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anyone can help me ?
how to stake rads..? where the download link for windows version? must use core version or client ?  and any minimum amount to get DPOS?

The Windows wallet is located on the OP, but here is a direct link: https://github.com/ProjectRadium/Radium/releases/download/v1.4.2.1/Radium-qt-1.4.2.1.exe
There is no minimum balance required, however the more coins you are staking, the higher your odds are of staking a block. RADS is PoS V3, not DPOS.
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Blockchain and stuff

Im all for removing the decay. As far as splitting the transaction fees...the way I read it I vote no. Its not a fair system to reward somebody with 100 rads the same amount as a person that holds 20,000. If thats the case, ill move my 19,900 rads out and open up multiple 100 rad wallets from different ip addresses then sell the rest of my rads and invest in another staking coin. Basically I would be double dipping multiple times, plus have a different staking coin for free and bang out the income while that other 20,000 coin staker omly gets a split of the 1440. Keep in mind that pos will be coming to an end and the transaction fee is the only return. I tried to write a possible flaw in your idea.

Any chance of adding more radium to the project? 

Hi! and thank you for your feedback.

Because the additional rewards are added to the block reward, a person with more rads will get a larger % of the total rewards, just like they currently get a larger % of the blocks when they stake.  In order to get a bonus, the person must first stake a block with a bonus in it. Larger wallets will stake more blocks, so the distribution of bonus funds should be proportional to the amount of RADS a person is staking.

I am not sure what you mean by adding more radium to the project, can you elaborate some more?


JJ

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Im all for removing the decay. As far as splitting the transaction fees...the way I read it I vote no. Its not a fair system to reward somebody with 100 rads the same amount as a person that holds 20,000. If thats the case, ill move my 19,900 rads out and open up multiple 100 rad wallets from different ip addresses then sell the rest of my rads and invest in another staking coin. Basically I would be double dipping multiple times, plus have a different staking coin for free and bang out the income while that other 20,000 coin staker omly gets a split of the 1440. Keep in mind that pos will be coming to an end and the transaction fee is the only return. I tried to write a possible flaw in your idea.

Any chance of adding more radium to the project?

I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  



Great work! The future looks great for radium.

Question...After the 3 million radium are minted, will there be enough use on the blockchain to be worth staking?

We are currently working to address the question of usage. The protocol change proposal found here attempts to address this by spreading fees out over 1440 blocks. By spreading the fees out, the impact of the SmartChain is greater for all stakers, rather than a lucky few. After the SmartChain 3.0 user interface and protocol are completed, we will be focusing heavily on marketing and improving adoption. Ideally, improved adoption will lead to increased SmartChain activity, and therefore higher rewards for all stakers.

Im all for removing the decay. As far as splitting the transaction fees...the way I read it I vote no. Its not a fair system to reward somebody with 100 rads the same amount as a person that holds 20,000. If thats the case, ill move my 19,900 rads out and open up multiple 100 rad wallets from different ip addresses then sell the rest of my rads and invest in another staking coin. Basically I would be double dipping multiple times, plus have a different staking coin for free and bang out the income while that other 20,000 coin staker omly gets a split of the 1440. Keep in mind that pos will be coming to an end and the transaction fee is the only return. I tried to write a possible flaw in your idea.

Any chance of adding more radium to the project? 
sr. member
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Im all for removing the decay. As far as splitting the transaction fees...the way I read it I vote no. Its not a fair system to reward somebody with 100 rads the same amount as a person that holds 20,000. If thats the case, ill move my 19,900 rads out and open up multiple 100 rad wallets from different ip addresses then sell the rest of my rads and invest in another staking coin. Basically I would be double dipping multiple times, plus have a different staking coin for free and bang out the income while that other 20,000 coin staker omly gets a split of the 1440. Keep in mind that pos will be coming to an end and the transaction fee is the only return. I tried to write a possible flaw in your idea.

Any chance of adding more radium to the project?

I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  



Great work! The future looks great for radium.

