Topic: Quickseller Gave me a negative trust Without Considering any possibility - page 4. (Read 4606 times)

As long as BadBear trusts him nothing can be done. This case isn't similar to the one with Vod. Remember that not so long ago Vod was being called out in meta. Vod was right in his cases; Quickseller not so much. Recently there was a thread about the selective enforcement of rules (takes a while to read through).

Update: Thank you theymos for clearing this up, I wasn't aware of it.

its absolutely ridiculous that he is still on default trust list, can some-one have positive trust but not be on the list?
quickseller and his alt acctseller are the only two persons excluded from my default trust list

I bought the account, so I wouldn't know what exchange it is. But it seemed much more probably from all the transactions that it is an exchange.

I was digging up some things, and here is a Solid example of this.

1.
https://blockchain.info/tx/058577bdcdeb4368940c0fb631a083f3e8eef5edad1fd765e6c5d9a4551d3ea8
In this transaction 1LuckyRd42yF6jLEvodcj8LT6VF1GEhJQk   sends to 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2

Now 1LuckyRd42yF6jLEvodcj8LT6VF1GEhJQk was used here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10408527

The address it sends to 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2 , is probably his deposit address on Pocketrocketcasino .

PART 1: Lets Assume The personal who posted that address : Baro , requests for a loan to that address 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2


2. In this transaction : https://blockchain.info/tx/d698387aa7b2088fb618015400b583dae47239a5728f1503d9095ddb2d7e902a


We Know that 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2    and  1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH are part of the same transaction and the owner has keys to both .

But lets have a closer look to the address 1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH  .
We see it is also a deposit address on Pocketrocketcasino , as someone from Dicenow, requested a withdrawal to that address. https://blockchain.info/tx/9076dec8026d97ae09c8e6a8d7fd80ca71575b3c100a986925a38b658f8ad31a

PART 2 :
Now lets say another person Tacoman , a scammer requests loan to be sent to 1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH  .




3. PART 3 : Now just because Baro , and Tacoman requested loans to their deposit addresses , and those addresses are owned by the same person, that is the website in this case, Quickseller is claiming Baro and tacoman are the same people.






Read Parts 1 , 2, and 3
Now how would Baro defend himself ? In this case Baro is Twipple and is being targetted.

I agree with all those things from Twipple .. but i want to clear somethings now . i dont know what is wrong with twipple but i think i had to say something . i got negative feedback without any reason saying that alt of tacoman ? huh ?
I Am.
Ume



Whatever the matter was he did`nt spent his money which is not an issue for me i just want 0.04 with the end of the time period of loan . but he was enable to pay me back . so i created a thread what to do abotu this should i sell ? or not ? and i got point of views from different peoples .
so i started posting like 10-15 posts i think because i know that his account has some potential of earning activity when it become near to 110 Activity i sold the account to Tdowns (which is now Twipple)
http://i.imgur.com/pdmPR59.png

Here are original screenshot of Twipple that he asked for the loan he asked me twice for the loan and after that i agreed to give him so i m not the alt of him as Quickseller says that you are loaning to yourself lol

http://i.imgur.com/82Ucp8M.png

After all of that Twipple pm`ed me saying that i got banned and that is your fault ! after posting for a week or so he got banned .

Quickseller gave me negative trust too.

In short ,


Quickseller give me this negative trust reason .
Whereas, i m not the alt of tacoman71 i dont know this bitch. also he says that i m giving loan to account which own myself ..

I provided a total of 3 (loans) 2 of em paid me back and 1 ( twipple ) did`nt paid me back .


@Twipple you think i m scammer and you think i m asshole ? no way . you think totally wrong about me . i dont know what is wrong with the quickseller . but i really want him off the defaualt trust .

And about the trust.?

While providing loan to Twipple , we setted terms that and in the terms twipple said that he will leave +rep after the loan duration . that`s why i gave myself rep. i know i did wrong and i got first time negative rep from quickseller and i aplogized to quick that remove the negative trust i m removing the rep of twipple i dont know after that he removed the neg turst to neutral .
then after one month or so twipple make a thread agains me saying that bought account from Ume and got banned ? which is a foolish reason .
from that day i stopped loaning coz i think i m not able to handle it peoples are too clever . and the default trust person give neg rep without knowing anything .

