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September 08, 2021, 12:26:37 PM
#47
However, there was a big brouhaha some months ago about you plagiarizing stuff, and there was evidence presented if I remember correctly--but I didn't pay it much attention at the time, because it was someone else's investigation and the translation aspect of it diverted my attention away from it.

That's exactly what the big buzz is. But the big hype does not add to the righteousness of those who organized it. If airfinex really found some kind of plagiarism on me, then I would go to the place where okapoka124 or the recently rehabilitated Mpamaegbu is now sitting. But that did not happen. Because there was no plagiarism. There is a copy-paste with links at the end of each article. There are google translations from Russian to English with links at the end. I do not refuse this. But since when did we start calling copy-paste with links plagiarism? It is only in the fantasy of nullius, airfinex and the like that is considered plagiarism. But let them think so as much as they like, I am not obliged to correspond to their subjective convictions. The forum requires me to confirm any copy-paste with a link. There is no regulation where this link should be, at the beginning or at the end. But it has to be. I fully complied with these requirements and therefore they did not give me any ban.

As for their line of accusation. At first, they tried to accuse me of the fact that if I copy something, then the links to the source should be at the beginning, not at the end. It's funny where this is indicated, other than their imagination?

Then they clung to the word I at the beginning of my sentence.

In this article I would like to touch upon
In this article I would like to touch upon
In this article I would like to touch upon

I cannot think of how one could show the "intent of passing work off as one's own" any more than an opening sentence like this.

But I easily explained it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

The essence of this explanation is that if the Russian original contained the word I, then the Google translator would translate it like this:  In this article, I would like to touch upon such, and if this word was not there initially, then like this: In this article I would like to touch upon such. Everyone can check it.

In general, if you find a native English speaker who also knows Russian, let him explain to you how the Russian phrase is different:  Xoтeлocь бы в этoй cтaтьe зaтpoнyть.... and the phrase: Я xoтeл бы в этoй cтaтьe зaтpoнyть.. Then you will understand what I mean.

Anyone who knows English and Russian well can easily check that the word I was not in the original Russian and it was generated by my auto-translator, since I cannot write in English. But no one wanted to take this into account, since this is an inconvenient argument.

Then came the accusations that I use a google translator to write posts. Lol. What does this have to do with plagiarism? Yes, at least half of the forum does not know English and translates with the help of automated tools and nobody cares about that. But if I use it, then this is some kind of malicious violation.

And there is a lot of such nonsense, which has nothing to do with the accusation of plagiarism. Anything is entwined, the hype goes, but there is no sense. Ratimov is not banned. Yes, because there is nothing, I follow all the rules of the forum regarding the design of links to the source. And if someone does not like my Google translation, then there is a report button for this, and there the moderator will figure it out. If the post is not readable at all, it will delete it.

But all this has nothing to do with plagiarism. There are just a lot of empty words and the goal is to create as much resonance as possible. You see, you also noticed this hype, and what the OP is based on, few people delve into. Well, it is written plagiarist and there are more than 100 answers in the topic? Well, it means, most likely, a plagiarist. Cheesy
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September 08, 2021, 11:29:41 AM
#45
A bet was obviously proposed here, and I think the matter should be put to rest for once and for all--though I'm just a dispassionate 3rd party here; if I were Ratimov, however, I'd probably want to clear my name so that this accusation doesn't keep popping up.  I'm curious to see what the outcome is, if any.

This is not the point at all. Why would I try to live up to my name? Before whom? Before the one who cannot provide anything but his own words?

You need to clear your name from some kind of attacks if the accusing party provides concrete evidence. And just hitting the keyboard, spreading slander, no special mind is needed.

He drove himself into a dead end by saying something without thinking. And then, when they decided to call him to account, he quickly began to translate the topic to something else, in this case, to search for some kind of plagiarism. Although his speech was not about plagiarism, but about the fact that I translated all my 400 themes from the original of other people.

A person is determined not by how much he chatters, but how much he is ready to argue this chatter. Obviously, this keyboard fighter can only chat. My bid was offered to see how he responded to my offer. He replied (veiled) that he could not prove what he said. I don't see any sense in wasting more time on this nonsense.
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September 06, 2021, 03:48:38 PM
#42
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First, you said that all my topics are translations, then you admit the thought that I am the author of some topics. You decide if all of my topics are translations or not all?  Cheesy

all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

Your opinion is constantly changing, but because you are constantly throwing phrases that you are not able to explain. You don't even know the number of themes that I have created. All your conclusions are based only on how you want to see this situation.

