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sr. member
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small fry
Bounty
I am pledging 1.5 million qora to the first "PoW mining pool" to "mine" Qora.
Example: http://hashrate.org/
A treasurer/escrower for this is necessary, as well as more donation from other people.
Hmm, tempting
legendary
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@Qora i know the wallets are not public now but if we were to get someone to work on a new wallet design would you provide that to them privately?
hero member
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I am exploring the code a little.

Here are some basic questions:
The gui-Classes are not in the git repository, right?
Moreover I can see that the qora.jar contains a junit.jar, so can I assume that there are also junit testcases that are not part of the public repository?

All in all great work, I really like the code and style Smiley.
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
AT - Automated Transactions - CIYAM Developer
Congrats to qora for making it OpenSource. Now I am sure nobody will be able to say that qora is a nxt clone. Soon AT will be also launched and added to the repo. I will try to synchronize both releases of AT (qora and burst) so we can also run some atomic cross chain txs. Burst version ( as it is a nxt clone ) is also almost ready, Qora needs some work but is almost ready.  Also, while integrating AT in qora platform we added more functionality (new op codes), you can check the documentation in www.ciyam.org/at to see more info.

legendary
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Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction

You can get Nxt forging algo in slighlty simplified form in my blog http://chepurnoy.org/blog/2014/10/inside-a-proof-of-stake-cryptocurrency-part-2/ . And I'm going to investigate Qora's forging algo(got no detailed view from first investigation). I can even publish a blog on that if it's interesting, and make executable simulation of Qora forging process(I already made that for Nxt https://github.com/ConsensusResearch/ForgingSimulation )

I would be very happy to see a blog and an executable simulation !!!! That would be really great.



legendary
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I have send a PM to all the users who have submitted their willingness to join Qora Team.
Once I hear back from them and they confirm their interest, I will try to establish a communication channel for the team and we could start working for Qora coin.

The form will be remain active and people will be always welcomed to join Qora team.


Vrontis i have not filled in the form because i dont know if i can dedicate enough time justified to being on the Qora team.

I am more than happy to help out where i can. Right now i think if someone in the Qora community can write a very succinct article with all Qora's features that would be a good starting point then we can submit it to all the news sites.

I am willing to pay BTC or Qora bounty to get this written.
sr. member
Activity: 351
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I have send a PM to all the users who have submitted their willingness to join Qora Team.
Once I hear back from them and they confirm their interest, I will try to establish a communication channel for the team and we could start working for Qora coin.

The form will be remain active and people will be always welcomed to join Qora team.
legendary
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I am also willing and able to hold bounty funds if desired. I would need to clearly know who it responsible for ordering funds spent/moved, and I expect they would send me signed Messages from a Qora account that is provably owned by them.
sr. member
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I'd like to publicly apologize to PondSea and Qora for saying they had ignored me. In fact I didn't even mean that. I expressed myself poorly. I just wanted to say I thought they weren't interested or couldn't do that and needed other people to fill their places.
Thank you for providing escrow for our bounties and I wanna thank rlh as well.

Qora, could you please provide 6 addresses? You'll hold coins for rmb/qora + fully working fiat besides rmb and usd/qora + safe online wallet + anonymous transaction + pow mining qora + 500k that I want to send you for your effort (already sent to the address you provided).
full member
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Bounty
Now that Qora is open source I will start a bounty for Leased forging.
I will pledge 5 million qora. Anyone is allowed and welcome to donate too.
The more Qora we have pledged, the more developers will feel motivated. It'd be nice if we gather a lot of Qora for bounties. You're free to donate as much as you want, please consider this as an investing that will make your Qora more valuable.
The developer is free not to accept the Qora, and in such situation the community will decide if the funds will be reinvested in other bounties or given back to those who donated.

I recommend we have more bounties like this for different features and objectives. I've contacted Qora in order to provide an address for this bounty. Even though he's the most trustworthy person around, I recommend one person to hold no more than one address/bounty. If Qora does not accept to hold these funds the community will have to find someone else.

I recommend us to always donate Qora only, in order to motivate developers to actually use and hold Qora instead of other cryptocurrencies.

This is the original marketing address containing the recovered sharexcoin funds:
Qav66m4TkwVQC1YeutxG1fbTrZ6zzTtS3R

These are new personal addresses:
Qawma3oZfvTRo2aGWLvB2NxCwPT8VZG4vE
QZedHd92HM8oCq2eBsEc4iWDTkAVU9afEw
QZAnfQnUdgGbgGX6rkbaLTGwZGf6DgRDbY
QZ51j3HjMqZPbRwibdzyZzkuoikLWayhCc
QYoaBXApBrfXvFWvkjWcpNqUjM47zqRpvL
QYjJZpqhWGqZjHRfjdGCsek7qUe5vyv1Vz
QXzhHnYmT3b9oRTQHUFw5BDi7ETdgaipPm
QXwd2PKdqmumaoq65yn48rJmz4XmaiMccg
QXQHavtxQrzCWZN1Z1mAKqj5kQFebjjx5X
QXnBJSwwneXf129pzMkwwRtjyKzHkRPgMc
sr. member
Activity: 484
Merit: 251
Bounty
I am pledging 1.5 million qora to the first "PoW mining pool" to "mine" Qora.
Example: http://hashrate.org/
A treasurer/escrower for this is necessary, as well as more donation from other people.

I can hold 5~10 million for the bounty.

I will get an address later tonight if it is still needed.
Please provide 5 addresses. You'll hold coins for private messaging + cryptsy + btc38 + hitbtc + usd/qora.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
Bounty
I am pledging 1.5 million qora to the first "PoW mining pool" to "mine" Qora.
Example: http://hashrate.org/
A treasurer/escrower for this is necessary, as well as more donation from other people.

