Topic: Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns - page 220. (Read 17852 times)
September 09, 2014, 01:13:34 PM
Please continue all "DiceBitco.in Signature"-related stuff to the new topic: [FULL]DiceBitco.in Siganture Campaign - Continued by Dooglus and BitcoinInformation.
September 09, 2014, 12:59:32 PM
Wait what? What the hell is happening with dicebitcoin. Is it seriously closing?
This is all pretty much news to me also. I seen a person who had the Dicebitco signature crossed out and the sig read "don't use the site" before the crossed advertisement.. Can't recall who it was but from the little I read on the topic yesterday. It's not going so well and people are muttering scam accusations. Maybe there is more info on this in the actual campaign thread.
September 09, 2014, 12:47:37 PM
Wait what? What the hell is happening with dicebitcoin. Is it seriously closing?
There's uncertainty all around. He's probably moving away from the forums for now after getting his reputation damaged due to the recent drama.
September 09, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
A new topic is created for the DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign. All information and stuff will be posted in there. Thank you.
link?
September 09, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
Wait what? What the hell is happening with dicebitcoin. Is it seriously closing?
September 09, 2014, 12:38:07 PM
A new topic is created for the DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign. All information and stuff will be posted in there. Thank you.
link?
September 09, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
A new topic is being created for the DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign. All information and stuff will be posted in there. Thank you.
September 09, 2014, 12:30:05 PM
I just found out I have to be offline for the next day or so. I have a lot of driving to do. So no I didn't run off with the escrow coins or anything...
I'll be back when I can.
I'll be back when I can.
September 09, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
I think 0.1 btc for every enrolled user is perfect .
Why not proportionally payout in case of insufficient funds? Its not like has never been done before. Why would you want to pay a "Full member" the full rate for 200 posts and everyone else less?
Yes your thinking is correct , but it isn't our decision .. there are only a suggestions , the two escrows will decide the correct payout for everyone .
September 09, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
I know about that arrangement macrotheminer, but if Dooglus and I need to pay people we will most likely stop counting after the maximum of 200 posts per month, since we have a very limited amount of funds.
I understand. The plan is that dicebitcoin pays out (the final test wether they want to continue the site, IMO)
I don't know why they asked up to pay out, rather than continuing as normal. I've asked, but they didn't tell me.
My guess is that they are concerned that if they pay out, we keep the 10 BTC and use it to refund people who are owed money for bets that weren't paid out. Basically trust has broken down which is exactly when escrow kicks in.
Perhaps once we have paid out the 10 BTC to advertisers, they will resume the campaign as before.
September 09, 2014, 12:14:10 PM
Your signature isn't correct yet.
Its all good now.
Please check again. The rules say you can't advertise other services.
I would recommend that everyone who is concerned that DB is a scam should stop wearing the DB signature completely, switch to some other campaign, and at the end of the month we'll pay you out for the 9 days you wore it for.
Then you don't need to add a disclaimer.
It seems unreasonable to expect anyone to pay you for advertising a site with "this is a scam" tagged onto the ad. Even if the rules don't explicitly prohibit it, common sense does. Why would anyone pay you to say they suck?
September 09, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
I think 0.1 btc for every enrolled user is perfect .
Why not proportionally payout in case of insufficient funds? Its not like has never been done before. Why would you want to pay a "Full member" the full rate for 200 posts and everyone else less?
September 09, 2014, 12:06:54 PM
I think 0.1 btc for every enrolled user is perfect .
September 09, 2014, 12:00:51 PM
Oh wow only just now found out about all this mess 
So you guys are still deciding what to do? I haven't removed or altered my signature since I started the campaign and my name is still on the DB list.
10 BTC is not gonna be enough to pay for max posts for all members and it's not fair for people to keep posting with the signature if they're not gonna get paid for some of their posts.
I hope you guys find a fair solution for everyone. If we have to keep the sig for the full term, maybe you can calculate a new max post that would make 10 BTC enough to pay everyone.
Anyway, I'll keep checking this thread for updates.
So you guys are still deciding what to do? I haven't removed or altered my signature since I started the campaign and my name is still on the DB list.
10 BTC is not gonna be enough to pay for max posts for all members and it's not fair for people to keep posting with the signature if they're not gonna get paid for some of their posts.
I hope you guys find a fair solution for everyone. If we have to keep the sig for the full term, maybe you can calculate a new max post that would make 10 BTC enough to pay everyone.
Anyway, I'll keep checking this thread for updates.
September 09, 2014, 11:55:08 AM
Wrong, the coins were placed in escrow in case dicebitcoin did not/could not pay out. They have stated already they will not be paying out themselves, but instead escrow funds will be used. (a breach in contract)
It's their funds regardless; would you prefer if they paid us at the end of the month, and then got the funds back from escrow? Would it really make any practical difference? I think they just want out at this point; not that they're trying to scam us - so I think you're being rash here (and probably just want to join another campaign as soon as possible, in order to maximize your reward).
