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Why so quiet....real investors not in here?
Where are the bitcoin addresses? What is the IPO address with 33 BTC? What is the escrow address?
Not having those two addresses makes this seem even scammier.
Not having those two addresses makes this seem even scammier.
IPO Wave 1 is over in less than 24 hours!
ok and once more all the trolls with newbie accounts yelling scam go to bed kids,
Great idea, with wise team, im already in
Plus this guys AltcoinAce , Kazonomics ,Onemanatatime are very legit traders with good reputation , i dont know them personally but they have the gutts to show their selfs , and not hide behind a coin BCT account,
If you dont get the concept of that, prolly you dont day trading or you do but on a great loss , cant everybody win win
And how many of you screaming scam & other stuff you dont take their advice ? (from twitter)
Well this question goes to trolls with not empty BTC wallet..
Great idea, with wise team, im already in
Plus this guys AltcoinAce , Kazonomics ,Onemanatatime are very legit traders with good reputation , i dont know them personally but they have the gutts to show their selfs , and not hide behind a coin BCT account,
If you dont get the concept of that, prolly you dont day trading or you do but on a great loss , cant everybody win win
And how many of you screaming scam & other stuff you dont take their advice ? (from twitter)
Well this question goes to trolls with not empty BTC wallet..
Your arguments are juvenile and ridiculous. They may be nice guys, but they have no public investing track record. At the very least they should run a public portfolio for a while so people have an objective way to judge their skill. It wasn't too long ago that onemanatatime posted the following on Twitter, which seems to now have been deleted:
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“@onemanatatime: Lost 50% of my #Cryptocurrency #Portfolio in 1.5 Months. Time to rebuild. #Bitcoin #Altcoins”
In what world does someone who lost half of their portfolio suddenly decide they should be managing other people's money?
All of that aside, even if they were the best investors in the history of crypto, the setup of this investment is so far outside of what is reasonable that it could only appeal to those with no investing experience or common sense. It's an affront to everyone with a working brain.
Public investing track record ?? you joking right ?
Maybe give you a plate ,a spoon & feed you!
so you need a mentor/prophet that is going to tell buy that today, sell that tommorow , win win - happy end ! wow you are BTC rich now ?
I dont know if they are the best investors in history, but they dont trolling or looking to 'eat' you alive! its been a while im watching this guys, and i can say at 80% im walking away with a nice profit,
Plus the golden rule is dont invest more than you afford to lose,
P.S. They dont asking your home or your whole BTC wallet, keep calm
No, I'm not joking. I got the idea from http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/investment_club/trader/159/onemanatatime - unfortunately that system doesn't take into account the size of the investment and therefore doesn't give an accurate ROI on the total portfolio.
And thanks, but I don't need a mentor, I've been at this for quite a while. Long enough to have seen dozens of noobs and nobodies come along with half assed schemes that play off of the dreams of wealth in the credulous and the stupid. Shitty investments are just that, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that fact.
I don't care if you invest, in fact, I hope you do. You have to pay for your education one way or another.
Another scam on the way:
60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%
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60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%
)Exactly what I said straight in the beginning
Yeah cos these 4 certainly would believe you can't solve 20+60
Another scam on the way:
60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%)
60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%
)Exactly what I said straight in the beginning
Another scam on the way:
60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%)
60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.
they did not want to say they will hold 80%
)
Let`s see how this will perform. Do not invest more than you can spare to loose. With this being said it will be interesting to see how these people will perform in a group and why did they put their reputation at stake. Best of luck to everybody.
For the love of everything important, DO NOT send these "people" any money/bitcoins.
They are nothing but a bunch of scammers with no plan, except of course take your bitcoins and try to multiply them for purely their own gain.
2 of the "people" who started this scam have already admitted that they do not see anything wrong with ripping off their twitter followers by completely unnecessary overcharging them 1000% on other altcoins.
Now how can you trust these "people" with your bitcoins/money if they ADMITTED that they don't see anything wrong with screwing their followers, who are by the way their primary target for this scam?!?
They are not a "wise team" nor "good people" nor "good investors" nor "good traders" nor have "good reputation", they are nothing of the sort, there is absolutely nothing positive about this bunch, nothing whatsoever.
Their only interest is in getting rich themselves and they will do it over the backs of everybody who is foolish enough to give them bitcoins/money.
Please, don't be foolish.
They are nothing but a bunch of scammers with no plan, except of course take your bitcoins and try to multiply them for purely their own gain.
2 of the "people" who started this scam have already admitted that they do not see anything wrong with ripping off their twitter followers by completely unnecessary overcharging them 1000% on other altcoins.
Now how can you trust these "people" with your bitcoins/money if they ADMITTED that they don't see anything wrong with screwing their followers, who are by the way their primary target for this scam?!?
They are not a "wise team" nor "good people" nor "good investors" nor "good traders" nor have "good reputation", they are nothing of the sort, there is absolutely nothing positive about this bunch, nothing whatsoever.
