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sr. member
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Looking for shmexy coins!
July 15, 2014, 06:12:19 AM
After reading this thread, I wonder what kind of retard can fall for the obvious scam that is QTM.
Maybe the same retards that did fall for the FLT scam ?
Just saying.

I am pretty sure it takes a different kind of retard to fall for QTM.
Just saying.

P.s. And what is your agenda or are you just a hater? You seam to support neither QTM nor FLT.
sr. member
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FlutterCoin Developer
July 14, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
We have communicated this issue with all the QTM members on Google Hangouts, and also tweeted it to the public.

Announcement: https://twitter.com/QTMHoldings/status/484735989035065344

All QTM Holders, please read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

More information with screenshots will be available shortly.

Look like fabricating screenshot takes some time, eh.

When you go ahead to make such accusations, you should have proof to come with it. Not make the accusations, then release the "proof" a day later.


It's interesting how @thekidcoin was never announced to be involved in this project before and now he is conveniently responsible for the big dump.

Aint it the truth? 
sr. member
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FlutterCoin Developer
July 14, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
Hey guys, was researching the reported issue in the QTM blockchain and source code. This is what I'd found:

Let's start with the source code https://github.com/QTMholdings/quantum/blob/master/src/ ... everything seems normal when you start looking the main file:



10,000 coins reward every PoW block, 0 coins every PoS block in main.cpp. OK. What about main.h?



Last PoW block = 1,000, tx fees = 0, max money = 10,000,000 * COIN. Let's see, 1,000 pow blocks * 10,000 coins = 10,000,000 total coins, so total coins are ok, but wait, if max money = 10,000,000 * COIN in the source code, what is the value of COIN variable? ok let's check util.h to know that information



COIN = 1,000,000 in quantum util.h file. Let's compare this value with another important coins, specifically bitcoin and dogecoin


Bitcoin COIN = 100,000,000


Dogecoin COIN = 100,000,000

Ok so COIN value in quantum is 1 million, but in bitcoin and dogecoin is 100 million, so quantum does not have a COIN variable standard value. What does this means? it means that 2 zeroes are missing in the qtm COIN variable and this value affects directly the data showed in any block explorer, even in coinmarketcap, hiding the real total amount of generated coins.

What can say us the blockchain? well, I had migrated the qtm blockchain to a postgresql db, applied some ordering filters and this is the result:



In the picture we can see 3 transactions at different blocks, we have a transaction of 10,000 coins, a transaction of 100,000 coins a transaction of 10,010,000. How can be possible a 10,010,000 transaction if qtm have a total amount of coins of only 10,000,000? hidden funds is the response. Merging the proofs we can conclude that QTM total amount of coins is more than 10 million.. I am sorry that a community is harmed by a developer who acted unprofessionally. I am confident that TheCryptoEdge, onemanatatime, Kazonomics and AltcoinAce solve this problem soon and optimally


Let me expose your stupidity for a moment little guy.

1) there is/was no hidden block
2) there can only be 1000 blocks @ 10K each - hence 10 million coins, hence any "hidden block" would be nullified as again - there can only be 1000 mined blocks PoW
3) main.h is correct - 10,000,000 * COIN is the max money
4) your taling about things that you don't understand - util.h is telling us the value for display of the coin - hence instead of doing something like 100 * 1000000 to convert an int64 as 100 instead you multiply 100 * COIN (which has a value of 1000000) hence max QTM IS SUPPOSED TO BE 10000000000000 expressed as int64 DUMBASS

You started all this BS based on stupidity and non-understanding of the code - you actually had them abandon QTM and move to QTM2???

Also you are reading the transactions wrong and you don't understand how POS transactions are formatted, and you obviously have no idea how to read as the block you are saying had 10,010,000 QTM in it has 10K in it an likely a test of 10 QTM while I was mining it.

WTF would be the point of mining all these coins? The market could never sustain it.

And finally - if one runs getinfo in the old QTM client - there is LESS THAN 10 million coins because of transaction fees that needed to be paid to ensure large transactions I sent to the QTM team were not delayed - I had many issues with this client and blew the original wallet up and likely lost a modest ammount of coins in the process (thousands)

This though speaks volumes as to the QTM team if you guys didn't see this was incorrect what this guy was saying.

DO NOT make accusations based on stupidy - PLEASE. 

You are likely the cause of the FLT threats etc sent to me so likely you are also responsible for me quiting FLT.

Job well done Sherlock!
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newbie
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July 06, 2014, 05:18:16 AM
QTM2 source code & wallets are ready!

QTM2 Wallets
Linux
Windows
Mac
Source Code


Please send QTM1 first before downloading the new wallet, or else make sure to change the old QTM wallet .dat file name. Because QTM2 wallet will replace old files.


Please read the announcement here for instructions on how to exchange your QTM to QTM2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing
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bitcoin is not a bubble, it is the pin
July 04, 2014, 06:40:56 PM
After reading this thread, I wonder what kind of retard can fall for the obvious scam that is QTM.
sr. member
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July 04, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Wowsa! Another hidden block tale, just like with Asiacoin.

So glad I got out of this hot mess long ago...


