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Quote from: Bloodseekers on August 12, 2023, 03:57:59 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 10, 2023, 05:37:27 AM

I don`t think that it is necessary. The main problem is in the head. The gambler must understand that gambling is awful for him. And if his friend is a gambler it doesn`t mean that he must stop it to.
I stopped smoking several years ago. Today i can smoke 1 or 2 cigarettes, can easily stay with the smokers and don`t feel any discomfort. The gambler who decided to stop must feel something about it i think.

It's true that there's no need for us to forbid them to gamble because if they themselves don't want to stop then there's no point in us advising them to stop, because everyone has responsibility for themselves. As you said, if we have stopped, of course it will have a good impact and we can save money for us to use other things that are more useful for us.

We can only help, but if the gambler don`t want to stop - no one can help him. The main thing the gambler has to do is to make a decision to stop. When i stopped smoking a didn`t ask anyone to stop smoking with me or to smoke in the places i can`t see. It is their decision and they mustn`t change themselves for me. This is the best way for the gambler as for me - no one must change himself to help gambler.

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We all know that quitting in gambling is not an easy things for the addict gambler, that's one thing I knew 100%. But if you area newbie and very seldom to gamble, well I guess it wouldn't be hard for them to quit.

However, this habit became a routine in the lives of an addict gambler that's a big problem, this need a long process to get rid of it and need a family and friends guidance.

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Quiting of gambling depends on how disciplined the gambler is, it might not be hard for a beginner to quit gambling but it can be too hard for an addict to quit gambling because he's now well addicted to it to the extent that he can borrow money to stake which is so bad, so such a person can't quit gambling even if he's discipline he can't because the life of a gambler have taken over.
Not been a gamble addict is good then playing bets once in awhile is also good too, because such person can easily stop gambling anytime, been disciplined is good, if we are disciplined we can easily restrict our selfs from gambling when ever we noticed that thats not the days of winning for us, when the days of winning comes we shouldn't bet more than what we planned to stake.

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Quote from: samuraijin on August 12, 2023, 06:38:38 PM

Sometimes everyone depends on how they use their money to be used, and the bad habits experienced by someone with gambling are very difficult to stop, especially if they are from a group of rich people, even they can spend their money just for gambling, the same like playing women have similarities in controlling lust and addicts, only their money can stop their addiction in terms of gambling, in my opinion it's like that...

Well, For rich, I believe money can't stop their addiction. Because if they're running out of funds, there are other resources where they can get money. Therefore I don't see it as a reason for these rich people to stop what they used to. What I can think of for someone to decide to stop is when he experienced the worst, e.g losing your family, debt, putting life at risk (health and mental problem) etc.

Sometimes if you didn't experience yet to be in the lowest point of your life due to gambling. You will not stop until you experienced the one that can make you change your mind to completely stop your gambling addiction.

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Sometimes everyone depends on how they use their money to be used, and the bad habits experienced by someone with gambling are very difficult to stop, especially if they are from a group of rich people, even they can spend their money just for gambling, the same like playing women have similarities in controlling lust and addicts, only their money can stop their addiction in terms of gambling, in my opinion it's like that...

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 12, 2023, 03:05:14 PM

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Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

^ I think we are all thinking the same way and you are right.
Gamble for fun and entertainment without developing a problematic habit, or probably others may find themselves struggling with

Why do you think he is right? He is not.
You should develop your own personality if you want to become a gambler. You do not agree with the post you quoted and what have been said! Why did you quote it?

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 12, 2023, 03:05:14 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on August 12, 2023, 01:34:32 PM

Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

^ I think we are all thinking the same way and you are right.
Gamble for fun and entertainment without developing a problematic habit, or probably others may find themselves struggling with addiction, which requires professional help and a concerted effort to overcome. I think if you feel this way the best thing that you can do is to find alternative forms of entertainment and engaging in healthier activities can help redirect focus away from gambling and then come back you are ready and have control over yourself.
Because for me, responsible and recreational gambling can be relatively easy to quit, but for those facing a serious addiction, seeking professional help and building a strong support network are very important steps toward recovery.

Very important to assist them to find ways to quit with gambling, those people who suffer from heavy addictions who really wanted to clear this problem can seek help with the professionals and with the support of their love ones, it's possible that they can cure it as long as the person itself is the one who really wanted to escape from this problem,

Gambling can be enjoyable but if you already exceeding from your limits, the reality will hurt you, knowing that you will lose a lot just because of your engagements that turned into addictions.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on August 12, 2023, 03:20:52 PM

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This all goes down to having control. As long as a person have control on how they will engage in gambling activity, they can be called gambler but not gambling addicts. I do agree that having control over oneself in gambling will avoid us in lots of troubles. Moderating our gambling activities will save us lots of troubles in the future.

