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June 02, 2018, 12:34:29 PM
#96
we live in a country with the rules of paying taxes as already stipulated. do not make it a burden, but with our taxes will prosper together, because there is a guarantee of education, health, etc

yes,paying taxes should not be a burden because by paying taxes we can contribute in building the country. from taxes the government can build hospital, build public school and many more. to improve our country is not just the government task but it also became our task as a citizen.
newbie
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June 02, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
#95
The obligation to pay taxes for citizens is for the country itself. A country needs a lot of income in order to stabilize everything, one of the country's greatest income is through taxes. Because taxes can be functioned for various things, such as regional development, road construction, for the health and welfare of society and many others.
newbie
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June 02, 2018, 11:09:57 AM
#94
No problem if we pay taxes because tax is considered as a lifeblood in one country,but in good terms the governments provide projects like infrastructures or medical assistance.
Actually in my country the money we pay for taxes will be corrupted and not being properly use.I agreed to pay taxes into correct ways putting the money we paid.
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June 02, 2018, 10:01:06 AM
#93
If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.
I beg to differ though. The government is greedy and we all know that. Even after your death, the tax will haunt you (inheritance tax, estate tax and what not). Tax is more like a forced contribution to the government and people even if they don't use their services are forced to pay the tax (for example someone opts in to study in private school instead of public school or does not take social benefits but will still have to pay taxes). I am not saying tax is a bad thing, but the government should redefine how the taxes are collected.
sr. member
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June 02, 2018, 09:57:34 AM
#92
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Rather than being openly against taxes and avoid paying them, why not concentrate the effort on electing a parliament and indirectly a government that will not play around with our money?
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Many people are not asking for the complete removal of a tax system, but rather disagree
with the high level of taxation in their respective country. I´d have no problem with paying
a fixed 10 % tax on all my income, but I do have a problem with paying 40 % or more
(especially, because the actual tax burden is even higher due to taxation via inflation
and consumption taxes).

The problem with focusing on electing a more responsible government is an inherent problem
of democracies. The easiest way to get people to vote for you is to promise to increase government
spending and government handouts. This leads to a bidding war between politicians and
ruins the state finances in the long-term every single time.

Besides, most countries have a huge electorate that is living directly off government transfers and
is therefore heavily incentivized to vote for irresponsible candidates that will not
consolidate the finances of the state.
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June 02, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
#91
Taxation is theft. "But who will build the roads" argument is really old and dumb, people are not some stupid monkeys who can't figure out things if no one guides them, there's nothing that can not be done privately and through voluntary cooperation (which is the same as privately). Roads, military, science and so on - all of it can and is done privately around the world. Government is exactly why Bitcoin was invented - you can't trust people with power and believe that they will do as they've promised, and even well-meaning leaders do stupid mistakes that cost billions. Just like Bitcoin have decentralized economy, some day people will decentralize power to the point when every individual will be independent from others.

If everyone went ahead to do things personally then there won't be any scope of a systemized channel and possibilities of having endless problems won't be able to be ruled out , at the end of the day people are different everyone's different thus it's not easy for someone to say something like this . This seems like an argument of a 2 year old , since the system is what keeps everyone together and in check .
Democrats are not mad that they have invented this since thousand of years also you should know that if given chance to people will run away from doing any good for other rather than they are more or less set on themselves and it won't be able to provide for a linear future for others .
It's not as easy as it seems even though it might be fancy but it's no child play to run a government that big, we cannot be like ramapithecus since we have literally more cranial capacity that old animal is long gone and humans have evolved and more or less there are bad people around here too ... We cannot just let them do as they please a government body is a must to take care of all the decisions because leaving decisions of that big of a country on everyone without any further details will turn out to be a big mess because everyone will have thier own point of view and the majority point of view will be more or less targeted by the ones in the minority.
Tell me will you make road all by yourself when it's needed using your money ? Altogether your money ?
It's not possible dude . It is just a recipe of chaos.
We should pay taxes because it is a duty of a citizen like us to the country as well as the people around us to pay for it because I hope the government will use that tax to do it. the public good for society as well as bitcoin.
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June 02, 2018, 08:20:28 AM
#90
Yeah, I partly agree:

paying taxes should build up nice social things like mentioned before but if a government uses them for silly, selfish goals then it is not easy to smile when they are taking away more than half of your salary...
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June 02, 2018, 07:52:43 AM
#89
If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

