I have read about how RNG works. But I always forget it after some time. But it doesn't really matter that much. Do we check each and every output released by these generators? Can we even check whether the generator isn't broken and its implementation is totally working? I don't think so. We mostly just trust that it is being audited and therefore working properly.
Most if not all crypto casinos are provably fair. It means its fairness can be verified and proven by any single gambler. I have tried and experimented with it in the past. But then I still don't check every result of a dice game whether it is fair or not. I think nobody does it.
Topic: Random Number Generator and it's importance in Online Casinos - page 2. (Read 548 times)
A reputable platform will never compromise on its quality of service only to gain an advantage of a few bucks over a player as they see the wider picture and understand how crucial it is to maintain the trust and reputation among the community as a gambling platform's reputation is a very sensitive matter, if a small issue comes up, every user becomes cautious and start doubting the trustworthiness of the platform.
And, if we talk about a casino that is new and isn't so popular or has much of a reputation or trust from the community, they may manipulate bets and stuff to cheat their players. If they do so, a normal gambler wouldn't really notice but someone with a technical background would notice and start questioning the authenticity of the platform right away.
And even if no one notices this will still have a massive effect anyway, one of the things that attract gamblers to a particular casino is to read the success stories of other gamblers, not only as they picture themselves having the same success, but also because from those stories they realize that casino is willing to make those big payments to their winners, however in a casino in which the results were manipulated then no one will win big, and as such they will not have those successful stories which can bring a lot of traffic to their website. And, if we talk about a casino that is new and isn't so popular or has much of a reputation or trust from the community, they may manipulate bets and stuff to cheat their players. If they do so, a normal gambler wouldn't really notice but someone with a technical background would notice and start questioning the authenticity of the platform right away.
In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
And in some cases, there is surely a gambler that knows technically how to determine deeply the fairness of that site.But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
For sure, if they found something strange, they will question that said site.
Again as I mentioned, these reputable sites won't do some sh*t regarding the fairness of the game. That is something not make sense to do knowing how hard it is to gain people's trust and that it needs several years in making to make it happen.
And, if we talk about a casino that is new and isn't so popular or has much of a reputation or trust from the community, they may manipulate bets and stuff to cheat their players. If they do so, a normal gambler wouldn't really notice but someone with a technical background would notice and start questioning the authenticity of the platform right away.
RNG is really important in casinos. It is important in gambling websites and any platform that involves gambling particularly those games which are luck-based because the results should be unbiased and as fair as possible. If there is no RNG, people will doubt the credibility of the outcomes most especially in slot games because it might be rigged and programmed to be in favor of the house which in this case, players will continue to lose due to low odds of winning. The good thing is, casinos do not handle the RNG. They have no access to it so that the game will be fair for both parties. There's a certain company which they get their RNGs on their specific games to draw numbers like you said, which is as random as possible.
But there are also websites, the fake and scam ones who do not have company where they get RNG, and rather make their own program and algorithm to show results in favor of the house to rip off the players. Hence, one must really do his research in order to not fall victim in these kind of sites.
But there are also websites, the fake and scam ones who do not have company where they get RNG, and rather make their own program and algorithm to show results in favor of the house to rip off the players. Hence, one must really do his research in order to not fall victim in these kind of sites.
They won’t think about their profit or loss in the gambling site.Their are lot of gambling techniques and strategies to earn from gambling sites.But such one should be created on your own,because if you copy some others.It won’t be the your profit or loss,then we don’t know whether it works fully.If you get loss,you will started to blame others for the loss.Instead of blaming others create your own strategy to win or lose from the gambling sites.
I mean, knowing how the system works, including how their randomness is generated is key if you want to build a strategy to reduce your chance of losing. Unless you're talking about sports or something similar, it is difficult to dismiss how their RNG is generated. Sure, you don't look for profit but if you play on a guaranteed loss I doubt you'll have fun either.But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
It is not a bad idea to regularly test whether a platform is still serving its users as promised or silently change its algorithm to favor their side more. The recent case of Chipmixer shows that even an arguably popular platform can still hide something from its customers, even if they claim otherwise. It is also a good check and balance, if we can even use that term to describe this. if CMIIW. Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.
yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.
Most of the gamblers ideology is to get some fun from the gambling site.They won’t think about their profit or loss in the gambling site.Their are lot of gambling techniques and strategies to earn from gambling sites.But such one should be created on your own,because if you copy some others.It won’t be the your profit or loss,then we don’t know whether it works fully.If you get loss,you will started to blame others for the loss.Instead of blaming others create your own strategy to win or lose from the gambling sites.
An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.
yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.
In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
And in some cases, there is surely a gambler that knows technically how to determine deeply the fairness of that site.
For sure, if they found something strange, they will question that said site.
Again as I mentioned, these reputable sites won't do some sh*t regarding the fairness of the game. That is something not make sense to do knowing how hard it is to gain people's trust and that it needs several years in making to make it happen.
Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.
I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos. At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.
Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.
An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.
That somehow is true, very few are looking at the provable fairness of the casino, once it is already established.
If you will ask players here on top casinos, if they are checking the fairness of their bet, high likely that they will say no.
In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.
Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.
I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos. At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.
Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.
An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.
Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.