Their only interest is in getting rich themselves and they will do it over the backs of everybody who is foolish enough to give them bitcoins/money.
Please, don't be foolish.
And conveniently leave out the fact that I do not own any Maidsafe of Mastercoins and have nothing to gain from advertising that website.
https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461169919632359424
IF it is true that you had nothing to gain from that promotion whatsoever, a big IF, but lets say that is true, then it leaves 2 options open.
1) You did not know that that website was overcharging people 1000%. In this case you clearly don't know the market and this per definition makes you a bad trader and therefore cannot be trusted to trade with other peoples money. In this case your company would have bought a 1000% overpriced coin, which is of course very bad for investors.
2) You were aware of the 1000% overcharging, but for some reason decided to keep this information to yourself and let everybody else buy that 1000% overpriced coin. This scenario then proofs that you don't care about anybodies money and are knowingly trying to make people spend more than necessary. A very unlikely scenario, but again it proofs that you do not have the best interest of your investors in mind.
I am beginning to doubt if you understand anything about a running a company with an IPO, but it should mean that all your actions are benefiting the shareholders and so far every action and word has proofed that you don't care about anybody else besides yourself.
It does not matter which scenario is the correct one as all of them proof that you cannot be trusted to trade with somebody else's money. It really is as simple as that.
ok.
lets say that at this moment its not a complete scam
ok.
but from whole team only kazanomics is trustworthy/his TA realy usefull and qualified. Aaaaand QTM is not fully his idea. Another two is like 50/50. sometimes they guess. sometimes not.+ Ace is only 22 years old / Alvin tweets not so long ago that he lost 50% of portfolio
ok.
forget that hedge is one of the most risky types of business and few years ago lot of them crashes
ok.
let's say that you invested 1btc. now you have QTM for 0.2btc value of REAL capitalization (devs has 80% of premine and doesnt risk anything).
ok
devs will not give any reports on transactions/wouldnt make public audit. so at the end of months you can get 0.1 profit and wouldnt able to check honesty of that. (and of course you would receive only 1/5 of profit)
ok.
To enter any cryptomarkets they will have engage a lot of people. or paid for listing from IPOs money
ok.
let's imagine that traders forgot about cryptorush/AC and lots of another recent scams and will invest like crazy.
but tell me what will you do, if something gone wrong and you lost all. Unfriend them from twitter?
trading is not for emotions or faith. only facts and analysis.
at this moments devs do not know the answers to many questions (like for second wave ipo, for example)
lets say that at this moment its not a complete scam
ok.
but from whole team only kazanomics is trustworthy/his TA realy usefull and qualified. Aaaaand QTM is not fully his idea. Another two is like 50/50. sometimes they guess. sometimes not.+ Ace is only 22 years old / Alvin tweets not so long ago that he lost 50% of portfolio
ok.
forget that hedge is one of the most risky types of business and few years ago lot of them crashes
ok.
let's say that you invested 1btc. now you have QTM for 0.2btc value of REAL capitalization (devs has 80% of premine and doesnt risk anything).
ok
devs will not give any reports on transactions/wouldnt make public audit. so at the end of months you can get 0.1 profit and wouldnt able to check honesty of that. (and of course you would receive only 1/5 of profit)
ok.
To enter any cryptomarkets they will have engage a lot of people. or paid for listing from IPOs money
ok.
let's imagine that traders forgot about cryptorush/AC and lots of another recent scams and will invest like crazy.
but tell me what will you do, if something gone wrong and you lost all. Unfriend them from twitter?
trading is not for emotions or faith. only facts and analysis.
at this moments devs do not know the answers to many questions (like for second wave ipo, for example)
i wonder who are those idiots that paid 33.5 btc for this shit 
Every dog has his day.
Well at least there should be less risk that they run away with it than the scam dev of Emiratescoin
i wonder who are those idiots that paid 33.5 btc for this shit
Every dog has his day.
Ok, I believe it is not a scam, but I don't see high ROI neither.
Some people here seem to have such little experience with the real world. Let me summarize for you:
- The founders are (according to general opinion) well known and respected members of the community. They are traders and coin devs and write a lot of articles on altcoins and so on. They've been around for a long time and understand how things work.
- They want to create a company (investment fund) and they have some general ideas of what activities they would do to increase the value of the company (fund).
This happens all the time in the real world. Once someone has become a well-known and respected member of an industry, someone who has held executive positions in successful companies in that industry, they can get investment money just based on who they are. Look at Jack Dorsey and Evan Williams and Biz Stone. They created Xanga, Blogger, and Odeo. They had a reputation as being successful at coming up with new ideas and turning them into profitable companies. When they had some vague idea about creating a new type of communication platform investors threw money at them. The idea didn't matter, they were investing in the people not the idea. They had investors lining up before they wrote a single line of code. The idea of course was Twitter. And since that has been successful Williams and Dorsey have gotten investment for other companies just on their reputation and past success.