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Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

If one is experiencing a hard time quitting gambling, regardless of the benefits it brings, there is a huge possibility of a gambler getting too hooked and the possibility of gambling addiction is high. A person in control will never find it hard to stop, moderate, or quit his activities. Those who are not in control are the one getting the hard time.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 12, 2023, 03:05:14 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on August 12, 2023, 01:34:32 PM

Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

^ I think we are all thinking the same way and you are right.
Gamble for fun and entertainment without developing a problematic habit, or probably others may find themselves struggling with addiction, which requires professional help and a concerted effort to overcome. I think if you feel this way the best thing that you can do is to find alternative forms of entertainment and engaging in healthier activities can help redirect focus away from gambling and then come back you are ready and have control over yourself.
Because for me, responsible and recreational gambling can be relatively easy to quit, but for those facing a serious addiction, seeking professional help and building a strong support network are very important steps toward recovery.

I can consider myself to be a gambler but not on the sense that i've been addicted. I've been doing gambling for years but still i could say that im not really that addicted to it.Why? Here's the few things;

1. I can stop anytime i do like
2. I cant stop whether when im winning or losing up all the allocated budget
3. I could simply find out other entertaining things aside from gambling
4. Haven't wrecked out my finances
5. Having balance on decisioning in between responsibilities and leisure times.

You wont really be finding yourself on great trouble if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing and been minding about the probabilities and things that could happen specially on
gambling addiction which it is something that you would be needing to avoid in the first place because once this one shackles into you then you would really be hardly on getting out
because this is something like a rust that would gradually be consuming you if you are not really that good on emotional handling and mind control or being wary on what you are doing.
This is why it would really be important on having that self assessment about your gambling activity condition.

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Quote from: dimonstration on August 12, 2023, 01:34:32 PM

Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

^ I think we are all thinking the same way and you are right.
Gamble for fun and entertainment without developing a problematic habit, or probably others may find themselves struggling with addiction, which requires professional help and a concerted effort to overcome. I think if you feel this way the best thing that you can do is to find alternative forms of entertainment and engaging in healthier activities can help redirect focus away from gambling and then come back you are ready and have control over yourself.
Because for me, responsible and recreational gambling can be relatively easy to quit, but for those facing a serious addiction, seeking professional help and building a strong support network are very important steps toward recovery.

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Quote from: CODE200 on August 12, 2023, 06:58:46 AM

The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment,

I have different opinion here. It’s very hard to quit on gambling if you are using it for fun and entertainment because it means that you are getting positive outcome in there with profit or personal satisfaction. It’s very hard to quit on something that you are enjoying already. The only time it’s very easy to quit on gambling is when you are already bored and scared at the same time because that’s not for fun purposes already.

When in addiction and having fun is same level for me on how hook you are on gambling. I’m not an addicted gambler it’s very hard for me to quit completely on ga,bling because I enjoy playing even I’m doing it casually during my free time from work.

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The simple answer is YES it's easy if you're just doing it for fun and entertainment, and NO if you become addicted to it. In fact, for those people who have serious addiction to gambling has to seek professional help like visiting a therapist. So if you find yourself in this situation, better to seek help or support from your family or friends, or find a new entertainment for you to keep away from coming back to gambling.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 10, 2023, 05:37:27 AM

I don`t think that it is necessary. The main problem is in the head. The gambler must understand that gambling is awful for him. And if his friend is a gambler it doesn`t mean that he must stop it to.
I stopped smoking several years ago. Today i can smoke 1 or 2 cigarettes, can easily stay with the smokers and don`t feel any discomfort. The gambler who decided to stop must feel something about it i think.

It's true that there's no need for us to forbid them to gamble because if they themselves don't want to stop then there's no point in us advising them to stop, because everyone has responsibility for themselves. As you said, if we have stopped, of course it will have a good impact and we can save money for us to use other things that are more useful for us.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 09, 2023, 04:28:30 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on August 09, 2023, 04:04:41 PM

Can I say that the remedy of gambling addiction is to give the victim money. Because in gambling, what they are chasing is money and if the money is given them, they will.stop gambling. On a second thought, I might be wrong, it could be that if money is given the addict, he will use it to increase his gambling power.
This thing seems that it needs a specialist to handle them, anyone who has not handle an addict before may not be able to handle a fresh case. But we know that an addict will only change when they truly wish to or have seen the reasons to.

