, development!  Smiley

It's time we pull our own weight and take this project to the next level.  There are really lots of things we can do now to help Qora grow, and everyone should definitely pitch in and help, whether you're a software developer or not.  

A project cannot have longevity by relying on paid staff or bounties.  A project cannot survive by relying on a single individual to carry it forward. It can only thrive with lots of volunteers rallying behind it.

Now we're in a good position to do just that -- taking Qora to the next level:

1) We've got a dedicated business manager in Vrontis who has been working tirelessly behind the scene and act as the go-between between devs and community members. He's a pretty level-headed guy and just the person Qora needs. He has promised to make regular announcements and keep the community informed. I believe this is a step in the right direction. I think we should all be more patient and rally behind him and offer our support.

2) Don't forget that Qora is one of a handful of 2nd-GEN coins that is actually OUT and fully Open-Source!  We've got a huge advantage in our hand, and if we play our cards right, we should be in top 20 or even top 10 in no time.

3) With AT and first Atomic Cross-Chain Trading app loomed on the horizon, Qora is close to having one of the first working decentralized exchanges!  That is not exciting enough for you?  Tongue

4) I know Vrontis' got a few tricks up his sleeve.  Tongue  I hope he will decide to make his announcement soon.

So what are some of the things we can do to help Qora grow?

1) How about contacting trading sites' operators or their business development teams and ask them to add Qora to their exchanges?  With rollout of next wallet version, we should get Poloniex back eventually (BTER is also planning on reopen for business).  I think our effort should focus on bigger exchanges that people will actually use - Cryptsy, BTC38, Komcort, HitBTC, Bittrex.. btc.. Please continue sending your votes to Qora!

2) Don't really know what's going on with the marketing team and website.  But I was thinking that we should have a discussion/conference on logo or branding matters.

3) We should starting working on Wiki and a roadmap for Qora (I understand Vrontis was working on something like that.. So I'll leave it to Vrontis to decide whether we should talk about that or not)..
Hello there !
Sorry for the silence. First of all, We have already paid Bitcrea for creating the new logo, However, he hasn't sent the logo as his funds got stuck in poloniex due to the wallet downtime. So the logo problem should be sorted out soon. Moving on to the Wiki, this is a great idea that we were thinking about, and it will be probably be launched along with the website at wiki.qora.org.

We are really planning a huge marketing push, but it will be wise to start that with the release of a new wallet as this will be more appealing for potential investors. We don't want to attract new potential investors who will probably turn away at the current state of affairs. First the new wallet, then, we get to work Wink
I really appreciate any suggestions from the community, so feel free to chat with me on Skype: Subscrib.es, I will respond ASAP Wink
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So.. I'd just like to echo Tuck's sentiments and throw in my two cents' worth...  Smiley

Guys, before we continue with this discussion, I hope everyone will remember that Qora has already done his job. He has already fulfilled the contract by delivering a world-class product that includes every feature he promised.  Smiley He has also gone above and beyond to ensure that we have a solid foundation to build on. Having said that, I think we should all be grateful for what the dev has done for Qora the project, and show some respect and appreciation. Even though I sincerely hope he will continue to guide this project so that Qora will reach its full potential (as the dev had envisioned it), I fully respect his privacy and his decisions. I realized that he might have his own personal reason not to disclose his future plans at this time, so I am not going to dwell on it.  Smiley  

I hope we can all agree that we should show our respect by stopping this conversation altogether and focus on what's really important -- development, development, development!  Smiley

It's time we pull our own weight and take this project to the next level.  There are really lots of things we can do now to help Qora grow, and everyone should definitely pitch in and help, whether you're a software developer or not.  

A project cannot have longevity by relying on paid staff or bounties.  A project cannot survive by relying on a single individual to carry it forward. It can only thrive with lots of volunteers rallying behind it.

Now we're in a good position to do just that -- taking Qora to the next level:

1) We've got a dedicated business manager in Vrontis who has been working tirelessly behind the scene and act as the go-between between devs and community members. He's a pretty level-headed guy and just the person Qora needs. He has promised to make regular announcements and keep the community informed. I believe this is a step in the right direction. I think we should all be more patient and rally behind him and offer our support.

2) Don't forget that Qora is one of a handful of 2nd-GEN coins that is actually OUT and fully Open-Source!  We've got a huge advantage in our hand, and if we play our cards right, we should be in top 20 or even top 10 in no time.

3) With AT and first Atomic Cross-Chain Trading app loomed on the horizon, Qora is close to having one of the first working decentralized exchanges!  That is not exciting enough for you?  Tongue

4) I know Vrontis' got a few tricks up his sleeve.  Tongue  I hope he will decide to make his announcement soon.

