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Quote from: organofcorti on March 03, 2015, 07:42:19 PM

Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 08:20:34 AM

I think when a block is found the script itself (NoMP) split it between the shares (Prop) so i`m guessing the fees will be split too.

Can you confirm that? Maybe email the people developing your pool software?

Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 08:45:54 AM

Hello ,

Maybe i`m mistaking the terms , but so far i have figured out that.

Taking your example for 43% and your estimate of 40mil shares on your pool .

43% from 40mil = ~17mil shares . On NOMP if there is 20mil shares on the found block then yes , they will be paid more (as normal) . But if miners leave on the 17th mil share and until block there is another 50 million shares the first 17mil will cost less than original (which is normal too since the block will be split between 67mil shares in the second example and between 20mil shares on the first example) .

That's true, but as kano wrote, the expected value for any share submitted before 0.43*difficulty is greater than the expected value of any share submitted before 0.43*difficulty.

All this was covered and um hashed out (heh heh) years ago.

Try reading these posts:

http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-5-back-to-basics.html?view=sidebar
http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-6-basic-probability-for.html?view=sidebar
http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-7-expected-share-values.html?view=sidebar

I can confirm that by default NOMP includes tx fees in the payout. However, I think (as you had pointed out) that the operator would be well advised to use pplns. It's a pretty simple change in the configuration. NOMP also has some pretty ugly issues with displaying statistics.

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Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 08:20:34 AM

I think when a block is found the script itself (NoMP) split it between the shares (Prop) so i`m guessing the fees will be split too.

Can you confirm that? Maybe email the people developing your pool software?

Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 08:45:54 AM

Hello ,

Maybe i`m mistaking the terms , but so far i have figured out that.

Taking your example for 43% and your estimate of 40mil shares on your pool .

43% from 40mil = ~17mil shares . On NOMP if there is 20mil shares on the found block then yes , they will be paid more (as normal) . But if miners leave on the 17th mil share and until block there is another 50 million shares the first 17mil will cost less than original (which is normal too since the block will be split between 67mil shares in the second example and between 20mil shares on the first example) .

That's true, but as kano wrote, the expected value for any share submitted before 0.43*difficulty is greater than the expected value of any share submitted ~~before~~ after 0.43*difficulty.

All this was covered and um hashed out (heh heh) years ago.

Try reading these posts:

http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-5-back-to-basics.html?view=sidebar
http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-6-basic-probability-for.html?view=sidebar
http://howtohop.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/how-to-hop-7-expected-share-values.html?view=sidebar

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Hello ,

Maybe i`m mistaking the terms , but so far i have figured out that.

Taking your example for 43% and your estimate of 40mil shares on your pool .

43% from 40mil = ~17mil shares . On NOMP if there is 20mil shares on the found block then yes , they will be paid more (as normal) . But if miners leave on the 17th mil share and until block there is another 50 million shares the first 17mil will cost less than original (which is normal too since the block will be split between 67mil shares in the second example and between 20mil shares on the first example) .

PPLNS are for big pools and such . So far we are struggling with our first block

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Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 08:20:34 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on March 03, 2015, 07:29:33 AM

Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 05:44:11 AM

Hello ,
We launched on 28.02.2015 a new NOMP setup pool since we are tired of jumping here and there . Its kinda a lottery one (but with higher chance) since its new and doesn't have much speed yet .

Pool: Drakyla Miracle Pool (It will be a miracle at the moment with 22-23TH constant if we find a block

) (Later on if we grow it probably be changed to something more serious)
Website: http://coinhash.eu (http://78.130.227.176) Both should work
Proxy: Are you a proxy pool? Options: No
Generation address: 17acJFjgsv99UZ9cZu2XR4ntW1Kj4YVFHx
Coinbase signature: The address above is signed as "Drakyla Miracle Pool" on blockchain.info
Payout method: Proportional
Fee: 0.1% at this moment (it may change at later date)
Pay Tx Reward: Yes (at least think so , its NOMP pool) .
Vardiff: options: Port 4507 = 512-4096 , Port 8192 = Constant 8192 , Port 3333= 8192-16384
Local Work: options: Stratum
Pay Orphans: Do you reward miners even if a block is orphaned? Options: No.
Min Withdrawal: There are no accounts . Payouts are directly on found block .
Merge Mining: Options: No

Regards

Thanks for posting, and good luck!

Before I add you to the list, can you:

1. Confirm that you'll be paying out transaction fees to miners, and
2. Confirm that you really want to use a proportional reward method, given that such a reward method could cause problems for you and your miners.

I think when a block is found the script itself (NoMP) split it between the shares (Prop) so i`m guessing the fees will be split too.
As for the PROP method it will stay like this . After all we are against 350PH .. its normal miners with higher rate to take higher % of the block (if found).