This is a bad idea because giving a gambling addicts money is like fueling his addictions and this is a bad trap for the addict, because most of the gambling addicts have moved from the level of chasing the money into something that is beyond ordinary explanation since we can't really tell what their reasons are some time.

But saying more money most especially gifts will make a gambling addict quite gambling, I don't think so, and we should look for more suitable solutions instead of placing more traps for the addict who is trying to breakaway from their addictions.

Yes you're right not only fueling the addiction but helping them in making the wrong decisions which is a very bad idea, it's not even advisable for friends or family to keep valuable items around them because they could be forced to steal it just to satisfy their addictions.
The best possible solutions I could think of taking them to a rehabilitation center if their case is very severe or visiting a therapist at early stages because preaching to them yourself could cause some provocations that would hinder them from listening to your advice, it is a very bad thing for good to take gambling as a hobby because it not something you could easily go out from.

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on August 09, 2023, 07:33:27 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 09, 2023, 03:06:12 AM

The main idea is to be really interested in the new hobby. I don`t sure that if someone will offer any hobby it would be interesting for the gambler. He must try until he really like it. In all other situations the gambler will feel that he lies himself. I don`t sure that it will take a lot of time, but anyway if he has such a problem - it would be difficult.

Maybe it's true if we have to find a new hobby like you said, then this will be very useful for those who are already addicted to gambling, but in the process they are carrying out their new hobby of course there must be support from the people closest to them this will be more good for those who are struggling with their bad habits. After they have no desire to gamble anymore, it is better for them to avoid all games that bring them closer to their bad habits that they have left behind.

I don`t think that it is necessary. The main problem is in the head. The gambler must understand that gambling is awful for him. And if his friend is a gambler it doesn`t mean that he must stop it to.
I stopped smoking several years ago. Today i can smoke 1 or 2 cigarettes, can easily stay with the smokers and don`t feel any discomfort. The gambler who decided to stop must feel something about it i think.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 09, 2023, 04:04:41 PM

Can I say that the remedy of gambling addiction is to give the victim money. Because in gambling, what they are chasing is money and if the money is given them, they will.stop gambling. On a second thought, I might be wrong, it could be that if money is given the addict, he will use it to increase his gambling power.
This thing seems that it needs a specialist to handle them, anyone who has not handle an addict before may not be able to handle a fresh case. But we know that an addict will only change when they truly wish to or have seen the reasons to.

This is a bad idea because giving a gambling addicts money is like fueling his addictions and this is a bad trap for the addict, because most of the gambling addicts have moved from the level of chasing the money into something that is beyond ordinary explanation since we can't really tell what their reasons are some time.

But saying more money most especially gifts will make a gambling addict quite gambling, I don't think so, and we should look for more suitable solutions instead of placing more traps for the addict who is trying to breakaway from their addictions.

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One can control it if the case is still not serious, but it doesn't mean that it's easy to do; it's still a challenge for that person. On the other hand, if the case is serious, it is most likely necessary to have other people help them too. They will be needing counseling and support from others.

Most gamblers addicted to gambling have a serious problem because they can't stop thinking about gambling or even stop playing. And as long as they still have money to play, maybe they will just continue gambling until the money is gone. And that required the help of another person who could see how far his gambling addiction had gone. But a person who is addicted to gambling may be able to hide it from others so that others will not be able to see it clearly if they are not really watching the gambler.

Can I say that the remedy of gambling addiction is to give the victim money. Because in gambling, what they are chasing is money and if the money is given them, they will.stop gambling. On a second thought, I might be wrong, it could be that if money is given the addict, he will use it to increase his gambling power.
This thing seems that it needs a specialist to handle them, anyone who has not handle an addict before may not be able to handle a fresh case. But we know that an addict will only change when they truly wish to or have seen the reasons to.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 09, 2023, 03:06:12 AM

The main idea is to be really interested in the new hobby. I don`t sure that if someone will offer any hobby it would be interesting for the gambler. He must try until he really like it. In all other situations the gambler will feel that he lies himself. I don`t sure that it will take a lot of time, but anyway if he has such a problem - it would be difficult.

Maybe it's true if we have to find a new hobby like you said, then this will be very useful for those who are already addicted to gambling, but in the process they are carrying out their new hobby of course there must be support from the people closest to them this will be more good for those who are struggling with their bad habits. After they have no desire to gamble anymore, it is better for them to avoid all games that bring them closer to their bad habits that they have left behind.