So what are some of the things we can do to help Qora grow?

1) How about contacting trading sites' operators or their business development teams and ask them to add Qora to their exchanges?  With rollout of next wallet version, we should get Poloniex back eventually (BTER is also planning on reopen for business).  I think our effort should focus on bigger exchanges that people will actually use - Cryptsy, BTC38, Komcort, HitBTC, Bittrex.. btc.. Please continue sending your votes to Qora!

2) Don't really know what's going on with the marketing team and website.  But I was thinking that we should have a discussion/conference on logo or branding matters.

3) We should starting working on Wiki and a roadmap for Qora (I understand Vrontis was working on something like that.. So I'll leave it to Vrontis to decide whether we should talk about that or not)..
legendary
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I understand Ahmed was working on the new website.  Can Ahmed or anyone in the team give us an update on the status of the website?  Also, we definitely can use a new logo and some branding material.  

My understanding is that Ahmed is in charge of marketing.  So I'm just wondering if Ahmed can share some of his thoughts with us (ie. whether we should start a logo contest here on bitcointalk or outsource it to some outside group.  I've got a few potential candidates in mind, and just like to hear what you guys think first).

This is a very good quote:

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I think for starter, we should focus on building up the WIKI (someone was asking about it the other day).  One thing I noticed is that people kept asking the same questions over and over again.  We should definitely write it up and populate it with answers to commonly asked questions (ie. latest list of known peers, how to correctly shut down the client.... even a description of Qora's forging algorithm).

I understand the team is growing.  Going forward, I think we should get more organized and hold regular meetings so we can communicate more efficiently (Slack Group or Agran's chatroom come to mind).

We have a slack community, its mostly used for prived chat there. But we can make a meeting for a public chat talk..

Please send me your email if you want have an invite in the Slack room of QORA!!!
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Hello, I don´t know about your private life guys but I know mine, if there is a reason because I have to stay away from crypto for a while I will endure it and return as soon as possible but I will give no explanation over my life and I think it´s the same for @Qora.

I know he has some kind of responsability over the project but he has the right of a real life too and that´s more important than any cryptocoin.

I think @Qora has his reasons to dissappear and nobody has the right to question it, whale or not whale.

Regards.
sr. member
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Personally, I don't feel like 'qora' needs to respond to any of us, but I wouldn't mind if they did.

I'm satisfied with the code they put out and appreciate the time and effort spent.

I hope they were compensated to their liking by the satisfaction of work well done or by any other means.

legendary
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I don't want to rock the boat and I understand it is not up to you to tell us, but we do deserve an update from Qora about his absence.

We the few that have been protecting/investing and donating to the network deserve this .


With all respect Pondsea, but most of the investors, didnt do anything, especially the big whales, they only dumped each time the price went up.

I understand your frustration, and I also would like that Qora shows up more etc, but there is not much we can to. Let's just be happy that we have other dedicated members, like Vrontis and the AT team, who are doing everything they can to make QORA a succes.

Just ask yourself what you can do and please contribute, so we can make QORA a succes.

Thanks

I am not most.

I have increased my position 3 fold since I invested in the ipo. I have staked my coins proving 10~20% of overall stakes over the last 8 months. I have spent my own money getting the wallet made when no one wanted to chip in and I am a major investor to get at funded.

so I think I have a valid request here.
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I understand Ahmed was working on the new website.  Can Ahmed or anyone in the team give us an update on the status of the website?  Also, we definitely can use a new logo and some branding material.  

My understanding is that Ahmed is in charge of marketing.  So I'm just wondering if Ahmed can share some of his thoughts with us (ie. whether we should start a logo contest here on bitcointalk or outsource it to some outside group.  I've got a few potential candidates in mind, and just like to hear what you guys think first).

This is a very good quote:

Quote

I think for starter, we should focus on building up the WIKI (someone was asking about it the other day).  One thing I noticed is that people kept asking the same questions over and over again.  We should definitely write it up and populate it with answers to commonly asked questions (ie. latest list of known peers, how to correctly shut down the client.... even a description of Qora's forging algorithm).

I understand the team is growing.  Going forward, I think we should get more organized and hold regular meetings so we can communicate more efficiently (Slack Group or Agran's chatroom come to mind).
xyz
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I don't want to rock the boat and I understand it is not up to you to tell us, but we do deserve an update from Qora about his absence.

