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September 08, 2021, 11:26:37 AM
#47
However, there was a big brouhaha some months ago about you plagiarizing stuff, and there was evidence presented if I remember correctly--but I didn't pay it much attention at the time, because it was someone else's investigation and the translation aspect of it diverted my attention away from it.

That's exactly what the big buzz is. But the big hype does not add to the righteousness of those who organized it. If airfinex really found some kind of plagiarism on me, then I would go to the place where okapoka124 or the recently rehabilitated Mpamaegbu is now sitting. But that did not happen. Because there was no plagiarism. There is a copy-paste with links at the end of each article. There are google translations from Russian to English with links at the end. I do not refuse this. But since when did we start calling copy-paste with links plagiarism? It is only in the fantasy of nullius, airfinex and the like that is considered plagiarism. But let them think so as much as they like, I am not obliged to correspond to their subjective convictions. The forum requires me to confirm any copy-paste with a link. There is no regulation where this link should be, at the beginning or at the end. But it has to be. I fully complied with these requirements and therefore they did not give me any ban.

As for their line of accusation. At first, they tried to accuse me of the fact that if I copy something, then the links to the source should be at the beginning, not at the end. It's funny where this is indicated, other than their imagination?

Then they clung to the word I at the beginning of my sentence.

In this article I would like to touch upon
In this article I would like to touch upon
In this article I would like to touch upon

I cannot think of how one could show the "intent of passing work off as one's own" any more than an opening sentence like this.

But I easily explained it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

The essence of this explanation is that if the Russian original contained the word I, then the Google translator would translate it like this:  In this article, I would like to touch upon such, and if this word was not there initially, then like this: In this article I would like to touch upon such. Everyone can check it.

In general, if you find a native English speaker who also knows Russian, let him explain to you how the Russian phrase is different:  Xoтeлocь бы в этoй cтaтьe зaтpoнyть.... and the phrase: Я xoтeл бы в этoй cтaтьe зaтpoнyть.. Then you will understand what I mean.

Anyone who knows English and Russian well can easily check that the word I was not in the original Russian and it was generated by my auto-translator, since I cannot write in English. But no one wanted to take this into account, since this is an inconvenient argument.

Then came the accusations that I use a google translator to write posts. Lol. What does this have to do with plagiarism? Yes, at least half of the forum does not know English and translates with the help of automated tools and nobody cares about that. But if I use it, then this is some kind of malicious violation.

And there is a lot of such nonsense, which has nothing to do with the accusation of plagiarism. Anything is entwined, the hype goes, but there is no sense. Ratimov is not banned. Yes, because there is nothing, I follow all the rules of the forum regarding the design of links to the source. And if someone does not like my Google translation, then there is a report button for this, and there the moderator will figure it out. If the post is not readable at all, it will delete it.

But all this has nothing to do with plagiarism. There are just a lot of empty words and the goal is to create as much resonance as possible. You see, you also noticed this hype, and what the OP is based on, few people delve into. Well, it is written plagiarist and there are more than 100 answers in the topic? Well, it means, most likely, a plagiarist. Cheesy
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September 08, 2021, 10:29:41 AM
#45
A bet was obviously proposed here, and I think the matter should be put to rest for once and for all--though I'm just a dispassionate 3rd party here; if I were Ratimov, however, I'd probably want to clear my name so that this accusation doesn't keep popping up.  I'm curious to see what the outcome is, if any.

This is not the point at all. Why would I try to live up to my name? Before whom? Before the one who cannot provide anything but his own words?

You need to clear your name from some kind of attacks if the accusing party provides concrete evidence. And just hitting the keyboard, spreading slander, no special mind is needed.

He drove himself into a dead end by saying something without thinking. And then, when they decided to call him to account, he quickly began to translate the topic to something else, in this case, to search for some kind of plagiarism. Although his speech was not about plagiarism, but about the fact that I translated all my 400 themes from the original of other people.

A person is determined not by how much he chatters, but how much he is ready to argue this chatter. Obviously, this keyboard fighter can only chat. My bid was offered to see how he responded to my offer. He replied (veiled) that he could not prove what he said. I don't see any sense in wasting more time on this nonsense.
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September 06, 2021, 02:48:38 PM
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First, you said that all my topics are translations, then you admit the thought that I am the author of some topics. You decide if all of my topics are translations or not all?  Cheesy

all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

Your opinion is constantly changing, but because you are constantly throwing phrases that you are not able to explain. You don't even know the number of themes that I have created. All your conclusions are based only on how you want to see this situation.