Many times if you have a roommate who is addicted to gambling, he will tell you about his hobby. And you might start copying all that and you'll want to gamble like him. If you get stuck in gambling to implement this hobby then it will definitely become difficult for you. Because a person who is addicted to gambling cannot come out easily, it takes a long time to quit gambling. If you have become such a habit that not a day goes by without your gambling then you must be strongly addicted to gambling. So I think gambling should never be done to fulfill this kind of hobby because gambling will never lead to good but it will lead to an addiction. So avoid gambling and never do such a habit to become addicted to gambling.

In fact, it's true to say that most people will be influenced by their immediate environment, such as someone who has a gambling friend and is likely to get carried away. Some say that this is an expensive hobby, it is quite reasonable to say this. True, that someone who has entered gambling then they will feel something significant in gambling, they will experience a lot of defeat and also some pressure until maybe they are stressed it could be. To be honest I'm not sure if a gambler can get out of the addiction zone easily, it's quite impossible for me because I've felt it. It is very difficult to get out of gambling because you will always be haunted by curiosity at all times, and your mind will continue to lead you to victory. Everyone has their own path in gambling and also in their journey to get out of this zone.
I think very few of them can eventually stop gambling completely.

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on August 09, 2023, 07:33:27 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 09, 2023, 03:06:12 AM

The main idea is to be really interested in the new hobby. I don`t sure that if someone will offer any hobby it would be interesting for the gambler. He must try until he really like it. In all other situations the gambler will feel that he lies himself. I don`t sure that it will take a lot of time, but anyway if he has such a problem - it would be difficult.

Maybe it's true if we have to find a new hobby like you said, then this will be very useful for those who are already addicted to gambling, but in the process they are carrying out their new hobby of course there must be support from the people closest to them this will be more good for those who are struggling with their bad habits. After they have no desire to gamble anymore, it is better for them to avoid all games that bring them closer to their bad habits that they have left behind.

Actually, even if someone finds a new hobby, there will be a time when he will eventually go back to his gambling addiction. And because no hobby in the world is going to give mental leisure for a long enough period of time to create something for which you picked up the hobby. In short, a hobby is most probably not going to entertain you for the whole life. The sole and genuine approach to overcoming an addiction is to acknowledge its detrimental effects, which likely prompted the desire to cease, and recognize that prioritizing one's obligations over personal preferences holds greater significance.

Is there going to be a certain time when you would really want to put a little bit of money on a horse just to see what happens? Yes and as long as you are doing that with the money, which you probably can afford to lose for free, you should be alright. But even then, why would you do something like that knowing you might lose the money for nothing? Just go buy a homeless person some food.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on August 09, 2023, 09:56:54 AM

Quote from: Bloodseekers on August 09, 2023, 07:33:27 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 09, 2023, 03:06:12 AM

The main idea is to be really interested in the new hobby. I don`t sure that if someone will offer any hobby it would be interesting for the gambler. He must try until he really like it. In all other situations the gambler will feel that he lies himself. I don`t sure that it will take a lot of time, but anyway if he has such a problem - it would be difficult.

Maybe it's true if we have to find a new hobby like you said, then this will be very useful for those who are already addicted to gambling, but in the process they are carrying out their new hobby of course there must be support from the people closest to them this will be more good for those who are struggling with their bad habits. After they have no desire to gamble anymore, it is better for them to avoid all games that bring them closer to their bad habits that they have left behind.

Many times if you have a roommate who is addicted to gambling, he will tell you about his hobby. And you might start copying all that and you'll want to gamble like him. If you get stuck in gambling to implement this hobby then it will definitely become difficult for you. Because a person who is addicted to gambling cannot come out easily, it takes a long time to quit gambling. If you have become such a habit that not a day goes by without your gambling then you must be strongly addicted to gambling. So I think gambling should never be done to fulfill this kind of hobby because gambling will never lead to good but it will lead to an addiction. So avoid gambling and never do such a habit to become addicted to gambling.

Hobbies are a great help for those who want to leave the game and thus avoid continuing in a vicious circle, it is not bad to do other things that are different from the game, when we see somewhere that things are quite hard with him casino and if you lose money, we have to buy compulsorily, it is something that must be done to take care of ourselves, especially so as not to be left with nothing, it is an obligation to do so because otherwise we will lose our money and then neither to play nor to buy the things that we need, and living with loans is not ideal, because how will it be paid later, and if the work that is done is not enough to meet expectations, you must work Twice as hard or with another job.

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