EDIT: which I can't blame you, by the way; this last campaign from Dice.ninja is looking good.
The thing is: they have left, they will most likely not pay. 10btc isnt enough to cover everyone at the end of the month.
P.S. Im not going to join dice.ninja's as they dont pay per post, only 25 posts every 2 weeks
If 10 btc is not enough , what the 2 escrow will do ? Pay less ?
September 09, 2014, 11:46:40 AM
Wrong, the coins were placed in escrow in case dicebitcoin did not/could not pay out. They have stated already they will not be paying out themselves, but instead escrow funds will be used. (a breach in contract)
It's their funds regardless; would you prefer if they paid us at the end of the month, and then got the funds back from escrow? Would it really make any practical difference? I think they just want out at this point; not that they're trying to scam us - so I think you're being rash here (and probably just want to join another campaign as soon as possible, in order to maximize your reward).
EDIT: which I can't blame you, by the way; this last campaign from Dice.ninja is looking good.
The thing is: they have left, they will most likely not pay. 10btc isnt enough to cover everyone at the end of the month.
P.S. Im not going to join dice.ninja's as they dont pay per post, only 25 posts every 2 weeks
September 09, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
This is just my personal opinion: I think they are done with this board. The way the users reacted on the faulty code and mateo was very destructive. So many jumped to conclusions and made fun of dicebitco.in in the dirt. Ive seen a different and ugly face of plenty users yesterday and its contemptible. I have no idea what happend, neither do you. Think about what you would have done in their place. A scammer would be gone the second the shit starts to hit the fan IMHO. Now imagine your dream in the dirt, shat upon because you made a mistake. Would you go back and sit through another 3 weeks with this community?
Sorry this is a bit off topic, but there's a reason for the reaction they got from the forum users. I can think of few things I could have done differently in their position, and it's not hindsight, good suggestions were posted in their own thread by many forum members in real time and they chose to ignore it and do it their way. Scammers or not, they have only themselves to blame for the shitstorm, and kicking the sig campaign to escrow holders is just another example of the unwillingness to face the reality and handle the situation. What exactly is dicebitco.in so busy with that they can't even conclude a signature campaign in a respectful manner.
Sure the situation could have been handled differently, but that does not make a "shitstorm" acceptable. I never understood why people turn into degenerates online, I suspect low self esteem... anyway derailing the thread here.
To stay on topic: dicebitcoin stated in their "final" post that doog and bitcoininformation should payout at the end of the campaign, which implies that DB will not do the payout themselfes, but the month has just started and things might look different at the end of the month. IMHO this is no reason to breach the contract. I also think that doog and bitcoininformation are acting rather nicely, since DB would have kicked several people out allready (sig was changed).
September 09, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
This is just my personal opinion: I think they are done with this board. The way the users reacted on the faulty code and mateo was very destructive. So many jumped to conclusions and made fun of dicebitco.in in the dirt. Ive seen a different and ugly face of plenty users yesterday and its contemptible. I have no idea what happend, neither do you. Think about what you would have done in their place. A scammer would be gone the second the shit starts to hit the fan IMHO. Now imagine your dream in the dirt, shat upon because you made a mistake. Would you go back and sit through another 3 weeks with this community?
Sorry this is a bit off topic, but there's a reason for the reaction they got from the forum users. I can think of few things I could have done differently in their position, and it's not hindsight, good suggestions were posted in their own thread by many forum members in real time and they chose to ignore it and do it their way. Scammers or not, they have only themselves to blame for the shitstorm, and kicking the sig campaign to escrow holders is just another example of the unwillingness to face the reality and handle the situation. What exactly is dicebitco.in so busy with that they can't even conclude a signature campaign in a respectful manner.
September 09, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
Wrong, the coins were placed in escrow in case dicebitcoin did not/could not pay out. They have stated already they will not be paying out themselves, but instead escrow funds will be used. (a breach in contract)
It's their funds regardless; would you prefer if they paid us at the end of the month, and then got the funds back from escrow? Would it really make any practical difference? I think they just want out at this point; not that they're trying to scam us - so I think you're being rash here (and probably just want to join another campaign as soon as possible, in order to maximize your reward).
EDIT: which I can't blame you, by the way; this last campaign from Dice.ninja is looking good.
September 09, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
I'm not against being paid earlier, given the circumstances have changed somewhat; but independently of what else happened, we did agree to advertise DicebBitco.in for a month, so I'm willing to do so, if they decide to go on with it. Also I wouldn't exactly say DB broke the rules by having Dooglus and Bitcoininformation handle payments - the coins were in escrow to handle any unforeseen events, and this sort of classifies, but it shouldn't give them the power to completely rewrite the rules of the campaign if they so choose.
DB broke the rules. He abandoned the campaign and left it to escrowers.
If he's left, who's gonna verify the posts? That's not really the escrowers role, is it?
The 10BTC is not sufficient if everyone hit the max post (18BTC needed).
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