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legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
September 20, 2011, 09:30:53 AM
Let’s see if this can develop into something bigger.

It will not go higher then $7.
Dead cat doesn't jump.
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
September 20, 2011, 09:19:32 AM
Grab the popcorn.  Price action is beginning to get interesting.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
September 20, 2011, 09:01:20 AM
a few recent bullish factors:  squashing of the alt chains, Gavins patches to prevent similar vulnerabilities like DDoS protection and Geist Geld fix, bottoming out in sentiment via selling capitulation, Congressional mention of Bitcoin.
How about this: http://www.sibos.com/conferencedata/pages/session_details.page?sessionID=session_2455aa96-7a25-4fa3-89eb-f24f8fc0ee16

Personally, I’m already up now from where I was when the price was 10$ (where I sold and bought multiple times on the way down), thanks to the bears who donated me coins.

Let’s see if this can develop into something bigger.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 20, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
Top of the morning, everyone!  Awaked to the beautiful ramped price up what 60% or so off the bottom?  Love the smell of Burning Bears!

About 30% from this week's low. 40% since 9 Sept. Have we been lower? Anyone worried this puppy just went parabolic?

6.62 from 4.18 = 58%.  sorry off by 2%

no such thing as a parabola at these bombed out levels.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 251
FirstBits: 168Bc
September 20, 2011, 08:55:40 AM
Top of the morning, everyone!  Awaked to the beautiful ramped price up what 60% or so off the bottom?  Love the smell of Burning Bears!

About 30% from this week's low. 40% since 9 Sept. Have we been lower? Anyone worried this puppy just went parabolic?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 20, 2011, 08:55:12 AM
a few recent bullish factors:  squashing of the alt chains, Gavins patches to prevent similar vulnerabilities like DDoS protection and Geist Geld fix, bottoming out in sentiment via selling capitulation, Congressional mention of Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
September 20, 2011, 08:54:06 AM
New high, 6.79! BUY BUY BUY!
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
September 20, 2011, 08:52:16 AM
How many people owned bitcoins in April? How many bought in as the price rose before June? How many people own bitcoins today? How many people will buy in as bitcoin doubles to $8 then $16? The pond gets bigger each rally.

If bitcoin can sustain a long rally then it will naturally attract a lot more speculators and the price will go parabolic.  We've seen this before.  We know how it ends.  People like to say 'it's different this time'.  It really isn't.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
September 20, 2011, 08:50:58 AM
Indeed, forget price stability for a few years.

Ideally, Bitcoin will just rally strongly in bursts over time, until it is valued in 3 or 4 digits, when it should get much more stable due to a more mature market. I imagine that Bitcoin will first have to prove its utility as a store of value, and from there can be used as a genuine currency – as unit of account.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 20, 2011, 08:49:43 AM
Top of the morning, everyone!  Awaked to the beautiful ramped price up what 60% or so off the bottom?  Love the smell of Burning Bears!
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 251
FirstBits: 168Bc
September 20, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
How many people owned bitcoins in April? How many bought in as the price rose before June? How many people own bitcoins today? How many people will buy in as bitcoin doubles to $8 then $16? The pond gets bigger each rally.

Looking at volatility, two weeks of bitcoin exchange rates are similar to one year of NASDAQ, and I don't know, a century of gold purchasing power?
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 251
September 20, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Uhm, sorry... I didn't mean it would go up fast and just stay there.

That was my main reason to say people should relax - whether it goes down or up. Buying and selling too high or too low means just causes an unstable market and unless you are a day-trader just means you will cut yourself. Yes, day trading is nice. It is easy and one can profit with relatively low risk. It also evens out the market, but I really want Bitcoin to become more stable. I love this currency. It has pretty much everything I want a currency to have. One can simply do a few clicks and it arrives. That's it!

Paypal is ugly, has fees, can easily be tracked and if it's against their rules (or if they just see it fit), they will close you account and mess up everything for you. Also all these online currencies can easily be kill switched, which really sucks and scares me. They force you to trust single entities and usually these are folks that just want to make money and do everything to get it from you. I don't want to trust someone like that.

I want to use Bitcoin for my day to day stuff. This would be awesome. Of course I am realist enough to know that this might take some time. We are still a huge step away from that and yes, it can fail, because everything can fail. See Euro, see USD, see dictatorships, ...