We the few that have been protecting/investing and donating to the network deserve this .
I agree! We don't want to know private things from @Qora, but at least he can tell us what happened the last time with him! WHY he didn't give us any update? For me it is important to know, does he still believe in his coin? Are there things he cannot handle or what else?
PLEASE @Qora, tell us something!!!!! You are not God (I believe) and you cannot stay for ever in heaven! You should have contact with us! We want to believe in you and your coin and we want to help to grow it!
legendary
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I don't want to rock the boat and I understand it is not up to you to tell us, but we do deserve an update from Qora about his absence.

We the few that have been protecting/investing and donating to the network deserve this .


With all respect Pondsea, but most of the investors, didnt do anything, especially the big whales, they only dumped each time the price went up.

I understand your frustration, and I also would like that Qora shows up more etc, but there is not much we can to. Let's just be happy that we have other dedicated members, like Vrontis and the AT team, who are doing everything they can to make QORA a succes.

Just ask yourself what you can do and please contribute, so we can make QORA a succes.

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
I don't want to rock the boat and I understand it is not up to you to tell us, but we do deserve an update from Qora about his absence.

We the few that have been protecting/investing and donating to the network deserve this .
sr. member
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did Qora explain the absense and if he is continuing with this project?

If he explained or not the reason of his absence to me I would not share it as this is something personal.
Regarding the project, he continues with the full release of the source code.
So first, let's wait for that and then we will see.

If he decided to leave with the full source code delivery, I guess he is free to leave.
If he decided to stay then he might stay around somehow.


So, either he stays or leaves, there are still many things that are needed to be done.
As he said...

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legendary
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did Qora explain the absense and if he is continuing with this project?
legendary
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Reality is stranger than fiction
Great news !!!! Thank you for the update, and many thanks to dev!
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Let's say it with an example

The one scenario is...On Monday AT team releases the wallet version made by them, then, on Friday Qora releases the full source code.Changes will be merged and a new wallet version will be released again.
The other scenario is....Qora releases the full source code on Monday and AT team hasn't finished their integration.Then AT team will revise their integration to fit to the latest source code.At that time Qora decides if he is going to compile a new wallet version or not.

That's awesome! Thank you so much for keeping us updated. I'm very happy with the latest development  Smiley
sr. member
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Too Happy!!!!! You really made my day!

BTW, who is going to handle the next Wallet release?

AT Team or Qora dev himself?

AT team will proceed as normally with the integration of AT, create a new wallet version, test it first on a testnet and then release it.
If in the meanwhile, full source code get released, AT team will probably revised their integration to fit to the latest code and Qora will decide if he is going to compile a new wallet version at that specific moment.
If the source code released after the wallet provided by AT team, then again, it will be merged.

Sorry, but I'm confused about this statement.  A little clarification is needed.  I thought we were voting on a fork of Qora (created by AT team).  Does that mean it's not going to happen?  Or are you implying there will be two versions of Qora wallet?

One developed by AT team and one from Qora himself?

Sorry, just confused about what the situation is...

Let's say it with an example

The one scenario is...On Monday AT team releases the wallet version made by them, then, on Friday Qora releases the full source code.Changes will be merged and a new wallet version will be released again.
The other scenario is....Qora releases the full source code on Monday and AT team hasn't finished their integration.Then AT team will revise their integration to fit to the latest source code.At that time Qora decides if he is going to compile a new wallet version or not.
tyz
legendary
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Happy that Qora finally returned.
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Too Happy!!!!! You really made my day!

BTW, who is going to handle the next Wallet release?

AT Team or Qora dev himself?

AT team will proceed as normally with the integration of AT, create a new wallet version, test it first on a testnet and then release it.
If in the meanwhile, full source code get released, AT team will probably revised their integration to fit to the latest code and Qora will decide if he is going to compile a new wallet version at that specific moment.
If the source code released after the wallet provided by AT team, then again, it will be merged.

Sorry, but I'm confused about this statement.  A little clarification is needed.  I thought we were voting on a fork of Qora (created by AT team).  Does that mean it's not going to happen?  Or are you implying there will be two versions of Qora wallet?

One developed by AT team and one from Qora himself?

Sorry, just confused about what the situation is...
sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 250

Too Happy!!!!! You really made my day!

BTW, who is going to handle the next Wallet release?

AT Team or Qora dev himself?

AT team will proceed as normally with the integration of AT, create a new wallet version, test it first on a testnet and then release it.
If in the meanwhile, full source code get released, AT team will probably revised their integration to fit to the latest code and Qora will decide if he is going to compile a new wallet version at that specific moment.
If the source code released after the wallet provided by AT team, then again, it will be merged.
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