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According to the RSS satellite data, whose value for April 2014 is just in, the global warming trend in the 17 years 9 months since August 1996 is zero. The 212 months without global warming represents more than half the 423-month satellite data record, which began in January 1979. No one now in high school has lived through global warming.
Here's the trend from 4 different sources:

But yes, the air temperature has not risen much in the last years.
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.....One of the main promises of Abbott’s coalition was to repeal the country’s carbon tax and costly environmental agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/19/aussies-to-slash-90-of-global-warming-funding-from-budget/

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What I would call "A good start!" Smiley


If I was trying to change the climate in Australia, I'd be advocating nuclear power running giant desalinization plants and carving rivers inland from the sea.  Turning that huge desert into a paradise.

Terraforming right here.

Check out the weather around the bunny fence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/earth/14fenc.html

The photo with the cloud is stunning.


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.....One of the main promises of Abbott’s coalition was to repeal the country’s carbon tax and costly environmental agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/19/aussies-to-slash-90-of-global-warming-funding-from-budget/

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What I would call "A good start!" Smiley


If I was trying to change the climate in Australia, I'd be advocating nuclear power running giant desalinization plants and carving rivers inland from the sea.  Turning that huge desert into a paradise.

Terraforming right here.

Check out the weather around the bunny fence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/earth/14fenc.html
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Wow! 17 years and 9 months? That's almost as good as some people believing in AGW for the past 20 years... Well, almost. ;
I have to admit to a bit of exaggeration when I have been using the phrase "no warming for the last 20 years".  Knowing it was 17+, close enough.

Then again, since this is measurements of temperature and not latent heat or energy content, it may be meaningless. 
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“The coalition government acknowledges the role of renewable energy in Australia’s energy mix,” said Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane. “There is over $1 billion in funding for existing renewable projects to be completed over the coming years.”

“Given the tight fiscal environment as a result of [liberal] Labor’s legacy of debt and deficit, the government considers there is a very significant investment in renewable energy,” MacFarlane added.

Abbott’s Liberal-National coalition won a landslide victory in Australia’s election last fall. One of the main promises of Abbott’s coalition was to repeal the country’s carbon tax and costly environmental agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/19/aussies-to-slash-90-of-global-warming-funding-from-budget/

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According to the RSS satellite data, whose value for April 2014 is just in, the global warming trend in the 17 years 9 months since August 1996 is zero. The 212 months without global warming represents more than half the 423-month satellite data record, which began in January 1979. No one now in high school has lived through global warming.

Key facts about global temperature:
** The RSS satellite dataset shows no global warming at all for 213 months from August 1996 to April 2014. That is more than half the entire 423-month satellite record.
** The fastest centennial warming rate was in Central England from 1663-1762, at 0.9 Cº per century – before the industrial revolution began. It cannot have been our fault.
** The global warming trend since 1900 is equivalent to 0.8 Cº per century. This is well within natural variability and may not have much to do with us.
** The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England. It was equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century.
** Since 1950, when a human influence on global temperature first became theoretically possible, the global warming trend is equivalent to 1.2 Cº per century.
** The fastest warming rate lasting ten years or more since 1950 occurred over the 33 years from 1974 to 2006. It was equivalent to 2.0 Cº per century.
** In 1990, the IPCC’s mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was equivalent to 3.5 Cº per century.
** The global warming trend since 1990, when the IPCC wrote its first report, is equivalent to 1.4 Cº per century – two-fifths of what the IPCC had then predicted.
** In 2013 the IPCC’s new mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was for warming at a rate equivalent to 1.7 Cº per century – just half its 1990 prediction.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05/04/global-temperature-update-no-global-warming-at-all-for-17-years-9-months/



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Wow! 17 years and 9 months? That's almost as good as some people believing in AGW for the past 20 years... Well, almost. Grin



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There is no such thing as "settled science." Science is a constantly evolving body of knowledge that by its very nature should demand an ever higher burden of proof.

They called the lipid hypothesis settled science, there was a time when it was a "scientific fact" that the smallest particles in the universe were atoms. It was very recently that it was "settled science" that no particle of matter could be in two places at the same time. All of these "facts" have been tested and shown to be either over simplifications or just wrong.

Any one that calls something "settled science" is trying to shut down a conversation. The next step is to label those that disagree and then to isolate them.

I don't if man made global warming actually occurs. I am no scientist, but i do know that using intellectual and economic fascism to silence opposition is not science.

Yes, people are allowed to have any and all opinions.  Just like others are allowed to ignore fringe elements in order to be productive.

The simple fact is ignoring this issue will have exceptionally grave consequences if man-made global warming is true.  These guys want to wait for "proof" which will only exist after the climate and ecosystem as we know it has been destroyed.

I can ask a 100th time what the fallacy with the basic cause behind global warming is and the question will be removed from the quote and ignored for the 100th time.