The conditions of the problem are the same, my ~ 30 links, show me the links to the original, from which, in your opinion, I copied this text? If these 30 are not enough for you, I can throw another 30 of these like you.

Would you be confident in your words that you wrote The Pharmacist...

The problem is that Ratimov has 400 created threads, and all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

... then you would not ask for your choice

2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.

It means that you yourself are not sure of your words, but to admit that you said it without thinking, you will never have the courage.  Wink

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September 03, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
#40
As I predicted, all the forum trolls got out: airfinex, JaneAhonen, mdayonliner, eddie13, etc. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.

Here are some topics to search for:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5358059
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5357863
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5354815
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5354471
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-the-introduction-of-bitcoin-into-the-global-economy-5354125
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/averaging-helper-or-enemy-5353501
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5353061
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5352324
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351743
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351298
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5351240
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350943
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350594
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350409
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5350002
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5349740
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/5e44-5349539
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5349377
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5348288
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5347166
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5346191
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5345268
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5345019
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5344218
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/defi-llama-defi-protocol-tracking-5343064
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5342836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5341101

I think if you are so much confident in your words, you will quickly find translations of these topics, which I allegedly copied from other people, and the money is yours right away. And if you do not find it, you will be marked as the most common liar-troll. Is a week long enough for you to search? Cheesy Good luck.  Wink
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September 08, 2021, 11:58:14 AM
#39
I don't see any sense in wasting more time on this nonsense.
Fair enough; I don't have any problem with you, Ratimov.  However, there was a big brouhaha some months ago about you plagiarizing stuff, and there was evidence presented if I remember correctly--but I didn't pay it much attention at the time, because it was someone else's investigation and the translation aspect of it diverted my attention away from it.  The moderators not taking action against you also made me think the accusations were false, so I just forgot all about it.

You are correct, you don't need to clear anything up.  It's up to the accuser to prove wrongdoing, but I just figured you'd want this issue to go away forever.  It might anyway, who knows?  Anyway, I'm bowing out of this matter and will leave it to airfinex to do whatever he's going to do as far as presenting evidence of plagiarism and so forth.
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September 08, 2021, 11:15:53 AM
#38
A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.
Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.
Quoting all of this for reference. 

I'm pretty sure Ratimov has been reported for plagiarism before, since these accusations aren't new.  And I'm assuming that the mods haven't found any merit in those claims, since he hasn't been banned yet.  Does anyone think I'm way off base in those assumptions?  I really have no idea whether Ratimov plagiarized anything or not, as I haven't delved into it myself (and if there's translation involved, I probably wouldn't be able to prove much with my skills). 

A bet was obviously proposed here, and I think the matter should be put to rest for once and for all--though I'm just a dispassionate 3rd party here; if I were Ratimov, however, I'd probably want to clear my name so that this accusation doesn't keep popping up.  I'm curious to see what the outcome is, if any.
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September 06, 2021, 06:10:37 PM
#37
I believe that any allegations alleged to someone suppose to have a concrete evidence, and besides if someone is been ban here base on his little error or a mistake, the reporter is not going go home with the community entirely, so i prefer when you notice a fellow user fault or lapses in the forum you as well pm the user for correction of his lapses in order to redeem it's account because no benefit of banning a reputable user.

I notice that the forum make us to relate with people we are not familiar with and at a point we become friends, i think being a brother's keeper or fellow user's watch dog will be of benefit than creating enemity that will leads to destroy another user reputation.
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September 06, 2021, 03:21:15 PM
#36
A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.
Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.
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September 03, 2021, 01:49:20 PM
#35
We will see..
How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?
The problem is that Ratimov has 400 created threads, and all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

Therefore, it is impossible to find something in this heap of shit.

I do think he's setting a bad example though, and I think plagiarism rules could be improved. So if anything, you may want to focus your energy on adjusting the rules in a separate topic (in Meta). You could use Ratimov as an example for your arguments, but don't make it about him.
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August 29, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
#34
We will see..
How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?  I assume you've reported one or more of Ratimov's posts as being plagiarized, and even if you didn't my guess is that the mods have seen this thread--and yet no action has been taken, and it's been 8 months since it was started.

