real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues

sbrzol

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Last year bitcoinlivebets stealing all my winnings (30 BTC) but almost nobody believed for my words.

I warned everybody more times not to play on there site.

if you click on bitcoinlivebets at bitcointalk.org you can see:

if you click on trust there is my topic too behind the reference link:

I was sure that they will disappear sooner or later. ( i said 1-3 month on March 09, 2014, 10:45:05 PM )

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5612396
” bitcoinlivebets.com will disappear within 1-3 month after some big players with big balances try to withdrawal all their funds and only some of them will get it before the site closing.”

i opened at least 6 topics :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinlivebetscom-stealing-all-my-winnings-30-btc-300044 bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/arbsmiddles-between-bitcoinlivebets-and-other-sites-312080 arbs/middles between bitcoinlivebets and other sites
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/real-story-how-bitcoincasinopro-handling-issues-309060 real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/2593238-bicoinlivetbets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600-a.html
http://www.bookmakersforum.com/bookmakers/bitcoinlivebets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600/264

i wrote (private) messages about this issue to all bitcoin sports books (at bitcointalkorg), but they do nothing and to top it all bitcoincasinopro contribute to bitcoinlivebets
stealing.
http://bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitcoinlivebets-com/29-60-btc-complaint-against-bitcoinlivebets-com-unsubstantiated/

It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet (above 10 times more stake than the max. 3 BTC) to my account to
http://www25.zippyshare.com/d/26342332/73256/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsx
(the old links does not work)

Redcoin

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Neg trust, was left by competing casinos

@ AlexKill, nice sig Grin

AlexKill

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Aksplace does not know anything about bitcoin but he continues to write his lies and nonsense everywhere.

It is clearly irresponsible that they sided with the advertiser, when the player has provided PROOF that he has been scammed.

bit777

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Quote from: aksplace on November 18, 2013, 04:08:37 PM

Quote from: Oldminer on November 18, 2013, 03:51:15 PM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 08:10:00 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:43:50 AM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

your the one pimping this particular casino software want me to find the post? Roll Eyes

Yeah, find it please.

I think he's still waiting for the post Alan. Or has the cat got your tongue mate?

it would be my honor

located actually how ironically in bitwin's review page http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/

So where in particular do you see us vouching for them? Did you even read what I have written in the comment?

aksplace

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Quote from: Oldminer on November 18, 2013, 03:51:15 PM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 08:10:00 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:43:50 AM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

your the one pimping this particular casino software want me to find the post? Roll Eyes

Yeah, find it please.

I think he's still waiting for the post Alan. Or has the cat got your tongue mate?

it would be my honor

located actually how ironically in bitwin's review page http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/

Oldminer

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Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 08:10:00 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:43:50 AM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

your the one pimping this particular casino software want me to find the post? Roll Eyes

Yeah, find it please.

I think he's still waiting for the post Alan. Or has the cat got your tongue mate?

bit777

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Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:43:50 AM

Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

your the one pimping this particular casino software want me to find the post? Roll Eyes

Yeah, find it please.

aksplace

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Quote from: bit777 on November 08, 2013, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

your the one pimping this particular casino software want me to find the post? Roll Eyes

bit777

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Quote from: aksplace on November 08, 2013, 06:23:38 AM

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

You own a Review and rating site, so its not that uncommon. Given your extremely incompetent review of our Blackjack game, concluding that it is suspicious/rigged after 20 hands. At least dooglus has actual proof before making public statements.

aksplace

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Quote from: dooglus on November 08, 2013, 05:40:08 AM

Quote from: Oldminer on October 23, 2013, 03:54:55 PM

some videos they had uploaded showing consecutive dice rolls on one of our games (this problem occurred over the space of 1 hour before it was identified, which created a problem with our software

I think you misunderstand.

The videos demonstrated that when your casino is low on funds your software deliberately cheats the player to recoup its losses.

It doesn't matter why the casino is low on funds - whether it's the result of a hack or a player getting lucky - in either case the software will cheat the player to get the money back. You have admitted this before so why lie about it now and call it a "problem"?

I defy anyone to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFV_GIc_L2k
and honestly claim that they are watching anything other than obvious and deliberate cheating on the casino's part.