Actually even with this "mess"  the price of qtm was almost always above the ipo. And not by 1 or 2 Satoshi, but by 5-10k. Imagine how far would have gotten without this sell pressure caused by the hidden block.
newbie
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July 04, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Wowsa! Another hidden block tale, just like with Asiacoin.

So glad I got out of this hot mess long ago...



There is no mess, anyone with QTM will not be affected in anyway other than the fact they now have undergo an exchange process. The QTM Team is taking on all losses.
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July 04, 2014, 05:35:07 PM
Wowsa! Another hidden block tale, just like with Asiacoin.

So glad I got out of this hot mess long ago...

sr. member
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Merit: 250
July 04, 2014, 06:44:24 AM
We have communicated this issue with all the QTM members on Google Hangouts, and also tweeted it to the public.

Announcement: https://twitter.com/QTMHoldings/status/484735989035065344

All QTM Holders, please read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

More information with screenshots will be available shortly.

Look like fabricating screenshot takes some time, eh.

When you go ahead to make such accusations, you should have proof to come with it. Not make the accusations, then release the "proof" a day later.


It's interesting how @thekidcoin was never announced to be involved in this project before and now he is conveniently responsible for the big dump.
member
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bitcoin is not a bubble, it is the pin
July 04, 2014, 06:18:03 AM
We have communicated this issue with all the QTM members on Google Hangouts, and also tweeted it to the public.

Announcement: https://twitter.com/QTMHoldings/status/484735989035065344

All QTM Holders, please read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

More information with screenshots will be available shortly.

Look like fabricating screenshot takes some time, eh.

When you go ahead to make such accusations, you should have proof to come with it. Not make the accusations, then release the "proof" a day later.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
July 04, 2014, 05:31:50 AM
We have communicated this issue with all the QTM members on Google Hangouts, and also tweeted it to the public.

Announcement: https://twitter.com/QTMHoldings/status/484735989035065344

All QTM Holders, please read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

More information with screenshots will be available shortly.
hero member
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July 04, 2014, 04:58:26 AM
I tweeted ALvin @onemanatatime to ask him to answers here - he's twitting 20 times a day, I guess he have time to have a look at his own coin's thread Tongue.

That being said - we are investigating all this and I suggest everyone here to be very careful going on.  Be ethic, be honest.  We are working hard for #FLT to succeed - and those accusations are jail stuff.

By the way, is it me or your QTM website is an empty shell ?!




It's bound to happen, if you look at the sourcecode it has my twitter username in it. I made the site for them but I have nothing to do with this on finanical level. The css of the link hasn't been updated because I tried to reach out but they said that they were busy so I couldn't update it.
hero member
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July 04, 2014, 04:54:23 AM
I tweeted ALvin @onemanatatime to ask him to answers here - he's twitting 20 times a day, I guess he have time to have a look at his own coin's thread Tongue.

That being said - we are investigating all this and I suggest everyone here to be very careful going on.  Be ethic, be honest.  We are working hard for #FLT to succeed - and those accusations are jail stuff.

By the way, is it me or your QTM website is an empty shell ?!

legendary
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July 03, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
With the big announcement and serious accusations that you have made on twitter, how is it that NONE of this is posted or discussed here at all?

Please address this and also post proof.  You are not only affecting those that have invested into QTM but those that have with fluttercoin as well.

I can't believe how irresponsible your 'trusted' team is being in handling this matter.  At least have the decency to show up in the fluttercoin thread and provide sufficient proof instead of posting FUD that has caused the coin to crash 50% of it's value in one day.  The fluttercoin community are the indirect victims in this matter having suffered from your incompetence.  Even if your team actually turns out to actually be innocent, your lack of communication with all involved directly (QTMcoin holders) or indirectly (fluttercoin holders) shows just how much you care about anyone other than yourselves.

STAND UP AND COME FORWARD.  BOTH COMMUNITIES DESERVE ANSWERS.
sr. member
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June 18, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
QTM Buy programs now running from Flux and Quantum.  Thank you all for your patience more to come.

Running fantastically Smiley
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newbie
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June 17, 2014, 11:28:21 AM
QTM Buy programs now running from Flux and Quantum.  Thank you all for your patience more to come.
newbie
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June 17, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
Looking forward to seeing more updates and the results of the buyback...
sr. member
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June 17, 2014, 11:19:11 AM
Strange to see QTM on trex at 22k, uh?

Who would have thought that a scam could make you money :trollface:

BTW, what I've learned this month in flux is really above anything I've ever read on the internet.

And I was so convinced by the team that I also bought another stash on the exchange.
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June 10, 2014, 10:31:45 PM
I hear QTM is a scam and @altcoinace has been ripping people off for some time now. http://pastebin.com/5xq6Jk4A. Sad times...

Seriously man, WoW, I feel bad for you, But you know what? If I were you I would only blame myself !

Who listens to people - I learned one rule in my life - THERE IS NO EASY MONEY.

I hope you put it all behind and learned the lesson (When you lose - Don't lose the lesson).

I also have a twitter account - NO I don't recommend you to buy anything I say - NO I don't charge money or anything - Not anon or anything and I don't have a close group
But I have about 12 years trading experience and thought maybe you can follow me and learn a thing or two about trading coins and trading in general, Good luck. You can follow me @kobi514
sr. member
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June 05, 2014, 09:13:28 PM
Oh I missed this ipo so I can't join now? Cry
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