As I said in a recent post, nobody here is a friend of mine, so if someone deserves a ban then they should get it (including Ratimov).  That doesn't take away from his excellent analysis of the alt account ring he researched and exposed, though.
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August 29, 2021, 01:00:29 PM
#33
Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..

I think you will not suffer for long on this score and in the end you will come to humility.

We will see..
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plagiarizing is violation of rules

user Ratimov should be banned
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If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..
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If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

It's a pity that I have just read these vile posts from ScumBuster just now.

Keep going abusing trust, idiot. Writing about rape and pissing on people on trust. Nothing to do with trade risk. You sound like a brat child. You lost signature payment for your trust abuse and plagiarize. Next you lose DT position.
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ScumBuster

Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.
Having proofs for a local poster is really difficult as you don't have the necessary correct translation and machine translation misleads readers. I am neutral in this case as I don't know @Ratimov personally and most of the things that I know of him/her is from what I see in the posts that involves him/her. My take on this thing is for the people that accuses @Ratimov of plagiarism to provide proof as @bitmover says but we also need to have an indie translator so that there is no possibility of being bought of or being biased which solves @bitmover's problem about not trusting translations.
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All the most significant goals at this forum have been achieved, now can relax. Thanks to everyone who supported me and appreciated my posts. Smiley

Almost. I would very appreciate translations of Bitcoin Wiki pages into Russian.  Smiley

No really, it's a great idea. I wonder where most Russians read Bitcoin stuff from when most sites are in English?
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Umm guys..
We have a complete newb on DT1, who has been kicked from his sig camp for basically sig spamming/merit farming through the deceptive use of google translate (bordering on outright plagiarism), is throwing out shit negative ratings of nothing but personal insults for many of those who speak of it, shit positive ratings, and leaving retaliatory exclusions for basically anyone who says anything or excludes him..

Maybe it’s time for some ~Ratimov action ya think???


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ratimov-plagiarizer-and-now-trust-abuser-5303363
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

Bump
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Add me to the list for receiving a retaliatory exclusion..

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It is foolish to compare me to this profile, but if you listed 10 people, I could say if I am on this list or not.

ScumBuster, Please refrain from posting in my topic.

You create FUD, and against the background of your messages people can perceive my arguments with disdain.

marcel
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I've only just come across this thread.

I added three UID's to my trust list who were finalists in the "Newbie of the year" competition.  My choices were based on either their merit scores were off the charts, or like Ratimov, have contributed to the Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III thread.

He was warned by LoyceV about his copypaste and improper referencing 3 months ago.He ignored warnings, left us few bad feedbacks without any evidence and continued with same practice until airfinex started his thread.Then he got scared.His whole post history is full of topics like that.

This is the only mention of that user in this entire thread.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=airfinex - 12/5/2020 6:25:10 PM    woke up

The OP:

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=ScumBuster - 12/5/2020 10:49:43 PM    woke up




@LoyceV 's Week 101:

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h/2508915.html

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Trust list for: ScumBuster (Trust: awaiting update) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h)
Back to index

ScumBuster Trusts these users' judgement:
-

ScumBuster Distrusts these users' judgement:
-

ScumBuster's judgement is Trusted by:
1. NEW airfinex (Trust: awaiting update) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~ScumBuster's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW Ratimov (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 3042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.




TL;DR

ScumBuster and airfinex's entire post history is attacking @lovesmayfamilis and later @Ratimov.  They both wake up the same day within hours of each-other and in week 101 create DT trust lists - as of this week they both distrust four or five identical UID's.  (See also week 102)

Likewise, airfinex's sole user that trusts them, koks and marihuanna also creates their trust/distrust list in week 101.  Both have identical users they trust (and trust banned users too)

ScumBuster and koks and marihuanna have near identical distrust lists.




The three users who trust koks and marihuanna were last active 60 days ago.