Or to put it another way, if Justin Timberlake wanted to start a record label but didn't have any artists to sign yet would you invest? If the senior trader at Goldman Sachs left to start a hedge fund but didn't know what his trading strategy was going to be would you invest?
Decide for yourself if the QTM founders are people you respect and trust and think can put together a profitable altcoin fund. But to call it a scam because they don't have a 100% road map of exactly what they're going to do is silly. You're investing in the people not the idea.
- The founders are (according to general opinion) well known and respected members of the community. They are traders and coin devs and write a lot of articles on altcoins and so on. They've been around for a long time and understand how things work.
- They want to create a company (investment fund) and they have some general ideas of what activities they would do to increase the value of the company (fund).
This happens all the time in the real world. Once someone has become a well-known and respected member of an industry, someone who has held executive positions in successful companies in that industry, they can get investment money just based on who they are. Look at Jack Dorsey and Evan Williams and Biz Stone. They created Xanga, Blogger, and Odeo. They had a reputation as being successful at coming up with new ideas and turning them into profitable companies. When they had some vague idea about creating a new type of communication platform investors threw money at them. The idea didn't matter, they were investing in the people not the idea. They had investors lining up before they wrote a single line of code. The idea of course was Twitter. And since that has been successful Williams and Dorsey have gotten investment for other companies just on their reputation and past success.
Or to put it another way, if Justin Timberlake wanted to start a record label but didn't have any artists to sign yet would you invest? If the senior trader at Goldman Sachs left to start a hedge fund but didn't know what his trading strategy was going to be would you invest?
Decide for yourself if the QTM founders are people you respect and trust and think can put together a profitable altcoin fund. But to call it a scam because they don't have a 100% road map of exactly what they're going to do is silly. You're investing in the people not the idea.
You guys here at BTCtalk love to give these guys shit, eh? Twisting words everywhere!
I've been trading along side them with tips from them for months.
They know there stuff and probably the MOST trustworthy of any of these coins that have come out lately.
I just wished they explained what they are doing better so this shitstorm of a thread didn't happen.
They wanted to start a fund, but due to regulations, they cannot. So they are creating something as close to a fund as they can.
If you have a question, you have their PERSONAL twitter, IRC, this thread, and emails. Get with the program.
I've been trading along side them with tips from them for months.
They know there stuff and probably the MOST trustworthy of any of these coins that have come out lately.
I just wished they explained what they are doing better so this shitstorm of a thread didn't happen.
They wanted to start a fund, but due to regulations, they cannot. So they are creating something as close to a fund as they can.
If you have a question, you have their PERSONAL twitter, IRC, this thread, and emails. Get with the program.
For the love of everything important, DO NOT send these "people" any money/bitcoins.
They are nothing but a bunch of scammers with no plan, except of course take your bitcoins and try to multiply them for purely their own gain.
2 of the "people" who started this scam have already admitted that they do not see anything wrong with ripping off their twitter followers by completely unnecessary overcharging them 1000% on other altcoins.
Now how can you trust these "people" with your bitcoins/money if they ADMITTED that they don't see anything wrong with screwing their followers, who are by the way their primary target for this scam?!?
They are not a "wise team" nor "good people" nor "good investors" nor "good traders" nor have "good reputation", they are nothing of the sort, there is absolutely nothing positive about this bunch, nothing whatsoever.
Their only interest is in getting rich themselves and they will do it over the backs of everybody who is foolish enough to give them bitcoins/money.
Please, don't be foolish.
They are nothing but a bunch of scammers with no plan, except of course take your bitcoins and try to multiply them for purely their own gain.
2 of the "people" who started this scam have already admitted that they do not see anything wrong with ripping off their twitter followers by completely unnecessary overcharging them 1000% on other altcoins.
Now how can you trust these "people" with your bitcoins/money if they ADMITTED that they don't see anything wrong with screwing their followers, who are by the way their primary target for this scam?!?
They are not a "wise team" nor "good people" nor "good investors" nor "good traders" nor have "good reputation", they are nothing of the sort, there is absolutely nothing positive about this bunch, nothing whatsoever.
Their only interest is in getting rich themselves and they will do it over the backs of everybody who is foolish enough to give them bitcoins/money.
Please, don't be foolish.
And conveniently leave out the fact that I do not own any Maidsafe of Mastercoins and have nothing to gain from advertising that website.
https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461169919632359424
In addition to the way a little alternative IPO, but there are other highlights of the currency it?
this is a big risk investment, hope that is not a scam.
Can you please increase the max cap for IPO contribution? 250 is too little to invest. 
Unfortunately, wave 1 will be capped at 250 BTC so as to maintain a fair price and distribution to investors.
realy would like to get into that , completely trust the devs unfortunately i decided to put all crypto i have into zed until before may 9 , so i will probably get in the second wave
The use of QTM and details of any future IPO waves will be conducted at our full discretion.
This may be 1 month from now, or 6 months from now, or done in other ways. On the other hand, you will be able to buy some on the open market when QTM hits exchanges soon after launch.
Good luck with ZED!
actually meant zet but still the same point ^^
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