The conditions of the problem are the same, my ~ 30 links, show me the links to the original, from which, in your opinion, I copied this text? If these 30 are not enough for you, I can throw another 30 of these like you.

Would you be confident in your words that you wrote The Pharmacist...

The problem is that Ratimov has 400 created threads, and all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

... then you would not ask for your choice

2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.

It means that you yourself are not sure of your words, but to admit that you said it without thinking, you will never have the courage.  Wink

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September 03, 2021, 01:56:09 PM
#40
As I predicted, all the forum trolls got out: airfinex, JaneAhonen, mdayonliner, eddie13, etc. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.

Here are some topics to search for:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5358059
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5357863
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5354815
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5354471
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5354125
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/averaging-helper-or-enemy-5353501
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5353061
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5352324
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351743
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351298
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351240
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350943
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350594
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350409
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350002
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5349740
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/5e44-5349539
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5349377
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5348288
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5347166
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5346191
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5345268
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5345019
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5344218
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/defi-llama-defi-protocol-tracking-5343064
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5342836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5341101

I think if you are so much confident in your words, you will quickly find translations of these topics, which I allegedly copied from other people, and the money is yours right away. And if you do not find it, you will be marked as the most common liar-troll. Is a week long enough for you to search? Cheesy Good luck.  Wink
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September 08, 2021, 10:58:14 AM
#39
I don't see any sense in wasting more time on this nonsense.
Fair enough; I don't have any problem with you, Ratimov.  However, there was a big brouhaha some months ago about you plagiarizing stuff, and there was evidence presented if I remember correctly--but I didn't pay it much attention at the time, because it was someone else's investigation and the translation aspect of it diverted my attention away from it.  The moderators not taking action against you also made me think the accusations were false, so I just forgot all about it.

You are correct, you don't need to clear anything up.  It's up to the accuser to prove wrongdoing, but I just figured you'd want this issue to go away forever.  It might anyway, who knows?  Anyway, I'm bowing out of this matter and will leave it to airfinex to do whatever he's going to do as far as presenting evidence of plagiarism and so forth.
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September 08, 2021, 10:15:53 AM
#38
A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.
Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.
Quoting all of this for reference. 

I'm pretty sure Ratimov has been reported for plagiarism before, since these accusations aren't new.  And I'm assuming that the mods haven't found any merit in those claims, since he hasn't been banned yet.  Does anyone think I'm way off base in those assumptions?  I really have no idea whether Ratimov plagiarized anything or not, as I haven't delved into it myself (and if there's translation involved, I probably wouldn't be able to prove much with my skills). 

A bet was obviously proposed here, and I think the matter should be put to rest for once and for all--though I'm just a dispassionate 3rd party here; if I were Ratimov, however, I'd probably want to clear my name so that this accusation doesn't keep popping up.  I'm curious to see what the outcome is, if any.
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September 06, 2021, 05:10:37 PM
#37
I believe that any allegations alleged to someone suppose to have a concrete evidence, and besides if someone is been ban here base on his little error or a mistake, the reporter is not going go home with the community entirely, so i prefer when you notice a fellow user fault or lapses in the forum you as well pm the user for correction of his lapses in order to redeem it's account because no benefit of banning a reputable user.

I notice that the forum make us to relate with people we are not familiar with and at a point we become friends, i think being a brother's keeper or fellow user's watch dog will be of benefit than creating enemity that will leads to destroy another user reputation.
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September 06, 2021, 02:21:15 PM
#36
A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.
Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.
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September 03, 2021, 12:49:20 PM
#35
We will see..
How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?
The problem is that Ratimov has 400 created threads, and all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

Therefore, it is impossible to find something in this heap of shit.

I do think he's setting a bad example though, and I think plagiarism rules could be improved. So if anything, you may want to focus your energy on adjusting the rules in a separate topic (in Meta). You could use Ratimov as an example for your arguments, but don't make it about him.
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August 29, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
#34
We will see..
How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?  I assume you've reported one or more of Ratimov's posts as being plagiarized, and even if you didn't my guess is that the mods have seen this thread--and yet no action has been taken, and it's been 8 months since it was started.