Registration Date:7/22/2019 7:29:58 AM (Active 66 days ago)  -  koks and marihuanna

Registration Date:12/31/2020 6:23:33 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  ssss57ssss2ss
Registration Date:12/31/2020 7:45:48 PM (Active 60 days ago)  -  RUtrolls
Registration Date:12/31/2020 8:19:09 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI

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Trust list for: koks and marihuanna (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-02-27_Sat_09.07h)
Back to index


koks and marihuanna's judgement is Trusted by:
1. ssss57ssss2ss (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. RUtrolls (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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Bumping to show more trust abuse

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56465521
fxpc made post with direct quote from Ratimov bragging about making money from being a plagiarizer. Ratimov then leaves this trust feedback

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Liar and troll. Distributes false information that I allegedly earn money on the forum in corruption schemes.

Trust abuse. Ratimov earns money from forum from being a plagiarizer. That is a fact. Even if you think plagiarizing is not corrupt, this feedback has nothing to do with trading risk. It is more trust abuse.

I will update list in first post that you can copy and paste to exclude Ratimov and everyone who includes this abuser.

Even just disagree with Ratimov now and he gives out negative trust. Such abuse. Such plagiarism. Such scumbag. Exclude him. Ban him.

Really bad look for chipmixer
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December 27, 2020, 05:42:20 PM
#22
That being said, after several topics calling him out for plagiarism his large Merit earnings have dropped significantly:

Proves my point he has not made single good post which he wrote. All his merit are from stolen work. Scum.

I also don't like some of Ratimov's Sent feedback. It's retaliatory and goes against what I consider correct use of the Trust system.

So exclude this trust abuser.

I think I'm not alone in this, and Ratimov's DT-strength is already starting to decline a bit.

I have updated first post to remove the names of the people who have removed Ratimov. All the others should still be excluded until they stop supporting trust abusers.
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December 26, 2020, 06:12:13 AM
#21
I'll respond here because my name was mentioned. First: this isn't the first topic about Ratimov, and I think I've said everything there is to say about it already. I think Ratimov can/should improve on his references, but ultimately it's not up to me. If the forum doesn't ban him for it, he seems to have found a loophole to easily make long posts that many people appreciate.
That being said, after several topics calling him out for plagiarism his large Merit earnings have dropped significantly:
Does DarkStar know he is paying for plagiarism
See:
If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.
I always consider Trust inclusions and exclusions a bit of a "gliding scale": I usually don't (dis)agree with all ratings, but if the number gets too high, I might change my Trust list. I think I'm not alone in this, and Ratimov's DT-strength is already starting to decline a bit.
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December 26, 2020, 04:57:16 AM
#20
I hope that the moderator can set a rule that when a DT turns to a scammer, The DT that added him to his trust list will be liable to that same offence since he is vouching for him by adding him to there trust list.

So what happens to all the people who had asu or theyoungmillionaire in their trust network? Is it right to make them liable for an action they couldn't foresee?

I'm a strong proponent of the belief that if someone is liable for money they owe, it is solely their liability. They cannot share that liability with people who weren't directly involved in that act.
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December 25, 2020, 11:58:02 PM
#19
Could it be the case that Ratimov is so easily swayed by any defense of himself that he adds that person to his trust list?

Even more reason to ~Ratimov. Shit way to use trust.

It certainly would be if that's the case, but I'm just throwing out a random idea for the sake of the discussion we're having.

See my first post where he leaves feedback about "bashing your head in".

Are you referring to your original post in this thread? I don't see anything like that.
Is it in one of the Russian posts? Please provide a link to the post, even if it is in another language.
As I said most of us are lazy, and some of us are slower than others. It does no good if there isn't a public record for us to view.

... and then posts in English as if it is his own work.

From a quick-glance, and I'll admit I'm not informed on this issue - it looks like he specifically cites the sources, so isn't it a proper contribution to translate these works for a larger audience and communication between our community?

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December 25, 2020, 05:36:20 PM
#18
But he is also a massive trust abuser. Why is he on DT? Just look some of his feedback. These are all just from the last two months only! (Russian ones transalted to English using automatic translation. Ratimov knows how this works well! Hahahaha.)


You forgot negative feedback he left to nullius,also without reference and even lying

Could it be possible that Ratimov has found a way to flaunt the forum's rules, and deceive it's users into rewarding him with merit and lucrative employment?  All it takes is one click of a button to use the forum's quote feature, making it abundantly clear this work is not originally yours.