Question...After the 3 million radium are minted, will there be enough use on the blockchain to be worth staking?

We are currently working to address the question of usage. The protocol change proposal found here attempts to address this by spreading fees out over 1440 blocks. By spreading the fees out, the impact of the SmartChain is greater for all stakers, rather than a lucky few. After the SmartChain 3.0 user interface and protocol are completed, we will be focusing heavily on marketing and improving adoption. Ideally, improved adoption will lead to increased SmartChain activity, and therefore higher rewards for all stakers.
hero member
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anyone can help me ?
how to stake rads..? where the download link for windows version? must use core version or client ?  and any minimum amount to get DPOS?

i think its all on OP, dont know if its the latest version or not
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anyone can help me ?
how to stake rads..? where the download link for windows version? must use core version or client ?  and any minimum amount to get DPOS?
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Price still dipping. People buy rumor sell the news?

It's not really dipping, if you take a look at volume and the order books. The volume is so low that price isn't really moving, but people aren't selling either. As soon as even a small amount of demand comes in, price will likely shoot up because the order book is so thin on the sell side (only 68 btc). We are just in a stagnant period.

That said, I can't predict price movements. This is just how I see it. Price could rocket. Price could tank. Who knows.
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Following this coin, how is this coin different from factom?
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Price still dipping. People buy rumor sell the news?
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I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  



Great work! The future looks great for radium.

Question...After the 3 million radium are minted, will there be enough use on the blockchain to be worth staking?

We are currently working to address the question of usage. The protocol change proposal found here attempts to address this by spreading fees out over 1440 blocks. By spreading the fees out, the impact of the SmartChain is greater for all stakers, rather than a lucky few. After the SmartChain 3.0 user interface and protocol are completed, we will be focusing heavily on marketing and improving adoption. Ideally, improved adoption will lead to increased SmartChain activity, and therefore higher rewards for all stakers.
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y²=x3+ax+b, a=0,b=7

I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  


Nice work dev! Keep them coming.
sr. member
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I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  



Great work! The future looks great for radium.

Question...After the 3 million radium are minted, will there be enough use on the blockchain to be worth staking?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500

I am pleased to announce that
SmartChain Verify is here!  

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I like the proposed change...and thanks to the devs for all of their work on this project!!
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looks good.
does having 1440 transactions with extra data (for the payours after a high fee tx) save much in terms of bloat?

The fees are being distributed in the actual block reward, so we are eliminating the need for separate transactions. It totally eliminates the need for extra transactions, which are required in the current system. It will be a change to the actual block reward code in the wallet.

JJ

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Forget-about-it
looks good.
does having 1440 transactions with extra data (for the payours after a high fee tx) save much in terms of bloat?
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The proposed change sounds like progress to me. I like it.

definitely is progress and it clears up lot of confusion from radium / radon

always good to see rads team trying to make it easy for everyone to use even the new people to crypto Wink

 
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The proposed change sounds like progress to me. I like it.
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Radium Protocol Change Proposal

Hello Friends,

     Over the past few weeks, I have had an idea running around in my head about some possible changes that i think will be beneficial to Radium and Rads. I have put a good bit of thought and testing into it, and I am now sure that it is feasible; however I want to get some community feedback. Please stick with me, as this has ended up being a rather long post.

     For the sake of this discussion, a “Smart Transaction” refers to any smartchain actions that write data into the blockchain. Example operations include creating an account, recording a file fingerprint/hash, or placing text in the blockchain. Actions such as reading text notes, or verifying a file with One Click Verify are read-only and do not require writing to the blockchain and are not “Smart Transactions”. Additionally “SmartChain” will be referred to as “SC”.

