The other option is offering weekly payments then at least they can prove they will pay out pretty quickly and if they do scam then you've only given them a weeks worth of advertising. However, some deals have paid out for the first couple/few weeks then eventually scammed so it's not a guarantee but I suppose any deal could eventually not pay for whatever reasons.
I have noticed that the deals that have moved from weekly to monthly deals that do not offer escrow almost always tend to scam. It seems like they tend to build up a reputation (as you mentioned above) then once people are comfortable with advertising without escrow they change to monthly payments and end up not paying after receiving a month of free advertising (which often happens to be less then what they have even paid for when they were paying out weekly) 
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The other option is offering weekly payments then at least they can prove they will pay out pretty quickly and if they do scam then you've only given them a weeks worth of advertising. However, some deals have paid out for the first couple/few weeks then eventually scammed so it's not a guarantee but I suppose any deal could eventually not pay for whatever reasons.
why is CoinPiler still on the list? 
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
It's not a payment problem , it is a *scam* . Ppl must learn that an escrow is not more "recommended" but it is needed.
I tend to agree with your statement with the exception of businesses (like prime dice for example) that are very well established within the community
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
It's not a payment problem , it is a *scam* . Ppl must learn that an escrow is not more "recommended" but it is needed.
When the escrow is more trustworthy than the member you are doing business with, you are lowering your risk because the escrow is less likely to scam than the member you are doing business with.
True, coinpiler was removed from the list!
@OP : Try to add 'added' to the change log after coinsweeper.com
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6-Dec-2014: CoinPiler removed and Coin-Sweeper.com.
~~MZ~~
Finally , but a lot of users have promoted his site for 1 month
, we should dox him. hero member
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why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
It's not a payment problem , it is a *scam* . Ppl must learn that an escrow is not more "recommended" but it is needed.
When the escrow is more trustworthy than the member you are doing business with, you are lowering your risk because the escrow is less likely to scam than the member you are doing business with.
True, coinpiler was removed from the list!
@OP : Try to add 'added' to the change log after coinsweeper.com
Code:
6-Dec-2014: CoinPiler removed and Coin-Sweeper.com.
~~MZ~~
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
It's not a payment problem , it is a *scam* . Ppl must learn that an escrow is not more "recommended" but it is needed.
When the escrow is more trustworthy than the member you are doing business with, you are lowering your risk because the escrow is less likely to scam than the member you are doing business with.
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
It's not a payment problem , it is a *scam* . Ppl must learn that an escrow is not more "recommended" but it is needed.
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
OP should at least put a * and warn about the payment problem
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 509
I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Only for sometime... Just wait, he might come out of nowhere to pay the users.
~~MZ~~
why is CoinPiler still on the list?
Coin-Sweeper.com (Thread)
Payment period: Weekly
Minimum posts: 30 Posts per Week and 10 Posts out of 30 MUST BE MADE IN GAMBLING TOPIC
Payments: J: 0.0051BTC/week; M: 0.0101BTC/week; F: 0.0151BTC/week; S: 0.0251BTC/week; H/L: 0.0301BTC/week
Escrow: No
Miscellaneous: Friday 14:00 PM Bitcoin Talk Forum time is the payment date and a start date of the next week. Those who sign up 2 (or less) days before Friday will start participating in the campaign from the next week
Payment period: Weekly
Minimum posts: 30 Posts per Week and 10 Posts out of 30 MUST BE MADE IN GAMBLING TOPIC
Payments: J: 0.0051BTC/week; M: 0.0101BTC/week; F: 0.0151BTC/week; S: 0.0251BTC/week; H/L: 0.0301BTC/week
Escrow: No
Miscellaneous: Friday 14:00 PM Bitcoin Talk Forum time is the payment date and a start date of the next week. Those who sign up 2 (or less) days before Friday will start participating in the campaign from the next week
"10 Posts out of 30 MUST BE MADE IN GAMBLING TOPIC", cloudminr has a rule for topics too. 30% of the posts have to be made in certain sections of the forum and Primedice announced the pay per post will be different depending of the forum section.
CoinPiler is scam, doesn't pay for November, plz remove it.
I'm shocked that someone who refused to use escrow with flimsy excuses turned out to be a scam.
I've asked him several times times to use an escrow but this was his reply :
Hi all the curious & cautions mind of BitcoinTalk Community.
I do highly respect all of your opinion of making an escrow. I do understand that you must want to keep the community safe and secure (at-least SCAM free) I am not outside of this intension.
I know that making an escrow would greatly improve my credibility, professionalism and so forth....
But thing is I cannot depend on others (at-least where my money involved). I cannot give my money to others and tell them not to waste or loss, or keep them safe for me. My money can be well protected to only myself...