Regards

A prop pool means that anyone who mines there should leave when the shares reach 43% and their shares will get paid (on average) significantly more per share than the shares of anyone who stays at the pool. Then rinse and repeat each time a block is found (assuming anyone stays after 43% Tongue

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Quote from: organofcorti on March 03, 2015, 07:29:33 AM

Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 05:44:11 AM

Hello ,
We launched on 28.02.2015 a new NOMP setup pool since we are tired of jumping here and there . Its kinda a lottery one (but with higher chance) since its new and doesn't have much speed yet .

Pool: Drakyla Miracle Pool (It will be a miracle at the moment with 22-23TH constant if we find a block

) (Later on if we grow it probably be changed to something more serious)
Website: http://coinhash.eu (http://78.130.227.176) Both should work
Proxy: Are you a proxy pool? Options: No
Generation address: 17acJFjgsv99UZ9cZu2XR4ntW1Kj4YVFHx
Coinbase signature: The address above is signed as "Drakyla Miracle Pool" on blockchain.info
Payout method: Proportional
Fee: 0.1% at this moment (it may change at later date)
Pay Tx Reward: Yes (at least think so , its NOMP pool) .
Vardiff: options: Port 4507 = 512-4096 , Port 8192 = Constant 8192 , Port 3333= 8192-16384
Local Work: options: Stratum
Pay Orphans: Do you reward miners even if a block is orphaned? Options: No.
Min Withdrawal: There are no accounts . Payouts are directly on found block .
Merge Mining: Options: No

Regards

Thanks for posting, and good luck!

Before I add you to the list, can you:

1. Confirm that you'll be paying out transaction fees to miners, and
2. Confirm that you really want to use a proportional reward method, given that such a reward method could cause problems for you and your miners.

I think when a block is found the script itself (NoMP) split it between the shares (Prop) so i`m guessing the fees will be split too.
As for the PROP method it will stay like this . After all we are against 350PH .. its normal miners with higher rate to take higher % of the block (if found).

Regards

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Quote from: CoinhashEU on March 03, 2015, 05:44:11 AM

Hello ,
We launched on 28.02.2015 a new NOMP setup pool since we are tired of jumping here and there . Its kinda a lottery one (but with higher chance) since its new and doesn't have much speed yet .

Pool: Drakyla Miracle Pool (It will be a miracle at the moment with 22-23TH constant if we find a block

) (Later on if we grow it probably be changed to something more serious)
Website: http://coinhash.eu (http://78.130.227.176) Both should work
Proxy: Are you a proxy pool? Options: No
Generation address: 17acJFjgsv99UZ9cZu2XR4ntW1Kj4YVFHx
Coinbase signature: The address above is signed as "Drakyla Miracle Pool" on blockchain.info
Payout method: Proportional
Fee: 0.1% at this moment (it may change at later date)
Pay Tx Reward: Yes (at least think so , its NOMP pool) .
Vardiff: options: Port 4507 = 512-4096 , Port 8192 = Constant 8192 , Port 3333= 8192-16384
Local Work: options: Stratum
Pay Orphans: Do you reward miners even if a block is orphaned? Options: No.
Min Withdrawal: There are no accounts . Payouts are directly on found block .
Merge Mining: Options: No

Regards

Thanks for posting, and good luck!

Before I add you to the list, can you:

1. Confirm that you'll be paying out transaction fees to miners, and
2. Confirm that you really want to use a proportional reward method, given that such a reward method could cause problems for you and your miners.

CoinhashEU

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Hello ,
We launched on 28.02.2015 a new NOMP setup pool since we are tired of jumping here and there . Its kinda a lottery one (but with higher chance) since its new and doesn't have much speed yet .

Pool: Drakyla Miracle Pool (It will be a miracle at the moment with 22-23TH constant if we find a block

) (Later on if we grow it probably be changed to something more serious)
Website: http://coinhash.eu (http://78.130.227.176) Both should work
Proxy: Are you a proxy pool? Options: No
Generation address: 17acJFjgsv99UZ9cZu2XR4ntW1Kj4YVFHx
Coinbase signature: The address above is signed as "Drakyla Miracle Pool" on blockchain.info
Payout method: Proportional
Fee: 0.1% at this moment (it may change at later date)
Pay Tx Reward: Yes (at least think so , its NOMP pool) .
Vardiff: options: Port 4507 = 512-4096 , Port 8192 = Constant 8192 , Port 3333= 8192-16384
Local Work: options: Stratum
Pay Orphans: Do you reward miners even if a block is orphaned? Options: No.
Min Withdrawal: There are no accounts . Payouts are directly on found block .
Merge Mining: Options: No

Regards

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Quote from: pothagoni on February 25, 2015, 10:45:46 AM

Did anyone try http://pool.bitgencorp.com this pool. I have connected my Spondoolies sp20 jackson (1.3 TH/s) to this pool. Its almost 2 days nothing has been awarded.