I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.
At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.
Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.
I'm not sure if calling it "Random Number Generator" is the right term for this because the result from each bet comes from a crypto number generator, let me explain...
The result from the bet comes from the user seed and the client seed, normally mixed with the nonce, and that sting gets encrypted with sha256, and the last digits from that string (in hex format) get transformed to another format like decimal and there is where the bet result comes from. So, it's a crypto function behind it and not a random function.
The result from the bet comes from the user seed and the client seed, normally mixed with the nonce, and that sting gets encrypted with sha256, and the last digits from that string (in hex format) get transformed to another format like decimal and there is where the bet result comes from. So, it's a crypto function behind it and not a random function.
And always remember, gambling is played for fun, not to make money. I don't find games like slots, roulette, dice and crash to be interesting enough, so I avoid them. I don't avoid them, because I'll lose money, I avoid them because they don't seem entertaining to me.
In reality, there are many gamblers out there who bet to get big money and profits, things like this naturally happen because everyone will definitely take advantage of all the ways that can provide large amounts of money, such as gambling.From the observations and experience that I have gained, if you want big profits in gambling, it is better to choose to make sports bets because there we can easily get a win if we can understand and understand all the matches that are taking place.
If games like slots, roulette, dice, and crash can't make you feel fun, then what kind of game do you like to be able to have fun while playing?
Like @davis said, gambling is meant to be for fun but if one can't fight this urge then you are right, that they better play sports betting because this wasn't totally based on luck but they can increase their chances of winning as long as they will dedicate time for research and analysis but again it will be better to not do over betting.
Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.
I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.
At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.
Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.
You could be right and I'm wrong, but I think that whatsoever is being programed to function, could actually be made to cheat.
Well, you're actually wrong. Some systems are designed to be trustworthy by using cryptography that prevents anyone from tampering with the outcome. Bitcoin transactions are also secured using cryptographic algorithms that ensure only the intended recipient can access and use the funds. Similarly, provably fair mechanisms use cryptography to make sure that data cannot be changed.
Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.
As a gambler have you ever read up on how the RNG works in online casino games, or do you simply trust that it's functioning properly?
As a gambler have you ever read up on how the RNG works in online casino games, or do you simply trust that it's functioning properly?
Of course, the role of RNG in an online casino is probably crucial both for the institution itself and for players who need to be sure of its honest use, but this can only take place in an online casino that uses and, most importantly, has proven its trust, but this requires compliance with the rules of the game and control, otherwise the players will simply leave.
Indeed. I don't hassle my time with everything to check their corresponding systems as long as I know they are trustworthy. I tend to sign up on the reputed casinos considering their codes are checked by trusted devs as well in the industry.
How is possible we can check their codes in the first place? either the casino or the games are closed sources, because if they're revealing all of their codes, the other developer can copy paste the codes and create the copycat version. They only give explanation about the provably fair system's work and how to verify your bet, that's all. AFAIK there's a casino ever reporting a shady gambling provider in the past, so just stick with the old gambling provider. 
As a gambler have you ever read up on how the RNG works in online casino games, or do you simply trust that it's functioning properly?
As far as I know it's the tool that makes most casinos online being provably fair. I think I trust that functions properly and not gonna hassle myself to think it's not when I am playing. I just want to play on casinos that don't want to cheat this system so that it won't be a bother if the provably fair system works.And so far, I have never checked the system because I trust the casino.
And I also believe that the system is already working properly because if not, the casino will not be able to have many members and the casino can get a bad name among other casinos.
We also have the best casinos on this forum that don't cheat users with these things, making us feel comfortable playing gambling in the casino.
As a gambler have you ever read up on how the RNG works in online casino games, or do you simply trust that it's functioning properly?
As far as I know it's the tool that makes most casinos online being provably fair. I think I trust that functions properly and not gonna hassle myself to think it's not when I am playing. I just want to play on casinos that don't want to cheat this system so that it won't be a bother if the provably fair system works.And so far, I have never checked the system because I trust the casino.
And I also believe that the system is already working properly because if not, the casino will not be able to have many members and the casino can get a bad name among other casinos.
We also have the best casinos on this forum that don't cheat users with these things, making us feel comfortable playing gambling in the casino.
As a gambler have you ever read up on how the RNG works in online casino games, or do you simply trust that it's functioning properly?
Personally no. I don't bother to read anything about RNG, Provably works, and anything about fairness.
The reason is, there should be many technical people that will look further at it and that's what I'm waiting for.
Aside from that, reputation is what matters to me. I doubt a reputable site will ruin its reputation to do some cheating.
In fact, most famous sites have a lot of reputation to uphold and I'm sure they earn a lot more money working honestly (casinos are highly profitable) than robbing users.
Those who steal from users will not do this eventually, but with increasing frequency and this will certainly draw attention and probably "annoy" someone who sooner or later will start investigating and discover the problem of "probably fair ".
However, in addition to trust, it is necessary to understand a little of how this works, because surely you must have heard that phrase that says: Don't trust, check!
Knowing superficially how an RNG based system works is the basics that every regular bettor should know.
Eventually, it is also very interesting that the user himself checks his bets on his own, in addition to the site's own tools, there are some third-party tools that help you with this.
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