He was warned by LoyceV about his copypaste and improper referencing 3 months ago.He ignored warnings, left us few bad feedbacks without any evidence and continued with same practice until airfinex started his thread.Then he got scared.His whole post history is full of topics like that.



I read some of the thread that accused him of plagiarism, but from what I've read from everyone else he didn't actually plagiarize anything

When you start topic with In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme as online privacy and then you google translate article without adding your own content and hide real source between other links then it is plagiarism.That is what Ratimov did.He pretended that he wrote article while he only google translated article.


It is shame that Ratimov is russian merit source as their whole board is licking his ass because of that.If he wasnt they would put him on distrust list long time ago but he is useful to them and they will defend him.
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December 25, 2020, 01:40:25 PM
#17
So, if Ratimov (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/symmetrick-2627711) is being given negative trust for plagiarizing when they aren't actually plagiarizing then we as a community should take action to remove those users wrongfully leaving him trust.

I'm not wholly in agreement with that statement.  As I've said before, he hasn't technically plagiarized, at least not by the standards of the forum's rules.  But I also said:

Is that deceit intentional?...  It takes little to no effort to make it abundantly clear that you're quoting the work of others
~

Could it be possible that Ratimov has found a way to flaunt the forum's rules, and deceive it's users into rewarding him with merit and lucrative employment?  All it takes is one click of a button to use the forum's quote feature, making it abundantly clear this work is not originally yours.  By all appearances, Ratimov seems to have benefited by not clicking that button.  If some strongly feel he has done this deliberately, then I think that comes pretty darn close to the intent of plagiarism, even if it isn't technically plagiarism.  In such a situation, I think people are well within their rights to leave negative feedback, and that's not a misuse of the system.  In fact, I believe that's exactly what the system is for.  Myself, I have not come to that conclusion, but I can see how some could arrive there.

On the other hand, retaliatory feedback with no references, little substance, and lots of name-calling and subservient canines is a misuse of the system.  It certainly has no place on DT1.


he didn't actually plagiarize anything--hence he wasn't banned... mods aren't likely to do anything.

I never expected the mods to do anything, nor do I think they should.  The relative freedom we have in this forum is exceedingly rare, and I believe it's something to be celebrated.  I tend to agree that the rules were not broken, and therefore the mods should stay out of it.  

But I also believe that the situation is not so simply "black or white," and that's where the trust system comes into play.  
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December 25, 2020, 01:40:14 PM
#16
as long as he's not abusing his status I'm fine ignoring him being on it since he'll probably rotate off eventually.

Leaving ratings like whiner, dumb hysterical bitch, stupid idiot, fuckhead, raped, bash your head in, piss on your head, is abuse. If you think that is not trust abuse, then you are stupid. Death threats are also against forum rules.

Trust is for trading risk, not for name calling and death threats. If Ratimov can't control his anger, then he shouldn't be DT1. Simple.

I agree, use of such words in retaliation trust rating's by a DT1 is unethical at most and such users are harm to a drama free trust system.
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December 25, 2020, 01:17:32 PM
#15
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Diagnosis: A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money, it went off the rails and started shitting. The louder he yells, the more he's ignored. Once he got his head bashed in and everyone pissed in it and then smothered it with a cigarette so it wouldn't spill, so if you read his shit, you know what he's thinking now. Troll, alt-corner, flag and trust abuser and my personal doggie on an errand, dedicates all his posts to me just to please his master.

OK, I guess I'm just not reading stuff like the above the way you are, though it could be the translation/language barrier.  That quote is pretty damn vile, but I don't see any threats in it, just disgusting imagery.

But yeah, death threats are definitely against the rules.  If you think he's threatened you or anyone else, report it to the mods and have them handle it.  I'm a neutral party here and have no feelings about Ratimov one way or the other (though I haven't checked the feedback he's left for others yet; I should probably do that now).
jr. member
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December 25, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
#14
as long as he's not abusing his status I'm fine ignoring him being on it since he'll probably rotate off eventually.

Leaving ratings like whiner, dumb hysterical bitch, stupid idiot, fuckhead, raped, bash your head in, piss on your head, is abuse. If you think that is not trust abuse, then you are stupid. Death threats are also against forum rules.