As I said in a recent post, nobody here is a friend of mine, so if someone deserves a ban then they should get it (including Ratimov).  That doesn't take away from his excellent analysis of the alt account ring he researched and exposed, though.
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August 29, 2021, 12:00:29 PM
#33
Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..

I think you will not suffer for long on this score and in the end you will come to humility.

We will see..
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plagiarizing is violation of rules

user Ratimov should be banned
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If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..
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If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

It's a pity that I have just read these vile posts from ScumBuster just now.

Keep going abusing trust, idiot. Writing about rape and pissing on people on trust. Nothing to do with trade risk. You sound like a brat child. You lost signature payment for your trust abuse and plagiarize. Next you lose DT position.
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Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.
Having proofs for a local poster is really difficult as you don't have the necessary correct translation and machine translation misleads readers. I am neutral in this case as I don't know @Ratimov personally and most of the things that I know of him/her is from what I see in the posts that involves him/her. My take on this thing is for the people that accuses @Ratimov of plagiarism to provide proof as @bitmover says but we also need to have an indie translator so that there is no possibility of being bought of or being biased which solves @bitmover's problem about not trusting translations.
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All the most significant goals at this forum have been achieved, now can relax. Thanks to everyone who supported me and appreciated my posts. Smiley

Almost. I would very appreciate translations of Bitcoin Wiki pages into Russian.  Smiley

No really, it's a great idea. I wonder where most Russians read Bitcoin stuff from when most sites are in English?
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Umm guys..
We have a complete newb on DT1, who has been kicked from his sig camp for basically sig spamming/merit farming through the deceptive use of google translate (bordering on outright plagiarism), is throwing out shit negative ratings of nothing but personal insults for many of those who speak of it, shit positive ratings, and leaving retaliatory exclusions for basically anyone who says anything or excludes him..

Maybe it’s time for some ~Ratimov action ya think???


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ratimov-plagiarizer-and-now-trust-abuser-5303363
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

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Add me to the list for receiving a retaliatory exclusion..

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It is foolish to compare me to this profile, but if you listed 10 people, I could say if I am on this list or not.

ScumBuster, Please refrain from posting in my topic.

You create FUD, and against the background of your messages people can perceive my arguments with disdain.

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I've only just come across this thread.

I added three UID's to my trust list who were finalists in the "Newbie of the year" competition.  My choices were based on either their merit scores were off the charts, or like Ratimov, have contributed to the Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III thread.

He was warned by LoyceV about his copypaste and improper referencing 3 months ago.He ignored warnings, left us few bad feedbacks without any evidence and continued with same practice until airfinex started his thread.Then he got scared.His whole post history is full of topics like that.

This is the only mention of that user in this entire thread.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=airfinex - 12/5/2020 6:25:10 PM    woke up

The OP:

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=ScumBuster - 12/5/2020 10:49:43 PM    woke up




@LoyceV 's Week 101:

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h/2508915.html

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Trust list for: ScumBuster (Trust: awaiting update) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h)
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ScumBuster Trusts these users' judgement:
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ScumBuster Distrusts these users' judgement:
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ScumBuster's judgement is Trusted by:
1. NEW airfinex (Trust: awaiting update) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~ScumBuster's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW Ratimov (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 3042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
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TL;DR

ScumBuster and airfinex's entire post history is attacking @lovesmayfamilis and later @Ratimov.  They both wake up the same day within hours of each-other and in week 101 create DT trust lists - as of this week they both distrust four or five identical UID's.  (See also week 102)

Likewise, airfinex's sole user that trusts them, koks and marihuanna also creates their trust/distrust list in week 101.  Both have identical users they trust (and trust banned users too)

ScumBuster and koks and marihuanna have near identical distrust lists.




The three users who trust koks and marihuanna were last active 60 days ago.

Registration Date:7/22/2019 7:29:58 AM (Active 66 days ago)  -  koks and marihuanna

Registration Date:12/31/2020 6:23:33 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  ssss57ssss2ss
Registration Date:12/31/2020 7:45:48 PM (Active 60 days ago)  -  RUtrolls
Registration Date:12/31/2020 8:19:09 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI

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Trust list for: koks and marihuanna (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-02-27_Sat_09.07h)
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koks and marihuanna's judgement is Trusted by:
1. ssss57ssss2ss (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. RUtrolls (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


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