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James Cameron wants you to eat nothing but plants to stop global warming

Film director James Cameron and his wife, Suzy Amis Cameron, an actor and model, are planning a global campaign to persuade people to move towards a plant-only diet (where no animals or animal products are consumed) in order to sharply reduce global carbon emissions and improve their health…

“The project will include many different modes of communication that will reach as many different demographics as we possibly can from children to 90-year-olds. We want to bring awareness around the connection between livestock production and our environment to leave the planet a better place for our future generations to grow up in.”…

As they delved further into the subject, they recognised that the meat and dairy industry is also the elephant in the room when it comes to climate change.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/04/james-cameron-and-wife-to-launch-campaign-advocating-sustainable-plant-only-based-diet/

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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

Accused?  They were caught fudging the data!
I'm a victim of circumstance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sxAk3B_zS5k#t=102
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

Accused?  They were caught fudging the data!
legendary
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

I thought the deniers were the liars, according to all the posts I contributed here.. Now I am confused Cheesy


We do what then?  Take turns playing true believer?
legendary
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

I thought the deniers were the liars, according to all the posts I contributed here.. Now I am confused Cheesy

legendary
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

I don't think we think they are liars. They are just gullible dupes who have been tricked into helping to further the agendas of powerful people.
Same here.  And I think some aspects of the "AGW" model do bear some discussion and are not complete lies. 

For example...

1.  the possible effects of increased ocean acidity.
2.  Mitigation of possible ice age
3.  effects of climate change and AGW on the island of Tahiti

The third issue raised above, just to be certain that there is no lying from the hysterical alarmists, would require extensive in person study.  I think particular attention should be paid to the claims of possible beach erosion.

I'm particularly interested in whether a correlation exists in fragile, AGW sensitive regions such as the Tahiti beachs with beer consumption rates.  We should not expect three sigma certainty in such a correlative study, however, with sufficient on site assets trends may well arise from the data.
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.

I don't think we think they are liars. They are just gullible dupes who have been tricked into helping to further the agendas of powerful people.
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
Since they are being accused of being liars any further discussion is kind of pointless.
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Slate Blames Global Warming For ISIS Taking Over Iraq…

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Could there be a connection between climate change and the emerging conflict in Iraq?

The short answer is a qualified yes, according to Frank Femia of the Center for Climate and Security, a Washington-based policy institute advised by senior retired military and national security leaders. He explained in a phone interview:

“It’s far too early, considering this is happening in real time, to figure out what is motivating ISIS and its members. Certainly, the natural resource stresses in the region make things worse. Terrorist organizations can try to control those resources and gain significant influence and power. You can’t say climate change is causing ISIS to do what it’s doing, but it [climate change] certainly has a role to play in the region.”

Increasing temperatures may also be playing a role in the recent uptick in violence. A study published last year in the journal Science showed a strong connection between high temperatures and political instability, like civil wars, riots, and ethnic violence, though the cause is not well known. A previous study has linked dehydration with decreased cognitive performance and increased levels of anxiety.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/06/isis_water_scarcity_is_climate_change_destabilizing_iraq.single.html



What a load of garbage. By their logic we can literally blame everything on global warming. Next time I get a speeding ticket I will tell them that it was because of resource pressures brought on by global warming.  Roll Eyes
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.

Yep. I have to play warmist in chief to counter argue my own posts...  Wink

legendary
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Everyone notice how all the warmists have completely abandoned this thread? Too much reality for them I guess.
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Reddit is just a bunch of trolls. But what I think is that climate change does happen. There was an Ice Age not that long ago in a geological sense and we're still kinda coming out of it. BUT I think it is highly arrogant to say that human activity is the ONLY factor involved with climate change. If you're not a rabid Creationist who takes the Bible literally (and I know not all Christians are a Ken Ham who can get owned by a science educator), you know that Earth was here long before there were humans and will still be here long after those of us who are pioneering spirits have colonized other planets and the rest die in a worldwide cataclysm a la Hollywood style. Nature is good at bouncing back from disaster even if it might not ever look the same as it did before. Yes, replace your light bulbs with a more efficient version and remember to turn your lights and appliances off when you leave the room, but do it because they'll save you on your energy bill.

I believe in climate change. I believe we, humans have some impact on Nature. The same is true for all living creatures in the sea and in the forest. Now to measure that impact we have on the climate should scientists be free to do what they were born to do or should political influences "impact" their research by keeping them quiet if they are not following the official socialist green movement Orthodoxy?

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NOAA Quietly Reinstates July 1936 As Hottest Month on Record

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present.

July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared “too hot to handle” by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA.

According to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the “average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.”

“The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F,” NOAA said in 2012.

This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data on Sunday he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.