But when I installed Bitcoin (I found it while browsing Source Forge projects) I didn't do so because I wanted to make money. Bitcoins weren't really offering anything for it. I had a few thousand Bitcoins and traded them for like 20 USD, just because I thought it was a nice thing to use this currency for actually buying things. It's still the only thing I want. Easy, decentralized, open, awesome!
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1056
Affordable Physical Bitcoins - Denarium.com
September 20, 2011, 05:54:10 AM
Super bubbles rarely inflate to their former glories.  Even something as well known and almost universally valued as gold has still not recovered its inflation adjusted bubble highs of 1980.  The inflation adjusted parity figure is around $2700/oz.
I don't think this is a good comparison at all. Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years, I think the bubbles of gold go way back and for it to be more relevant to Bitcoin we'd need to know more. Bitcoin is 2 years old, I feel there's room for ups and downs MUCH larger than what we've seen so far.

This depends on how big Bitcoin becomes. We are heading into this new "bubble" from a fundamentally much larger base than before the last peak, so I surely think there's potential for a higher peak than before. But as I said earlier, the way there will most likely be bumpier and slower.

Again, comparison to gold or stock bubbles is not valid. Those were true peak situations. Bitcoin is in the very beginning. It doesn't compare. Of course if you think that Bitcoin has accomplished all it's ever going to accomplish, then you can argue that there's merit to a comparison. But I think that's silly.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1056
Affordable Physical Bitcoins - Denarium.com
September 20, 2011, 05:45:16 AM
I do agree that for a few reasons the way up won't be as easy as it was the last time. One big reason is that people will fall into bear traps very heavily this time, because they are afraid of "the bubble collapsing" on them. If enough people go into this mindset we might be seeing a lot of mini-crashes on the way up.

The other factor is that the miner network is much larger than it was before, meaning there's more electricity to pay for. But I think this factor is negated by the fact that the amount of speculators and investors that know about Bitcoin at this stage is much larger than before, so not really worried about that, seeing that most of the price movement come from them anyway.

In conclusion I'd say that what we're seeing now is a real rally and we're definitely on the way up, but it'll be a bumpy ride because some people will be very cautious. People don't want to buy high and sell low, unfortunately many did last time. Now a larger percentage of the people involved will take less risks, I think.
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
September 20, 2011, 05:44:28 AM
I think the current price is pretty realistic.  Could jump or drop by 50% (a figure I'm pulling out of my ass to demonstrate a point) but I wouldn't expect any super rally to $20 or beyond anytime soon.

Super bubbles rarely inflate to their former glories.  Even something as well known and almost universally valued as gold has still not recovered its inflation adjusted bubble highs of 1980.  The inflation adjusted parity figure is around $2700/oz.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
September 20, 2011, 04:58:27 AM
Don't count your dicks before they snatch.

The Bitcoin economy simply isn't large enough to sustain itself at a price that's significantly higher than its production cost (electricity, time, cost of current economic infrastructure, etc.). 

I think the current price is pretty realistic.  Could jump or drop by 50% (a figure I'm pulling out of my ass to demonstrate a point) but I wouldn't expect any super rally to $20 or beyond anytime soon.
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 251
September 20, 2011, 03:35:47 AM
I find it funny. New people (who haven't been here for a year or longer) must always have heart attacks.

RELAX!

Prices go up and down. That's normal. You most likely weren't here when it was .50 -> .1 -> 10 -> 20 -> 30 in a very short time frame, while it took ages to reach .50. Then there was someone who threw in a lot of sell orders (to rebuy them at a cheaper price) and lots of people were scared and the price dropped. Also because Silkroad went down, the forum was under attack and stuff. Just be relaxed, use Bitcoins to directly buy goods, which usually is cheaper for you and has a positive effects on the economy (meaning the value of BTCs will probably rise). Also, if you relax, you won't have a heart attack and that will make your health insurance and the people who like you happy. Smiley
hero member
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Merit: 501
betwithbtc.com
September 20, 2011, 12:59:31 AM

Nothing to add?

I did NOT expect that last one! I was busy replying a post, switched to Goxlive as it was unfolding. I sold at 5.75!

I think I actually missed those rally pics  Grin

It's been a while

It's definitely time to start them up again.  This is the rizzle dizzle.
full member
Activity: 174
Merit: 100
September 20, 2011, 12:56:54 AM

Nothing to add?

I did NOT expect that last one! I was busy replying a post, switched to Goxlive as it was unfolding. I sold at 5.75!

I think I actually missed those rally pics  Grin

It's been a while
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1009
Legen -wait for it- dary
September 20, 2011, 12:10:09 AM


Nothing to add?

I did NOT expect that last one! I was busy replying a post, switched to Goxlive as it was unfolding. I sold at 5.75!
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