There are a lot of reasons why we pay taxes and for me paying taxes is important. The staright road we walked and drive on, the public schools that the youngster attended to, the public hospitals people without enough money goes to are the results of the taxes we paid. The reason we did it is to better our life in the community we live in and help those who cannot afford the expensive expenses. People should to it because it serve as the budget of our government to improve the place we called home. So don't frown and be mad if you are paying taxes because a small amount of help from you could be the big blessings for others.
legendary
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June 02, 2018, 07:14:02 AM
#88
In short, we pay taxes in order to help government to lead social services, army, police, to give salary to state employees etc.
It's main and the most important income for any state.
It's completely understandable for me to pay taxes if I will have free health service, social help, retirement etc.
Do you think that many people can afford all of this alone?
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June 02, 2018, 07:02:06 AM
#87
It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

There are at least two reasons why taxes are dubious, mildly speaking. First of all, government (and any government, for that matter) is very ineffective in using people's money. So it is a big question how much or rather how little of the taxes collected is actually used for all these things and to what effect. Secondly, government is printing money anyway, and this is called an inflation tax which we are all paying nolens volens. Further, if instead of paying taxes, government would make people build the roads, parks, hospitals, etc, you would be surprised how little the society would have to shell out on all this in terms of both money and effort.
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June 02, 2018, 06:54:57 AM
#86
If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

Taxes are primarily used for the general public-infrastructures, health, education etc. So basically, taxes are for the betterment of the constituents of any government.
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June 02, 2018, 06:34:19 AM
#85
We are obliged to pay taxes to fund government projects. If this fund are properly consumed for public projects alone then quality public service will be provided to the citizens. 

This is a good reason why we need to pay taxes, but since government are so corrupt in many countries people are now afraid to pay taxes. I'm not against on this kind of system, I'm willing to pay for it no matter what but I just hope that the tax collection will spend in the right projects. People should pay taxes right its for our own sake and I still believe in the goverment.
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June 02, 2018, 06:26:32 AM
#84
Paying taxes here in our country is an obligation that's why whether we like it or not, we have to pay for it.We have to face a failure-to-file penalty if we fail to pay our taxes.Yes you are right that tax money are very useful in making schools,road concreting,widening,salaries for government employees and others for the benefits of the many.
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June 02, 2018, 06:24:26 AM
#83
If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

Because, you are not single in the world and if there is not a govern, you can not live single. The states can not put the money in their pockets, they make your life easier with this money.
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June 02, 2018, 06:23:38 AM
#82
I'm not against taxation as long as the funds are used properly, it is very important to help build one nation. What I hate most is the misused of funds and corruption, the main problem are those incompetent people in the government that rapes the system.
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June 02, 2018, 06:08:00 AM
#81
Tax do really help from little things to big things we have on our community. The products we buy  from the store do have taxes, from our wages on work and many more. Our taxes funds services also for us and for the country, we pay tax for paying the government employees whom secures the safety of the people which is police and firefighters whenever emergency event happens.
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Blackjack.fun
June 02, 2018, 05:56:20 AM
#80
Taxation is theft. "But who will build the roads" argument is really old and dumb, people are not some stupid monkeys who can't figure out things if no one guides them, there's nothing that can not be done privately and through voluntary cooperation (which is the same as privately).