“Two years ago during the scorching summer of 2012, July 1936 lost its place on the leaderboard and July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the United States,” Watts wrote. “Now, as if by magic, and according to NOAA’s own data, July 1936 is now the hottest month on record again.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/noaa-quietly-reinstates-july-1936-as-the-hottest-month-on-record/

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NOAA Quietly Reinstates July 1936 As Hottest Month on Record

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, criticized for manipulating temperature records to create a warming trend, has now been caught warming the past and cooling the present.

July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the U.S. during a summer that was declared “too hot to handle” by NASA scientists. That summer more than half the country was experiencing drought and wildfires had scorched more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA.

According to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the “average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895.”

“The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936, when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F,” NOAA said in 2012.

This statement by NOAA was still available on their website when checked by The Daily Caller News Foundation. But when meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data on Sunday he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.

“Two years ago during the scorching summer of 2012, July 1936 lost its place on the leaderboard and July 2012 became the hottest month on record in the United States,” Watts wrote. “Now, as if by magic, and according to NOAA’s own data, July 1936 is now the hottest month on record again.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/noaa-quietly-reinstates-july-1936-as-the-hottest-month-on-record/

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Slate Blames Global Warming For ISIS Taking Over Iraq…

[...]
Could there be a connection between climate change and the emerging conflict in Iraq?

The short answer is a qualified yes, according to Frank Femia of the Center for Climate and Security, a Washington-based policy institute advised by senior retired military and national security leaders. He explained in a phone interview:

“It’s far too early, considering this is happening in real time, to figure out what is motivating ISIS and its members. Certainly, the natural resource stresses in the region make things worse. Terrorist organizations can try to control those resources and gain significant influence and power. You can’t say climate change is causing ISIS to do what it’s doing, but it [climate change] certainly has a role to play in the region.”

Increasing temperatures may also be playing a role in the recent uptick in violence. A study published last year in the journal Science showed a strong connection between high temperatures and political instability, like civil wars, riots, and ethnic violence, though the cause is not well known. A previous study has linked dehydration with decreased cognitive performance and increased levels of anxiety.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/06/isis_water_scarcity_is_climate_change_destabilizing_iraq.single.html

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Reddit is just a bunch of trolls. But what I think is that climate change does happen. There was an Ice Age not that long ago in a geological sense and we're still kinda coming out of it. BUT I think it is highly arrogant to say that human activity is the ONLY factor involved with climate change. If you're not a rabid Creationist who takes the Bible literally (and I know not all Christians are a Ken Ham who can get owned by a science educator), you know that Earth was here long before there were humans and will still be here long after those of us who are pioneering spirits have colonized other planets and the rest die in a worldwide cataclysm a la Hollywood style. Nature is good at bouncing back from disaster even if it might not ever look the same as it did before. Yes, replace your light bulbs with a more efficient version and remember to turn your lights and appliances off when you leave the room, but do it because they'll save you on your energy bill.
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...the burden of proof is on people who make the positive claim. its on people who say that anthropogenic climate change does exist.

Well, you are correct as far as the modern assertions of the planet is going to be a fiery hell 5-8C hotter in just a few years or 20 years or whatever due to man's....

But in the more general sense, of course man has changed climate in regional areas at various times.   Pollution, soot, etc.  Nobody has ever disputed this.  This is why I called the professor out as an intellectually dishonest coward, because he won't frame a question honestly which is answerable with logic and science.
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Obama’s Climate Change Plan Will Prevent 3,300 Heart Attacks…


President Barack Obama’s Climate Action Plan will stop 3,300 heart attacks and 150,000 asthma attacks, according to a report released by the White House Wednesday.

The plan, which includes new efficiency standards and renewable energy projects, will reportedly prevent 6,600 deaths — when “fully implemented.”

“Since the Climate Action Plan’s release, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed carbon pollution standards for new and existing power plants that put our nation on track to cut carbon pollution from the power sector by 30 percent and reduce pollutants that contribute to the soot and smog that make people sick by over 25 percent in 2030,” the report explains.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/25/white-house-obamas-climate-plan-will-prevent-3300-heart-attacks/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


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Not 1649, not 2999... But 3300... Hopefully NOT with the help from the VA's hospital speedy network Wink

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The initial science was done also by intellectuals, not manual laborers. Google founders, Wright brothers Tesla etc all were smart intellectuals, who worked hard, worked intelligently and achieved something that we all enjoy today.


Was this tool created by manual laborers or intellectuals? Is the tool accurate, or a gadget?

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The initial science was done also by intellectuals, not manual laborers. Google founders, Wright brothers Tesla etc all were smart intellectuals, who worked hard, worked intelligently and achieved something that we all enjoy today.
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