     Over a year ago, when I was designing the original SC protocol, I decided that we would need to charge a fee for immortalizing data in the blockchain, and that that fee should be returned to the radium holders as a bonus coins, in addition to the standard block reward. At that time, the simple way of accomplishing this was to require high-fee transactions for smart transactions, causing the fees to be awarded to whoever staked the next block. The problem with this system however is that the bonus coins would be awarded all in one lump, and the individual chance of receiving a bonus would be low.
In an attempt to spread the fees out more evenly and make the system more fair, I developed the Radon asset, and Slow Decay. This is the current model, and it requires a person to send several high-fee transactions over a period of time using the Slow Decay process. In return for these high-fee transactions in which the user is charged Radium, they are rewarded with Radon is then used use to perform Smart Transactions. This system does successfully spread out the fees and increased the fairness of the system, however it was not without issue.

     The biggest difficulty with the current Radon-Decay system is that it is complicated and not user friendly. The user must plan ahead, initiate the Slow Decay process, and then wait to accumulate enough Radon to perform whatever Smart Transaction(s) they may want to perform. Additionally, it only does a mediocre job at spreading out the bonuses among the stakers. A second issue is that the Radon-Decay system causes some degree of bloat. The repeated high-fee transactions required to generate Radon accumulate, and will eventually have a measurable impact on the size of the blockchain. Thirdly, and most important to me, the Radon-Decay code is complicated and difficult to maintain correctly. It introduces several places where coding errors could occur, and it also significantly increases the time required to sync the SC. Having considered all the above (and lots of additional coding nuances i won’t bore you with) I have come up with the following solution;

Eliminate the Radon-Decay system, and replace it with a new wallet based solution where all transactions fees are paid out over over a span of 1440 blocks.

     Let me explain. Currently, if someone was to perform a transaction with a fee of 1 RAD, the person who staked that block would be rewarded with the standard 1 RAD block reward, AND the 1 RAD transaction fee, for a total of 2 RADS for the one block. Under the proposed system, the usual 1 RAD would be awarded for the block, but the 1 RAD fee would be evenly divided among the next 1440 blocks. This means, that EVERYONE who stakes a block in the 24 hours after a high fee transaction, would receive a bonus. In the case above, instead of one lucky person receiving a block worth 2 RADs and everyone else only getting 1 RADS, all the blocks in the next 24 hours would be worth 1 + (bonus/1440) rads.

     This system solves MANY problems. First, it gets rid of the complicated Radon-Decay system, and allows users to perform Smart Transactions like account creation and various Proof-Of-Existance nearly instantly. There will be no more waiting for Radium to decay to Radon, and no more confusion between the two. I think that this will eliminate a huge barrier to acceptance that Radium has faced. Second, the original idea of rewarding those who are staking coins is not only maintained but improved. The staking rewards will be more even and more fair than before. Even those who are only taking small amounts of coins have a reasonable chance of receiving a bonus. Third, the bonus rewards will be visible on the block explorer, allowing potential investors to see the bonuses on the blockchain in real time. Forth: it will reduce blockchain bloat in the long run. Fifth: It will make my life a lot easier, not needing to update and maintain the Radium-Decay code, giving me more time to spend on developing new technology to incorporate into Radium. It opens the door for web based integrations, and perhaps even a fully functional web based SmartChain interface that could function without a local wallet.

Under the new system, All a new user would need to do is buy some Radium off the exchange, fill out the registration form, and click register, and accept the fee in Radium. Quick, clean, simple, and easy.

     And now for the potential issues. First, in order to implement the above system, we will have to make changes to the core wallet code. This will require another hard fork. While the risk of any significant issues are very low, performing a hard fork takes a lot of planning and time. Second, the code to distribute the transaction fees across many blocks is brand new (to the best of my knowledge) and there is no existing code base to look to for guidance. While we have been successfully testing this new code on the test net, and would never fork until we have tested everything we could possible test on testnet, the possibility of bugs still exists. I would also have to offer a Radon buyback, to replace the Radon people generated through decay.

     If you are still reading, and I have not put you to sleep or worse, i applaud your perseverance. I am specifically looking for feedback, suggestions, and criticisms to this proposal. If i was not clear on any of the above points, and a point needs expanded, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Stop by our Slack channel for a chat, or leave a message here.

Looking forward to your insight,

JJ12880

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