I originally thought that but then I thought surely one cannot be that stupid and actually "own" an online casino. Maybe I was wrong Grin

superresistant

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Why does theses images contain a virus signature ?

dooglus

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Quote from: Oldminer on October 23, 2013, 03:54:55 PM

some videos they had uploaded showing consecutive dice rolls on one of our games (this problem occurred over the space of 1 hour before it was identified, which created a problem with our software

I think you misunderstand.

The videos demonstrated that when your casino is low on funds your software deliberately cheats the player to recoup its losses.

It doesn't matter why the casino is low on funds - whether it's the result of a hack or a player getting lucky - in either case the software will cheat the player to get the money back. You have admitted this before so why lie about it now and call it a "problem"?

I defy anyone to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFV_GIc_L2k
and honestly claim that they are watching anything other than obvious and deliberate cheating on the casino's part.

00null

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Quote from: b!z on October 24, 2013, 02:06:55 AM

At Bitcoin Reviewer, we believe it is essential for players to get correct information regarding the sites they play on. Imagine if Wikipedia took bribes to provide users with false information.

In our opinion, any site that does this is acting very unethically. This is completely unacceptable.

FYI, you have a huge PrimeDice banner in your sig Roll Eyes

b!z

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At Bitcoin Reviewer, we believe it is essential for players to get correct information regarding the sites they play on. Imagine if Wikipedia took bribes to provide users with false information.

In our opinion, any site that does this is acting very unethically. This is completely unacceptable.

monbux

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I think the owner of this gambling site, really handled it like an ass.
I would suggest in the future, give it some F-ing patience, this just proves how unprofessional he is.

Oldminer

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Ok, heres our story (from Bitwincasino)

This sleeze bag PM's me a few days ago offering to review Bitwincasino.com for free.

I forwarded his PM to the owner of the casino (user:Redcoin)

Redcoin contacted him to discuss putting up a review on his site. He then advised he will require 12 BTC to give him a positive review.

After Redcoin refused his extortion demand, Bitcoincasinpro proceeded to reply to someone on this forum regards some videos they had uploaded showing consecutive dice rolls on one of our games (this problem occurred over the space of 1 hour before it was identified, which created a problem with our software. Someone had hacked the dice game and withdrew 150K points to their account, but they were unable to withdraw thanks to security checks in the system). Bitcoincasinpro publicly offered to donate some BTC to the uploader of the videos (implied threat). Redcoin still refused to give in to his demands.

Bitoincasinopro then waited, and when their demand wasnt met he then posted a negative review on his site.

This guy and his site reviews are a joke. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY BTC. He's a conman & you can rest assured his positive reviews were paid for, and as result are not to be trusted.

- Bitwincasino.com

MXRider

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OP: Can you upload those pictures to some other image hosting site like imgur.com. My antivirus is not happy with the current site and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

MXRider

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Quote from: fuggedit on October 14, 2013, 06:19:21 AM

This is strange, why is it such a big deal if you bet on a betting site? Care to explain this OP

OP requested a ~20BTC withdrawal and got only 2BTC. He checked his betting account and noticed that there was a bet added - a losing bet with a stake of 30BTC. There was a 3BTC bet limit for the tennis match so OP is wondering how is it even possible to bet 30BTC.

Bitcoinlivebets has not given a proper answer how can they accept 30BTC bets when even Pinnacle Sports couldn't take that much action for that specific tennis match.

So there are two options:
A) OP did not place the bet and bitcoinlivebets stole 30BTC from him.
B) OP was able to bet 30BTC when the limit was only 3BTC. Bitcoinlivebets accepted the bet (wtf, where is their risk management) when EVERY OTHER betting site would void the bet and return the stake.

A) --> Don't use bitcoinlivebets
B) --> Don't use bitcoinlivebets because they don't have proper risk -/bankroll management. If you are able to make 30BTC bets, what happens to the site when you get lucky and win 200BTC in one day.

darkmule

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This character seems to be more trouble to deal with than he's worth. Seemingly incapable of a simple, concise statement of his gripe, he generates an endless stream of rambling, incoherent diatribes querulously complaining about everything under the sun. I don't blame BCP for not wanting to waste any more time with this gibberish.

fuggedit

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Do as I say to do--But don't. (Mind Blown)

This is strange, why is it such a big deal if you bet on a betting site? Care to explain this OP

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