Sorry, before you wreck the world wide economy and cause the death of many innocent people due to increased food an fuel costs and lower the standard of living for every person on the planet you might want to provide some proof. I am open to all ideas, but I could never accept the idea that we have to destroy the lives of people to prevent something that might happen. That is immoral and unconscionable.
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-brown-lax-remarks-20140514-story.html?track=rss


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You can claim this isn't logical or whatever, but frankly I don't give a shit.

that does sum up your general attitude and position quite nicely.
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well apparently there is a climategate 2 now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2J8zEJHIg8

This simple video is worth all the 45 pages on this thread... Smiley  Thank you for the link.



Yea, listen to some more of his videos.  He also goes into the evil of vaccines.  Good stuff.



really. i always thought that was an area of disagreement between us. can you provide a link please.
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What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.
Perfect reciprocity Smiley


Lol.  Well you should start a subreddit named "/r/ClimateChangeDeniers" or what have you and trust me, I won't show up there. Smiley  Then you guys can kick out anyone who believes in global warming attributed to man.

Also while you are at, create "/r/Smokingdoesntcausecancer"  and possibly "/r/Flatearthsociety"... continue on with "/r/vacinationssuck"

I'll preemptively say thanks for the accolades, but send the tips to the american cancer society, please.

Why go elsewhere when the party is here? The hottest climate change thread club in town! With the smallest carbon footprint to boot.
Our door will always stay open. You and your friends are always welcome here, insults included... Smiley



Don't take offense at this Wilky, but I actually sorta like you.  You have a sense of humor a lot of the others don't.

Smiley


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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong pounds sand against global climate change hoax BS
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, May 18, 2014 9:26 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/18/global-warming-fascist-movement-academic-welfare/

And admirably no mention of whether a global elite is aiding that process,
so at least he isn't arguing that these global movements aren't possibly
coordinated by globalists.

Note he didn't mention the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment in
Brazil. Remember the U.N. was created by globalists as a second attempt
after Rockefeller's League of Nations floundered.

Armstrong is good at identifying the overt visible protagonists. But he is
wary to connect the dots of the globalists who are pulling the
coordination strings behind the curtain which he can't see in his personal
experiences in meeting politicians and academics.
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What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.
Perfect reciprocity Smiley


Lol.  Well you should start a subreddit named "/r/ClimateChangeDeniers" or what have you and trust me, I won't show up there. Smiley  Then you guys can kick out anyone who believes in global warming attributed to man.

Also while you are at, create "/r/Smokingdoesntcausecancer"  and possibly "/r/Flatearthsociety"... continue on with "/r/vacinationssuck"

I'll preemptively say thanks for the accolades, but send the tips to the american cancer society, please.

Why go elsewhere when the party is here? The hottest climate change thread club in town! With the smallest carbon footprint to boot.
Our door will always stay open. You and your friends are always welcome here, insults included... Smiley



Don't take offense at this Wilky, but I actually sorta like you.  You have a sense of humor a lot of the others don't.
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What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.
Perfect reciprocity Smiley


Lol.  Well you should start a subreddit named "/r/ClimateChangeDeniers" or what have you and trust me, I won't show up there. Smiley  Then you guys can kick out anyone who believes in global warming attributed to man.

Also while you are at, create "/r/Smokingdoesntcausecancer"  and possibly "/r/Flatearthsociety"... continue on with "/r/vacinationssuck"

I'll preemptively say thanks for the accolades, but send the tips to the american cancer society, please.

Why go elsewhere when the party is here? The hottest climate change thread club in town! With the smallest carbon footprint to boot.
Our door will always stay open. You and your friends are always welcome here, insults included... Smiley

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What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.
Perfect reciprocity Smiley


Lol.  Well you should start a subreddit named "/r/ClimateChangeDeniers" or what have you and trust me, I won't show up there. Smiley  Then you guys can kick out anyone who believes in global warming attributed to man.

Also while you are at, create "/r/Smokingdoesntcausecancer"  and possibly "/r/Flatearthsociety"... continue on with "/r/vacinationssuck"

I'll preemptively say thanks for the accolades, but send the tips to the american cancer society, please.
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Littleshop.  You have logic problems with your posts here.  Here are a couple...


If I was in a message board trying to have a discussion and a small group was yelling about how the earth was flat or 2+2=5 I would want to shut them up too.  Putting up debunked junk journal links proving 2+2=5 that link to further lies does not help.  

False equivalence.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence  You seem to imply that people who doubt AGW theories, or see a political angle are like those who believe 2+2=5.  This is also an oversimplification and a bit of ad hominem.

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Just like cigarettes don't cause cancer right because you can't put 2 + 2 together. The evidence is overwhelming.  The only thing not certain is the extent and what to do about it.
 False equivalence again, with ad hominim again, but this time with the added bonus of a strawman.  A hat trick!