Please don't take my decision in different angle.... take it as straight as I tell here... I do know, you can tell me lots of things against this post, you can even present me world's secured vault with world's most trusted guy to provide escrow... But I must not making any escrow...
After this post I would not reply any escrow related question. If you can join this campaign with my terms, please you are welcome... If you feel that you are not safe without escrow, please do not waste your precious time to reply this thread.....
If this post hurt anyone, its not intentional, I do highly respect your perception.....
Thanks
I do highly respect all of your opinion of making an escrow. I do understand that you must want to keep the community safe and secure (at-least SCAM free) I am not outside of this intension.
I know that making an escrow would greatly improve my credibility, professionalism and so forth....
But thing is I cannot depend on others (at-least where my money involved). I cannot give my money to others and tell them not to waste or loss, or keep them safe for me. My money can be well protected to only myself...
Please don't take my decision in different angle.... take it as straight as I tell here... I do know, you can tell me lots of things against this post, you can even present me world's secured vault with world's most trusted guy to provide escrow... But I must not making any escrow...
After this post I would not reply any escrow related question. If you can join this campaign with my terms, please you are welcome... If you feel that you are not safe without escrow, please do not waste your precious time to reply this thread.....
If this post hurt anyone, its not intentional, I do highly respect your perception.....
Thanks
The first time these guys ran their signature campaign, i got in and took part. They nearly gave everyone a scare when the payment was delayed by 2 days. They eventually paid out every participant. I saw the writing on the wall when they started verbally abusing everyone who had posted negative feedback in their thread, at not receiving payments, which was a fault of Coinpiler in the first place! They paid out late!! Coinpiler then proceeded to remove people from the campaign and acted as though they were doing people a favor by paying people what they had promised in the first place! I took off, even though i did not have any campaign active.. i proceeded to use my website link in my signature before i got my current campaign. Felt it was better to steer clear of these guys and its a good thing i did.
Yeah I know , but Fj has conducted a previous sig. campaign where the payments were "up-front" or am I wrong ? (I was enrolled in all the FJ sig. campaign).
Yup. Edited my post above before you replied
Yeah I've seen , they pay directly in the account so I think the unique possibility is pay in "up-front". However it is their choice
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Yeah I know , but Fj has conducted a previous sig. campaign where the payments were "up-front" or am I wrong ? (I was enrolled in all the FJ sig. campaign).
Yup. Edited my post above before you replied
He pays directly in the coin-sweeper account .... also fortuneJack .
Nothing wrong with that as long as you're able to withdraw without limitations. Had no issues in this matter with FJ.
Yeah I know , but Fj has conducted a previous sig. campaign where the payments were "up-front" or am I wrong ? (I was enrolled in all the FJ sig. campaign).
He pays directly in the coin-sweeper account .... also fortuneJack .
Nothing wrong with that as long as you're able to withdraw without limitations. Had no issues in this matter with FJ.
Edit: But is this their first campaign, or have they done one previously? If it's 1st - they defo should escrow or pay in advance (like FJ did with their 1st camp)
Escrow: No
No escrow and lower rates than Fortune Jack
Doesn't seems promising
Haven't they run a campaign previously? If so, there's no real need for an escrow.
Rates are lower than FJ, but FJ is only for seniors and above. And if all spots are taken in FJ camp, then some seniors may go for it.
He pays directly in the coin-sweeper account .... also fortuneJack .
Escrow: No
No escrow and lower rates than Fortune Jack
Doesn't seems promising
Haven't they run a campaign previously? If so, there's no real need for an escrow.
Rates are lower than FJ, but FJ is only for seniors and above. And if all spots are taken in FJ camp, then few seniors may go for it.
Escrow: No
No escrow and lower rates than Fortune Jack
Doesn't seems promising
Coin-Sweeper.com (Thread)
Payment period: Weekly
Minimum posts: 30 Posts per Week and 10 Posts out of 30 MUST BE MADE IN GAMBLING TOPIC
Payments: J: 0.0051BTC/week; M: 0.0101BTC/week; F: 0.0151BTC/week; S: 0.0251BTC/week; H/L: 0.0301BTC/week
Escrow: No
Miscellaneous: Friday 14:00 PM Bitcoin Talk Forum time is the payment date and a start date of the next week. Those who sign up 2 (or less) days before Friday will start participating in the campaign from the next week
Payment period: Weekly
Minimum posts: 30 Posts per Week and 10 Posts out of 30 MUST BE MADE IN GAMBLING TOPIC
Payments: J: 0.0051BTC/week; M: 0.0101BTC/week; F: 0.0151BTC/week; S: 0.0251BTC/week; H/L: 0.0301BTC/week
Escrow: No
Miscellaneous: Friday 14:00 PM Bitcoin Talk Forum time is the payment date and a start date of the next week. Those who sign up 2 (or less) days before Friday will start participating in the campaign from the next week
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