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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
But many people who became interested in gambling have this goal of making money through it. I think if there's no money involved, they will not engage themselves in this activity since they can't gain anything aside from the entertainment of playing different games.
wrong , I think it will be better if there is no money involved because surely gambling will be more enjoyable and yeah can be addicted.
though there will be no greed involve instead all is for friendly competition but maybe far different approach from what we have now.
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Greed and unable to accept the result are just a few of many reasons on why gamblers are becoming addicted. Well, having someone (even online) to talk to who have the same problem and can relate to what you have been going through is good. It's not much but it has an impact on how to overcome the situation.
well  both addict talking to each other? for sure they will only share their addiction and their gaming and not what they have been doing and that is the sad part.
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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
But many people who became interested in gambling have this goal of making money through it. I think if there's no money involved, they will not engage themselves in this activity since they can't gain anything aside from the entertainment of playing different games.

Greed and unable to accept the result are just a few of many reasons on why gamblers are becoming addicted. Well, having someone (even online) to talk to who have the same problem and can relate to what you have been going through is good. It's not much but it has an impact on how to overcome the situation.
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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.

It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Well, at least the person who got involved is not close to him.  He stated that he is still engaging with gambling activity but don't want people who are close to him to get involved in gambling.  There are cases like this where the head of the family is engaging in gambling activities but he forbid his children to gamble.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.

I highly agree, gambling is not dangerous it becomes dangerous if the person engaging in gambling have poor control of himself and is full of greed.  But to a responsible gambler, gambling is just a pass time while having a chance to win bigger amounts while controlling the time and money spent to gambling activities.
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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.
Generally, something that can harm you or anyone in any way can be labeled as dangerous even if the harm is triggered by your actions or the actions of someone else, but since it is harming you for your involvement, you can say that it's dangerous because anything can happen at any given time if there is a trigger. Take a gun as an example of this, a gun is generally used for protection from the bad which means that it's not something bad but if you put the trigger while it's pointed towards you or someone else, that's dangerous, for sure.

Therefore, even though you are right that a person who gambles irresponsibly is taking the risk and danger themselves because they are allowing gambling to tear their life apart, I believe gambling itself does have a lot of risks which is the reason why we can call it something dangerous or maybe a dangerous addiction, to be more precise.
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.

That's what I thought! Thank you for your reply! So, in your opinion all companies are doing everything they can to make people addicted to their product. Well, I agree with you, only in this case the word "addicted" doesn't look so sinister. It just means people want to use your product because they feel it helps them to feel better.

There is no reason to prevent for-profit companies from achieving those goals especially increasing user satisfaction, but, the problem is do they use manipulation techniques or shady schemes to achieve that?

If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
Well, I don't know in the other Countries , but when it is about what I live it is not so. They can charge all the taxes that they are queir, and yes, they tell you that they will help health, sport, whatever, but they do not, that money is for them, and they are replable to make their face, But at least in this country it is not so, so there are many countries that Prohibit casinos , games of chance for this to prevent addicted people and the Solution is not that , it is not prohibit , it is quite the Opposite, to Leave and that People take their Responsibility , the fact that a country Prohibits games of Chance just for protection is a lie , and then much Less the taxes that a Government can Subtract from a casino is a lie that will use them for the benefit of addicts, in The personal I have always thought that the most legal Countries for these Things are the most prosperous, Switzerland, Nordic Countries , which are Countries  that pay anything in taxes because they have such a high quality of life that they can Do.
Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate. For example, I live in a conservative country whose religion is Islam, which is considered one of the most important sources of legislation. Although the Islamic religion clearly prohibits all gambling activities, the state regulates the sector and benefits fully from its revenues without even bothering to take care of addicts.

Well that's very delicate, I don't know that religion very well, but I know it's something delicate, of course each country has its rules, it's like everything, each one has their own rules, but I consider that players from any country need to have fun, no. There is another, they are normal people who need to do something well and feel differently, that is why I have always said that religion, race, or any type of ethnicity does not matter, what matters in a case is that the person gives themselves to play and have fun healthily without harming others, sometimes the governors dominate their masses because they say they believe they know more than others, because they are a government they know better, that was before, now things don't work like that, things don't work that way. They are very different and can be affected by other types of elements, what the prohibitions cause is that people are very bad-tempered and begin to think that the things they do are wrong, and that is not the case, the prohibitions should not exist under any circumstances. type of criteria, and fewer prohibitions to have fun, I think that is the pinnacle of any government that does it.

If we start from the right that every person has to have fun, all governments would be violating the rights of people who do not allow them to play, harsh, temporary or whatever prohibitions are something that should not even exist, there may be prohibitions of another kind, But it's like telling people from a certain country that they don't have the right, so on what account? These things are not well regarded, I don't approve of something like that, even though my country had that ban, I was one of the people who always played, and through stake.com. freebitco.in did it, they do not control the internet, and thank God that is not the case, because if they do not control each of the things that are done and no, it would be like a mini North Korea , something that does not even have Human rights, So those policies don't apply to me.
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Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.
Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.