I tried BTCGuild, Bitcoin affilitate and Slush pool. Not happy with the results.

I greatly appreciate for some suggestions

I strongly recommend kano's pool, he's pretty awesome, and active on the forums.

http://kano.is/

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Did anyone try http://pool.bitgencorp.com this pool. I have connected my Spondoolies sp20 jackson (1.3 TH/s) to this pool. Its almost 2 days nothing has been awarded.

I tried BTCGuild, Bitcoin affilitate and Slush pool. Not happy with the results.

I greatly appreciate for some suggestions

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Quote from: daddyfatsax on February 20, 2015, 12:31:38 PM

I have been seeing a lot of blocks from bwpool lately. It is some Chinese pool, according to my google-fu. Any more info on them?

https://www.bw.com/

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I have been seeing a lot of blocks from bwpool lately. It is some Chinese pool, according to my google-fu. Any more info on them?

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Quote from: mahrens917 on February 18, 2015, 11:38:50 PM

Organofcorti, great work that you do here - thanks for all the reports.

On page 1 where you list the p2pool proxy mining pools the last two are down: p2poolserver.com and thash.pl.

Thanks, I've removed them.

Quote from: mahrens917 on February 18, 2015, 11:38:50 PM

Also, where you provide a source for p2pool nodes there is also nodes.p2pool.co. Could that be added?

Done, also added coincadence.com

Quote from: mahrens917 on February 18, 2015, 11:38:50 PM

Lastly, what exactly is a p2pool proxy server - is that just p2pool merged mining?

In this thread we had a discussion in which we decided that a p2pool proxy server was a node that anyone could use the same way as any other pool, with statistics and so on. It's a way to make p2pool more available for miners with a low threshold for fiddling.

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Organofcorti, great work that you do here - thanks for all the reports.

On page 1 where you list the p2pool proxy mining pools the last two are down: p2poolserver.com and thash.pl. Also, where you provide a source for p2pool nodes there is also nodes.p2pool.co. Could that be added?

Lastly, what exactly is a p2pool proxy server - is that just p2pool merged mining?

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Quote from: azguard on February 18, 2015, 06:42:59 AM

ok

can you add to the list in first post then who have proxy mining

P2pool proxies are at the start. All pools identifying as non-p2pool-proxies are in the proxy section at the end. At the moment, the only non-p2pool proxy is Nicehash.

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ok

can you add to the list in first post then who have proxy mining

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Quote from: azguard on February 18, 2015, 05:40:03 AM

Quote from: Kiro on February 15, 2015, 08:34:09 PM

Adding listing for coinstack.io, this pool has existed for a while but has recently undergone a major overhaul.

Pool: Coinstack
Website: https://www.coinstack.io
Proxy: No
Generation address: 1NqULYZgmz18qTAh1k7rsFNHe7Bz5cC3X6
Coinbase signature: Coinstack.io
Payout method: PPLNS
Fee: 2%
Pay Tx Reward: No
Vardiff: Automatic - 12 SPM
Local Work: stratum
Pay Orphans: No
Min Withdrawal: 0.02
Merge Mining: No

i mean like this to look like this

Yes, they have already been added. They posted in the thread, I didn't have any follow up questions for them, so I put them in the list.

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Quote from: Kiro on February 15, 2015, 08:34:09 PM

Adding listing for coinstack.io, this pool has existed for a while but has recently undergone a major overhaul.

Pool: Coinstack
Website: https://www.coinstack.io
Proxy: No
Generation address: 1NqULYZgmz18qTAh1k7rsFNHe7Bz5cC3X6
Coinbase signature: Coinstack.io
Payout method: PPLNS
Fee: 2%
Pay Tx Reward: No
Vardiff: Automatic - 12 SPM
Local Work: stratum
Pay Orphans: No
Min Withdrawal: 0.02
Merge Mining: No

i mean like this to look like this

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Quote from: azguard on February 17, 2015, 03:32:24 AM

Op like this new post sheme

could you update the list with new mining pools

I enter new pools within one week of a valid request. If there's a pool you use that is not here, get them to post a request in the usual format.

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Quote from: Kiro on February 15, 2015, 08:34:09 PM

Adding listing for coinstack.io, this pool has existed for a while but has recently undergone a major overhaul.

Pool: Coinstack
Website: https://www.coinstack.io
Proxy: No
Generation address: 1NqULYZgmz18qTAh1k7rsFNHe7Bz5cC3X6
Coinbase signature: Coinstack.io
Payout method: PPLNS
Fee: 2%
Pay Tx Reward: No
Vardiff: Automatic - 12 SPM
Local Work: stratum
Pay Orphans: No
Min Withdrawal: 0.02
Merge Mining: No

Done. Please check the entry for errors.

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Op like this new post sheme

could you update the list with new mining pools

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