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I will just do a calculation to compare the 480x with the 390 and Nano, if it is better, I will buy it then.
power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
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Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
that is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction
here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better
22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption
the 1070 costs nearly the same as a nano and is only a bit better most smart miners will be waiting for the 480
since it costs half the price of both of them
that only because of the dual miner thing, and sp is working on a similar version, with fee and crap like that
480 will most likely be priced higher than 200...
In Europe, the 480 will cost around $300. So it might not be a good idea to buy it. We will see in two weeks.
power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Quote
Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
that is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction
here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better
22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption
the 1070 costs nearly the same as a nano and is only a bit better most smart miners will be waiting for the 480
since it costs half the price of both of them
that only because of the dual miner thing, and sp is working on a similar version, with fee and crap like that
480 will most likely be priced higher than 200...
power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Quote
Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
that is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction
here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better
22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption
the 1070 costs nearly the same as a nano and is only a bit better most smart miners will be waiting for the 480
since it costs half the price of both of them
power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Quote
Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
that is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction
here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better
22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption
The 1070 is better than nano in terms of price and the efficiency. I will hold on until the 480 appear to decide which one to buy.
Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane.
I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card
If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months 
If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash.
yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore
youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year.
The nano will be replaced by gamers with r480x if they have HBM, they can small form factor the 480
The fan already makes the card much larger.
Longer, loud, and bad cooling efficiency.... vapor chamber is the worst option for gpu, especilly in the case o mining (24/7 hours).
The 380x did 25mhs until the latest dag, now it's doing ~21mh so with the 14nm chips in the 480 should offer a jump in performance and efficiency, especially for claymore's dualminer.
whaaaat?! do you got some real ethereum miner pics?
PS 380x of mine pushes 21.45mh/s @1500MHz gddr5 (elpida)
If ethereum relies on memory bandwidth, how the heck are you guys coming up with these hashing estimates when it only has a 256-bit bus? I don't think it's going to be anywhere near 30mh.
The 380x did 25mhs until the latest dag, now it's doing ~21mh so with the 14nm chips in the 480 should offer a jump in performance and efficiency, especially for claymore's dualminer. power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Quote
Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
that is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction
here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better
22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption
power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Quote
Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.html
Availability (MAJOR shortages) on both the GTX1080 and now the GTX 1070 are putting a serious limit on how much they are affecting the market so far.
Might change in the next month or two though.
DirectX 12 also appears like it might give AMD a major shot in the arm on competative performance for a couple years, as it appears their CURRENT gen cards are competative with Pascal ALREADY.
Might change in the next month or two though.
DirectX 12 also appears like it might give AMD a major shot in the arm on competative performance for a couple years, as it appears their CURRENT gen cards are competative with Pascal ALREADY.
Any idea of what the risk to hashing performance would be due to driver issues?
Any lessons from the past?
Any lessons from the past?
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for
26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr
for and aditional 45 watts
Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane.
I will make sure to grab 2 or more before they bump the price. This is totally great for mining. 
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
The nano is really in a niche market though. It is marketed towards customers that want good graphical performance for their mini-ITX setups (Think HTPC).
The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140.
Nanos are nowhere near "about the same specs as an R9 290x" - more shaders, MUCH lower power usage, more RAM, much wider memory and higher memory bandwidth.
I don't anticipate the RX 480 having a noticeable effect on their pricing - perhaps when an RX 490 comes out THAT might affect Nano pricing noticeably.
From the specs I've seen to date on the RX 480, it is NOT in the same class as a Nano overall - somewhere between half and 3/4ths of the performance, mostly due to the higher clock rate and despite having about half the cores....
The nano has 4096 shaders while the 480 has 2304, that is less than 60% of the Nano. It might clock higher.
You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140.
Nanos are nowhere near "about the same specs as an R9 290x" - more shaders, MUCH lower power usage, more RAM, much wider memory and higher memory bandwidth.
I don't anticipate the RX 480 having a noticeable effect on their pricing - perhaps when an RX 490 comes out THAT might affect Nano pricing noticeably.
From the specs I've seen to date on the RX 480, it is NOT in the same class as a Nano overall - somewhere between half and 3/4ths of the performance, mostly due to the higher clock rate and despite having about half the cores....
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/37.html
msrp on the nano is actully $649 so its already at a 20% discount already and with 4k shaders i dnt see how it
wil drop below 400 i grabed six for 480 this week
You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140.
Nanos are nowhere near "about the same specs as an R9 290x" - more shaders, MUCH lower power usage, more RAM, much wider memory and higher memory bandwidth.
I don't anticipate the RX 480 having a noticeable effect on their pricing - perhaps when an RX 490 comes out THAT might affect Nano pricing noticeably.
From the specs I've seen to date on the RX 480, it is NOT in the same class as a Nano overall - somewhere between half and 3/4ths of the performance, mostly due to the higher clock rate and despite having about half the cores....
Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane.
I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card
If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash.
yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore
youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year.
The nano will be replaced by gamers with r480x if they have HBM, they can small form factor the 480
The fan already makes the card much larger.
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