To all those , who thinks i m a scammer just show me one person whom i scammed

I have much to say but i want a full stop .

If you have further question about me let me know .

Do you remember which exchange it was?

I don't think it's an exchange, though I cannot be sure. First off, the wallet has payments to/from a number of different websites, including localbitcoins.com, which is strange. It's transactions don't appear automated at all, they all happen during the day between 09:02am and 20:17pm GMT and not 24/7 as you would expect. There are not many tx's and there are none with multiple recipients - something most exchanges do. In addition the wallet isn't tainted by any known website. Also each payment empties the wallet, if it was an exchange it'd be very convenient how each withdrawal was exactly the balance, which also leads me to believe this isn't a part of a wallet either but the full thing. I would guess this is most likely an Electrum wallet based on some clues. If you tell me the name of the website I may be able to confirm whether it is their wallet or not.

In case you are wondering, here are all the websites I checked it for taint: (though this is not 100%)

Quickseller Gave me this trust :

Now before I say anything, what I believe is that those addresses were in the same transaction as the spending addresses because the exchange or gambling site sweeped those addresses. I would also like you to read my second post on this thread, as based on his logic I prove how a user Baro is Dicenow,or someone with that address can have a case like this .  Keeping that in mind, here is why I think so:

Now at : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ume-loans-micro-laons-924856
Twipple requested a loan on 25th Jan to the address 15ZX2yUZio9HeSWUeWubxznQyaYcYFBFzB .

This address has no previous deposit. And the loan amount was the first(which can be that its his newly generated localbitcoins or something like that wallet address). Also, it seems Twipple never used the amount until 1st Feb from the loan(which would be weird), but I feel its the sweep that was done then, and Twipple would have got the balance elsewhere like you do in an exchange. Now Quickseller claims Twipple account to be an alt of tacoman, and belives it was dumped or gotten rid of on purpose by defaulting on the loan , Now If Twipple wanted to get rid of the account, he would easily sell it for over 0.05 , instead of going for a loan of 0.025, which probably could mean a loan for gambling and he lost it, hence didn't pay back.


Now the other address used by tacoman : 1Fz6xXind3Kovsw4ArW6u7oMXRZTUSBj1G
Has transactions , like you would do in an address that is usually a deposit address to a site. Even the single transfer out of that address  https://blockchain.info/tx/bfd3ec181aeae8abd8da9e63f6c4772ff8fceb6d4c0f3472cac66b6c77649353
goes to 1MmVUQEtwWXgQV9WKhL6sKPBDENJgBkoqn , which has a mixer/Exchange kind of pattern.


The third address he mentioned https://blockchain.info/address/1Fo6Uy8JWnV9SnDM5LBnYA8nnCQgbfbyDT , is also like an exchange address with inputs and outputs to addresses, with only 2 transactions like in an exchange.

So basically none of the addresses are actually like personal addresses which would have normal transactions .All of them maybe under the control of a single entity(the exchange or a gambling site) , but they show no signs of being under a person based on the transactions. Also, this is the only transaction, that they have been used in together, with no other transaction occurring together or elsewhere.

If it was one individual in control of the private keys, then he would not be only using this for that one particular transaction, and its almost certain thats it the exchange which had them under control.

I sent it to Quickseller, but he just arrogantly refused to accept it, and also blocked me from PM. And replied back with a quote  
When you buy an account, you are buying the reputation associated with the account.

"You should be more careful about what you spend your money on in the future.  Clearly purchasing a forum account was a bad idea."  which is basically what he has always done.

I want to know what you guys think of it. I had bought this account from Ume in an auction, who sold it after the original account defaulted on a 0.025 loan. I even started a scam accusation towards Ume for other things, and all this was before receiving the negative trust from Quickseller on Twipple 2 months later.


See the other post on this thread as a follow up: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11171949