Trust is for trading risk, not for name calling and death threats. If Ratimov can't control his anger, then he shouldn't be DT1. Simple.
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December 25, 2020, 12:46:47 PM
#13
I don't care about the merit he's earned, the rank he's achieved, or who chooses to employ him, but this:
Why is he on DT?
That's a good question.  I don't see how he's made himself trusted enough to be on DT1.
That's probably more a consequence of the rotating DT system than anything else, although obviously he got enough inclusions to make it in there in the first place.  Whether or not he deserves to be in any level of DT, as long as he's not abusing his status I'm fine ignoring him being on it since he'll probably rotate off eventually. 

I read some of the thread that accused him of plagiarism, but from what I've read from everyone else he didn't actually plagiarize anything--hence he wasn't banned.  So there's no reason to beat a dead horse, because unless someone can find evidence of him actually plagiarizing something without citing any source whatsoever, mods aren't likely to do anything. 

Has Ratimov done anything else shady?  Getting into a squabble and name-calling doesn't count in my opinion.  Anyone can get into a pissing contest here and still be trustworthy. 
jr. member
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December 25, 2020, 09:58:10 AM
#12
Could it be the case that Ratimov is so easily swayed by any defense of himself that he adds that person to his trust list?

Even more reason to ~Ratimov. Shit way to use trust.

I didn't see any, did I miss it?

Left in trust ratings. See my first post where he leaves feedback about "bashing your head in".

I asked for plagiarized content in english, and you showed me more russian text.

Did you even read the thread in Meta board? That is what he does -- he takes article in Russian, puts it in Google translate, and then posts in English as if it is his own work. The posts he makes in English are plagiarized from other Russian speakers.

If I was trusting someone based on English posts, and I found out all their English posts were stolen from Russians, I would be very angry they had fooled me and would ~ them immediately.
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December 25, 2020, 09:40:22 AM
#11
Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

Every post he makes which is longer than 2 lines is plagiarized, except the ones where he defends his plagiarizing or calls other people names like a kid.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.

So you trust him when you do not even read his trust ratings? Bad bad bad. He uses trust to insult and give death threats. This is what you are supporting when you include him. This is what chipmixer is supporting when they pay him.


I trust him based on the posts he made in ENGLISH. I cannot analyze russian posts.

I asked for plagiarized content in english, and you showed me more russian text.

You are posting in the wrong board. Nobody here can read Russian. I dont know you, so I dont trust your translations.

You need to find english material, and then post it here.
legendary
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December 25, 2020, 09:35:55 AM
#10
Profile of this abuser -- https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/symmetrick-2627711

The only people who defend and say it is not plagiarizing are people he includes on his trust list

I'm not trying to be obnoxious about asking for the profile, I just know how lazy some of us are - Thank you.

The only people who defend and say it is not plagiarizing are people he includes on his trust list

I don't think that correlation proves causation or whatever the saying is. Could it be the case that Ratimov is so easily swayed by any defense of himself that he adds that person to his trust list? That wouldn't make that user's opinion or defense any less valid through Ratimov's support of it; does that make sense? Just an idea.

Everyone objective says it is plagiarizing. Still don't know why mods don't ban.

In my opinion, these two sentences are contradictory.
The mods are objective, in this situation, and if they agreed that it was plagiarism then he would be banned.
Unless there's some conspiracy that goes deeper than I understand, in which case this thread just got a whole lot bigger.

Retaliatory feedback is wrong, doesn't matter if feedback you have been left is correct or not.
Yes, agreed

Death threats in feedback is against rules and he should be banned.

If this was in PM you can report the PM and if it was in a public post then it should be easy to point at it as evidence.
I didn't see any, did I miss it?
jr. member
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December 25, 2020, 09:24:09 AM
#9
Profile of this abuser -- https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/symmetrick-2627711

The only people who defend and say it is not plagiarizing are people he includes on his trust list -- has left positive trust to -- regularly showers with merits. Everyone objective says it is plagiarizing. Still don't know why mods don't ban.

Retaliatory feedback is wrong, doesn't matter if feedback you have been left is correct or not. Calling people names in feedback with no reference is worse. Death threats in feedback is against rules and he should be banned.