It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.
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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
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Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.
Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
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Its good that we are seeing independent efforts to helping gambling addicts overcome their addiction in a professional way.
Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.

That's what I thought! Thank you for your reply! So, in your opinion all companies are doing everything they can to make people addicted to their product. Well, I agree with you, only in this case the word "addicted" doesn't look so sinister. It just means people want to use your product because they feel it helps them to feel better.

Be careful with the book you are reading. Authors often resort to any and all methods to make their text attractive.
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
I share in your view, prevention is better than cure and I've been advising people on this many times. One could prevent gambling addiction completely from the beginning by not just dabbling into gambling but first trying to know the good and bad sides of gambling and how to only work in the line of the good and avoid the bad side of it entirely. Gambling is not easy, still, with the right education, one can know how to gamble, manage their games well and still preserve their psychology. But the dos and don'ts of it must be known before this is possible and they can only be known through the right education about gambling. People often underrate gambling education because gambling itself is informal, but it's very good.

But, unfortunately, there is no school for gamblers, at least I don't know of any except the random advice online. So as an adult, it's important that you learn it by yourself and get to be careful of what is making you go astray. Imagine when you are gambling and losing consistently and do not stop to take a break from it and restrategize, then something must be wrong. Every gambler needs to be sensitive and shun the controlling influence of gambling and be disciplined, and these must be done regardless if the person is new or old in gambling.
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There's no way on telling if you are already get addicted or not until you would be able to realize that you have losing money too much and this is in fact reality. There are really just that those people who are really that good when it comes to their discipline and control when it comes to their fund handling and there are ones who do really suck at this and this is why they do really end up on such disaster.
You wont really be getting addicted if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing and really having those kind of limits on the time that you do gamble.
You wouldn't really be needing any help or whatsoever but if it happens that you are already that having that kind of problem then self will should be enough
but commonly people do fail at this.
Really, i dont totally agree with you on the inability of the addictis to know when their slide into the addictions and from my experience of how addictions manifest and grow is a process that the victim himself build up over time until he gets to a point where he can no longer control the urge and tendency to keep getting my of the addictions.

Just take it as one who usually palyed for just a 3 hours a day, and suddenly he starts going in for longer periond of time let say spending 6 hours at that point, he ahould already know that he is sliding gradually into addictions.

Its good that we are seeing independent efforts to helping gambling addicts overcome their addiction in a professional way.
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Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.
I used to say the same thing but I came to realize it doesn't really make much sense.
The reason why I'm saying this is because gamblers can't tell whether they are addicts or no. So saying: "OK, am fine am just enjoying gambling and when I 'm about to become an addict I'll quit gambling" doesn't make sense. Usually, anyone who says something like this is an addict and refuses to admit it. It' s more serious than that, believe me!
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
There's no way on telling if you are already get addicted or not until you would be able to realize that you have losing money too much and this is in fact reality. There are really just that those people who are really that good when it comes to their discipline and control when it comes to their fund handling and there are ones who do really suck at this and this is why they do really end up on such disaster.
You wont really be getting addicted if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing and really having those kind of limits on the time that you do gamble.
You wouldn't really be needing any help or whatsoever but if it happens that you are already that having that kind of problem then self will should be enough
but commonly people do fail at this.
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
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Having guides like qg is going to help them the need that they should have for them to overcome gambling problems that's hard to deal if done alone.
No offense to QuitGambling.com or any other service such as it, I believe gamblers who are highly addicted to gambling will barely be able to leave gambling and get rid of their addiction by merely reading some posts or watching some videos, especially if they are alone as you mentioned already. They might get motivated for a while, turn off their device, or close the gambling platform, but for how long? It can't hold them back forever and they will eventually start gambling again. That's why, for an addicted gambler to stop gambling, they need someone with them who will not let them gamble when they want to, in case they have decided to quit gambling themselves.

You're right because if prohibition could have been the way out to solve every gambling addiction then those that would have first supported this are the governments, because they wouldn't want the people to be that involved in gambling,
I don't see any reason why governments wouldn't want people to get involved with gambling unless gambling is prohibited within the country or the people are gambling with foreign platforms that aren't registered with the authorities in which case they won't be able to take taxes from them.
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manners, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Sometimes our curiosity is what gets the best of us and our actions in terms of every other activities we get involved in and this also includes gambling. Gambling responsibly is actually a personal choice and of what is being discussed everyday in most gambling community self discipline and control is what is needed to achieve this. If you are gambler and you fail to meet up with your self discipline then you would probably just end up being an addicted gambler and  many people actually know about their weakness in many things when it comes to self control but curiosity still get the best of them and before you know they get involved and become very lousy at it too.
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Agreed. Willpower is what matters the most while support groups do tend to help now and then to a certain extent depending on the members in that particular group based on what I observed.

However, the community that you are expecting exists only in dreams since the reality is that most people don't give a damn about others.
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manners, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
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