Yeah, they can be done. But they aren't Cheesy
Why? Because they fail.
People are always happy to see they won't be paying taxes for roads, hospitals etc, but when times comes to pay for private healthcare private roads, private water company they tend to do the same. Not pay.
It's Greece all over again


Just like Bitcoin have decentralized economy, some day people will decentralize power to the point when every individual will be independent from others.

Nice, in theory.
Let's talk about roads then, who will decide if the next highway is going to build 100 or 200 meters from the last house in the city? The only option is voting, so....independence my ****
Private army? How much is this going to cost us? How do we decide? Oh, the vote of the majority  Grin Grin

What happens if you are in a third world country and there is massive corruption? You pay taxes and there are no roads, schools, or any essential public utilities. What you do see is the politicians and their cronies getting richer. Would you still argue that everybody should continue paying taxes?

I'm wondering who keeps electing those corrupt politicians.......

Although the current government is doing its best to curb out corruption like increasing the salary of the policeman, there are a lot being tempted to accept bribe money. That's why you can't really blame someone doesn't want to pay their taxes because we know that it will just go to the pockets of corrupt government officials.

So basically it's not the government alone, it's also about the policemen, probably doctors, judges, administration and let's not forget that they can demand bribe but the ones paying and encouraging this practice are also guilty of this.
Since I live in Eastern Europe and my country is also a bit or more corrupted, I know this pretty well, people complaining about doctors demanding money, but still paying up the bribe and encouraging this practice...


This is the main reason why countries are trying to scare their citizens and make them pay upfront. You don't know where your taxes go and they can always think of some reason why this or that hasn't been done. A great improvement in this system is local taxation. In this system your money go directly to your local city council and are spent on roads, parks, pavements, schools, police, and so on, and you can demand them to give you the budget and value of the projects completed in the previous tax year. It makes it much harder for the money to vanish. Unfortunately not many countries allow for that. Most prefer all taxes to go to the capital and then be divided between local governments, so that they all get equal share (equality is another socialist idea that never seems to work as intended).

You can't really do that...
There is a small town close by, around 20 km from my home.
I can almost bet than 80% of the population is older than 70 and probably less than 5% is employed.
With no help from the central government and distribution of funds, how would they be able to afford police, doctors, firefighters?
Or do you think you have it in you to knock at their doors and say
"Yeah, I know you lived here for almost a century, you paid taxes all your life, but now you have to move cause I don't want my money paying for your bus or ambulance?"
Be honest, what would you do with those settlements?

Don't get me wrong I hate socialism from all my heart, second only to communism in which unfortunately I've lived but there is a huge difference between socialism and providing equal services for all the population.
After all, Denmark is not socialist (although many want to believe that)
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And now on the subject, I think a lot of people are having the wrong idea about it.
Rather than being openly against taxes and avoid paying them, why not concentrate the effort on electing a parliament and indirectly a government that will not play around with our money?

My colleagues at work are one hell of an example, every coffee break they criticize the government, the mayor, the local council, but less than 1/4 have voted in the elections...
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June 02, 2018, 05:45:24 AM
#79
Taxes are very important to the development of our country, But not only for development it has many purposes just like the salary of the government workers but these days government officials corrupting the funds of the country and they can't provide any changes or if there's any changes it's just a small not a big positive changes Angry
We need a good leader to control the corruption that's why we are thankful here in the Philippines because our new president are very good and corrupt he is doing anything to make improvement for the philippines.
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June 02, 2018, 05:31:09 AM
#78
That is a good list but you forgot about the defense system and salary for military personnel. Without it your country will be taken over by a stronger neighbour if you have any useful resources. Taxes are sadly needed, but millionaires should be paying more, either in fiat or crypto (when they are accepted)
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June 02, 2018, 05:26:22 AM
#77
First of all, if the government implement it, we should do what they want us to do, or else see you in prison. Second, the government do that not onky to get money from people but also use it for building roads, infrustracture, hospitalization, education and even more.
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