Negative trust for plagiarizing is different topic, but if you are happy to steal intellectual property then you are also happy to steal physical property.
legendary
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December 25, 2020, 09:03:44 AM
#8
Taking a step back and trying to analyze this from an "Outside" perspective is difficult. You haven't provided a link to the user in questions profile, which already makes more work for anyone looking-in. Then, I'd have to rely on soft-translations to even know what they've said. These aren't impossible hurdles, but they mean more work on the accuser's (you) part.

Something that I've picked up on over the years is that two wrongs do not make a right. So, if Ratimov (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/symmetrick-2627711) is being given negative trust for plagiarizing when they aren't actually plagiarizing then we as a community should take action to remove those users wrongfully leaving him trust. Now, I'm not saying this is the case, but what I am saying is that regardless of the context - the retaliatory negative trust is never helpful in resolving the situation. If Ratimov was wrongly tagged, the retaliatory trust makes them look childish. If they are correctly tagged, then it's clear they won't learn from their mistakes.

If you are truly bothered by him being paid in a signature campaign, then seemingly the best route would be to contact the campaign manager and see if they agree with you about it.
jr. member
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December 25, 2020, 08:54:31 AM
#7
Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144

Every post he makes which is longer than 2 lines is plagiarized, except the ones where he defends his plagiarizing or calls other people names like a kid.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.

So you trust him when you do not even read his trust ratings? Bad bad bad. He uses trust to insult and give death threats. This is what you are supporting when you include him. This is what chipmixer is supporting when they pay him.
legendary
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December 25, 2020, 08:46:38 AM
#6
ScumBuster

Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.

When he writes in English he doesn't make death threats or this kind of things.
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December 25, 2020, 08:11:34 AM
#5

Why is he on DT?

That's a good question.  I don't see how he's made himself trusted enough to be on DT1.  Most of his recent left-feedback is retaliating against those who've called him plagiarist, which is not how I believe the trust system should be used.

I fully agreed on this matter. You can be a DT without risking any money on trading to other people compared before. You just need to be friend to other DT1. I hope that the moderator can set a rule that when a DT turns to a scammer, The DT that added him to his trust list will be liable to that same offence since he is vouching for him by adding him to there trust list.

I said this statement not specifically for ratimov.
jr. member
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December 25, 2020, 08:08:04 AM
#4
OP, if you are to accuse himself as trust system abuser, keep the post bound to that issue. Why his copy paste shit again here?

Because of this --

Most of his recent left-feedback is retaliating against those who've called him plagiarist, which is not how I believe the trust system should be used.

Even if we pretend he isn't a huge plagiarizer, using the trust system as weapon to punish someone who disagrees with you (with no references!) is not correct. Using the trust system to issue death threats is not correct.

Anyway, I would say some of his feedback are not good. I'm excluding him in my trust list although that’s not going to change anything.
Again I see you are asking to exclude a lot of people, this should not be done of course. PM them about the issue first.

Thank you for standing up and not wanting the trust system to turn in to kindergarten name calling. My newbie account means I can only send 2 PMs a day, so topic is most useful. Will also remind others not to add this plagiarizing name calling child who should be banned to their trust list.

legendary
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December 25, 2020, 07:58:58 AM
#3
OP, if you are to accuse himself as trust system abuser, keep the post bound to that issue. Why his copy paste shit again here?
Anyway, I would say some of his feedback are not good. I'm excluding him in my trust list although that’s not going to change anything.
Again I see you are asking to exclude a lot of people, this should not be done of course. PM them about the issue first.
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December 25, 2020, 07:08:03 AM
#2
Everyone knows Ratimov is a huge plagiarizer and shit poster, but the staff don't ban him (not sure why).

Technicalities.  Because technically he has not broken any rules.  In his posts he includes links to the articles he's copied, translated, and pasted.  Yeah, the wording of some of the posts made it sound like he wrote the articles, which is deceitful, in my opinion.  

Is that deceit intentional?  I don't know, but I don't like plagiarism.  It's theft, plain and simple.  It takes little to no effort to make it abundantly clear that you're quoting the work of others, yet it seems like Ratimov doesn't overly concern himself with giving others credit for their work.  I suspect that the amount of merit he's earned indicates that most people aren't aware the work he posts is not originally his.  I can't recall another member who's earned so much merit by quoting the work of others, and certainly not when it was clearly the work of others.