I can hold 5~10 million for the bounty.

I will get an address later tonight if it is still needed.
rlh
hero member
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Yes, Kushti, please offer your services.  Many of us will continue to follow.

Unrelated, I'm loving this volume on Bter!  I can turn quick profits on volume.  100 sats would be great, but in the mean time let's keep turning up the orderbook!
hero member
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Merit: 500
If you might be interested in working with something new, PM me and I'll tell you my top-secret killer app project.  I need to tell someone.  I'm tired of being silent, even if I never finish this thing.

I'm getting really curious. You could tell me and I'll delete the PM  Grin

Any clues for the rest of us?
hero member
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Merit: 500
Congrats guys, open source really matters!

First look thoughts:

1. This is definitely not another Nxt fork
2. What's in native libs? I guess the should be opensourced as well.
3. I did successfully run Qora under Intellij Idea by importing Eclipse project in the repo and adding native libs to a project
4. JSON settings are looking cool, but comments are needed, I guess, especially for non-coders
5. Got unsafe memory issue related to MapDb https://github.com/Qora/Qora/issues/8 . I guess it's better to avoid off-heap operations, for current MapDb state at least. I bet I did read Jan Kotek's article on how to do that.
6. Worse issue, I got not much useful message trying to run a node after crash https://github.com/Qora/Qora/issues/9 . Verbosity matters here.
7. Code seems to be more clean & easier to read than Nxt at the moment. However, after adding features / patches it could be the same, so have luck guys  Grin   And formatting isn't Sun(Oracle)'s standard http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconvtoc-136057.html (the same is true for Nxt).
8. Commented code is not good and not necessary with VCS (the same is true for Nxt at the moment as well)
9. What's the Orders launcher about  Huh
10. Any detailed description of Arbitrary Transaction available?



All I can verify is that Nxt vs. Qora looks completely different.  Also, Qora makes use of the global "Generating Balance" to determine the block Target.  From my scan of the Nxt code, no such value is used.  I think there is a bit more randomness to Nxt than their might be of Qora, but I won't stand by that.  Qora basically looks at the time since the last block, the forgers personal balance and the total balance of forging accounts.  It then uses a fairly straight forward process to test if a block has been forged.

I haven't been able to figure out what Nxt does.  This isn't because of poor Nxt coding.  It's because I don't have the time to look into it.  If a Nxt guru is around, please comment.

You can get Nxt forging algo in slighlty simplified form in my blog http://chepurnoy.org/blog/2014/10/inside-a-proof-of-stake-cryptocurrency-part-2/ . And I'm going to investigate Qora's forging algo(got no detailed view from first investigation). I can even publish a blog on that if it's interesting, and make executable simulation of Qora forging process(I already made that for Nxt https://github.com/ConsensusResearch/ForgingSimulation )

Kushti - thank you for your review. It would be really great to see you extend an executable simulation of the Qora forging process in your blog. A ConsensusResearch analysis is something that could really add value to the ongoing assessment discussions. Thank you and please do post any further information!
sr. member
Activity: 484
Merit: 251
Bounty
I am pledging 1.5 million qora to the first "PoW mining pool" to "mine" Qora.
Example: http://hashrate.org/
A treasurer/escrower for this is necessary, as well as more donation from other people.
rlh
hero member
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Merit: 1004
Lol, PF.  I've got your back.  It wasn't you.  It was playing referree in the middle of  all that drama.

If I have any reputation in crypto, I hope it's that I avoid drama and I try to be fair and honest.

Speaking of... I've considered asking you if you'd think about expanding into Qora. Wink

Actually, forget that (for now.) If you've been reading about Qora, you might have caught that I'm working on a side project.  After it's done, I might send you a PM asking if you'd like to find a way to involve your operations.

If you might be interested in working with something new, PM me and I'll tell you my top-secret killer app project.  I need to tell someone.  I'm tired of being silent, even if I never finish this thing.
sr. member
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Merit: 254
small fry
I've been there before and I'd rather not do that again.
Embarrassed
sr. member
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Hey Lynxxx this is your post from a while ago, you are available for marketing full time? :

6    Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source   on: September 05, 2014, 01:52:59 AM
I think Qora needs a plan. Here's what I suggest: aka OUR TEAM

Open Source (inluding peer review and whitepaper)
User Adoption Plan - reach out to businesses, universities, vc's
Recruit (Dev's, Marketers, Spokespeople)

Transaction Speed (Viacoin is at 24 seconds and stable, I believe speed will separate 2.0 coins from all the rest.)
Ease of Use (1 step install, stable client, thats dummy proof)
Asset Exchange (We're good to go on that front)
Mobile Wallet

I won't have much time to participate over the next 3 months as i am attending a full stack dev bootcamp starting on monday, but upon my completion, if we are open source by then, i would be willing to assist with marketing full time.

Yes, I am available to handle marketing. I prefer to have a team though. I would need atleast 1 other forum member that has insight into the technical aspects of Qora. If we are going to put ourselves out there, I want to be sure that the info we provide is truthful and solid. If someone has atleast Jr Developer insight into Qora functionality, I would welcome their input when creating materials and information.
Fry
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I haven't been able to figure out what Nxt does.  This isn't because of poor Nxt coding.  It's because I don't have the time to look into it.  If a Nxt guru is around, please comment.


I am not a Nxt guru but i reviewed the Nxt Code and i understand the Nxt forging algo.
Qora's forging Algo is definitely better, if it actually works (safe).
I think the biggest secret is still hidden in these native files.

I am not a crypto-expert, but i think
the problem with ECDSA is that for a specific public key and specific data to sign there are several valid signatures. That makes it normally a bad choice to determinate the next forging account.
Qora must have somehow solved that problem.
But as long as these native libs are not OS we will not know how.
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