I don't care about the merit he's earned, the rank he's achieved, or who chooses to employ him, but this:
 
Why is he on DT?

That's a good question.  I don't see how he's made himself trusted enough to be on DT1.  Most of his recent left-feedback is retaliating against those who've called him plagiarist, which is not how I believe the trust system should be used.
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December 25, 2020, 04:37:01 AM
#1
Everyone knows Ratimov is a huge plagiarizer and shit poster, but the staff don't ban him (not sure why). We all know he has not made a single good post that isn't plagiarized.

Still waiting for links to knowledgeable posts Ratimov has made which aren't copy paste. Why does no one reply?
Still waiting...

But he is also a massive trust abuser. Why is he on DT? Just look some of his feedback. These are all just from the last two months only! (Russian ones transalted to English using automatic translation. Ratimov knows how this works well! Hahahaha.)

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Stupid troll & shitposter. An errand dog that runs after its owner, if only he drew attention to it.
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Moя личнaя coбaчкa, кoтopaя тeпepь бeгaeт зa мнoй, чтoбы oбpaтить нa ceбя внимaниe.
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My personal dog, who now runs after me to attract attention.
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Stupid lying idiot and whiner.
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Бecпoлeзнaя тyпaя иcтepичкa, кoтopaя зacиpaeт paздeлы Tpeйдepы и Пoлитикa cвoими идиoтcкими пocтaми.
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Useless dumb hysterical bitch, littering the Traders and Politics sections with her idiotic posts.
Pathetic insults. No reference for any of these. He is using negative trust as a weapon, to punish someone he does not like. Totally wrong use of trust system. Very childish.

But here is the best! Look.

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Диaгнoз: Дoлбaёб c пpoбитoй гoлoвoй. Пocлe тoгo кaк eгo изнacилoвaли вce coтpyдники WEX, зaбpaв вce eгo мaмкины кoпeйки, oнo cлeтeлo c кaтyшeк и cтaлo cpaть. Чeм гpoмчe opёт, тeм бoльшe нa нeгo нe oбpaщaют внимaниe. Oднaжды eмy пpoбили гoлoвy и вce дpyжнo тyдa нaccaли и пoтoм пpитyшили пaпиpocкoй, чтoбы нe pacплecкaлocь, пoэтoмy ecли читaeтe eгo выcep, тo тeпepь знaeтe, чeм oнo дyмaeт. Tpoлль, aльт кopнepa, флaг и тpacт aбyзep и мoя личнaя coбaчкa нa пoбeгyшкax, пocвящaeт мнe вce cвoи пocты, лишь бы yгoдить cвoeмy xoзяинy.
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Diagnosis: A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money, it went off the rails and started shitting. The louder he yells, the more he's ignored. Once he got his head bashed in and everyone pissed in it and then smothered it with a cigarette so it wouldn't spill, so if you read his shit, you know what he's thinking now. Troll, alt-corner, flag and trust abuser and my personal doggie on an errand, dedicates all his posts to me just to please his master.
Talking about rape, about his mother, death threats (head bashed in), being pissed on, and more. This use of trust system would be absolutely wrong from a newbie. But from a DT1 on ChipMixer campaign!!!???

If you trust Ratimov, then you are helping to turn trust system in to a stupid joke where we just insult people. Here are uses who add Ratimov to trust network. Everyone should ~Ratimov and everyone should ~all these users until they remove this plagiarizing abuser. Here is easy to paste list.

Code:
~Ratimov
~Balthazar
~silversurfer1958
~peloso
~Timelord2067
~SiNeReiNZzz
~tmfp
~klarki
~WhiteManWhite
~ShowOff
~SPQRCoin
~my luck
~FutureBitcoin
~whyrqa
~BtcMan2009
~humerh3
~imhoneer
~CryptopreneurBrainboss
~Chrystora123
~Best_Change
~KTChampions
~Smartprofit
~Coin-1
~sheenshane
~tvplus006
~witcher_sense
~Ridcan
~bubbalex
~taikuri13
~madnessteat
~lovesmayfamilis
~1miau
~DabLjat
~FontSeli
~YOSHIE
~twiki
~elmanchez
~zasad@
~KOPHEP
~WEX-SCAM
~NotATether
~bullrun2020bro

Does DarkStar know he is paying for plagiarism and death threats?
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