You are doing badly.  Try again,

Just because you claim false equivalence does not make it so.  For instance, I could accuse you of that logic fallacy in your post.  You are falsely equating his assertion with false equivalence, thereby using it yourself.

Really it comes down to biases for me and what is the underlying cognitive defect of you people to be so nonsensical.  We got 45 pages and Wilky telling us some video is great...  the video by a guy who has issues with vaccines.  Now I'm sure some of you will be like 'hes a free thinker', but a lot of us will be like..

...So we may never share the same love for a particular artist just because we disagree on the subject disputed here? You are telling me I should have watched every single video from that dude, then  agree with every single one of them before agreeing with the one directly linked to the topic at hand in this thread?

Very illogical...



Everyone has opinions. When someone has the opinion that vaccines are bad and given the clear record of history, one should question whether their opinions are worth following.  

Since everyone has opinions, you can endlessly listen to opinions all day.  A smart person will find some way to filter which opinions are worth following and which aren't.

When a guy goes off on vaccines, I know which category I'll put him in.  It is the "not worth my time" category.

You can claim this isn't logical or whatever, but frankly I don't give a shit.  This is the same reason you guys are filtered on a certain subreddits.  This is America and if you were completely forced into silence I'd quicky defend your side.  

That is not what is going on here though. What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.

BTW, music is very subjective and not really particularly analogous to what is going on.

What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.

Perfect reciprocity Smiley

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Littleshop.  You have logic problems with your posts here.  Here are a couple...


If I was in a message board trying to have a discussion and a small group was yelling about how the earth was flat or 2+2=5 I would want to shut them up too.  Putting up debunked junk journal links proving 2+2=5 that link to further lies does not help.  

False equivalence.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence  You seem to imply that people who doubt AGW theories, or see a political angle are like those who believe 2+2=5.  This is also an oversimplification and a bit of ad hominem.

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Just like cigarettes don't cause cancer right because you can't put 2 + 2 together. The evidence is overwhelming.  The only thing not certain is the extent and what to do about it.
 False equivalence again, with ad hominim again, but this time with the added bonus of a strawman.  A hat trick!

You are doing badly.  Try again,

Just because you claim false equivalence does not make it so.  For instance, I could accuse you of that logic fallacy in your post.  You are falsely equating his assertion with false equivalence, thereby using it yourself.

Really it comes down to biases for me and what is the underlying cognitive defect of you people to be so nonsensical.  We got 45 pages and Wilky telling us some video is great...  the video by a guy who has issues with vaccines.  Now I'm sure some of you will be like 'hes a free thinker', but a lot of us will be like..

...So we may never share the same love for a particular artist just because we disagree on the subject disputed here? You are telling me I should have watched every single video from that dude, then  agree with every single one of them before agreeing with the one directly linked to the topic at hand in this thread?

Very illogical...



Everyone has opinions. When someone has the opinion that vaccines are bad and given the clear record of history, one should question whether their opinions are worth following.  

Since everyone has opinions, you can endlessly listen to opinions all day.  A smart person will find some way to filter which opinions are worth following and which aren't.

When a guy goes off on vaccines, I know which category I'll put him in.  It is the "not worth my time" category.

You can claim this isn't logical or whatever, but frankly I don't give a shit.  This is the same reason you guys are filtered on a certain subreddits.  This is America and if you were completely forced into silence I'd quicky defend your side.  

That is not what is going on here though. What is going on is that people should have a right to live their life free of listening to your bullshit, regardless of your sense of entitlement on the issue.

BTW, music is very subjective and not really particularly analogous to what is going on.
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Although totally free to insult anyone including myself, making a "scientific" point about your position by calling people "retards" or edit your post days later might not be the best or smartest move. I am just saying...

Keep on the good work though. Don't be afraid. Never edit anything back! Be proud of what you defend! Always!  Grin



In this instance the word retard was not referring to anyone in this thread either directly or indirectly.  Someone said something asinine then when I questioned them, they told me they don't tutor for free.  I suggested they wouldn't be able to tutor anyone but retards and since they were keen on charging for their tutoring services they would need retards with money.  I then wished them luck with finding clients.


All editing I do is only for grammatical mistakes or  bungled sentences.  I don't think I've ever changed my opinion on anything as the result of this thread.  I'd like to and I sometimes listen to you guys enough to go chase down your sources, but changing any opinion has yet to happen.

Good job on red herrings and completely avoiding anything relevant.
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Littleshop.  You have logic problems with your posts here.  Here are a couple...


If I was in a message board trying to have a discussion and a small group was yelling about how the earth was flat or 2+2=5 I would want to shut them up too.  Putting up debunked junk journal links proving 2+2=5 that link to further lies does not help.  

False equivalence.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence  You seem to imply that people who doubt AGW theories, or see a political angle are like those who believe 2+2=5.  This is also an oversimplification and a bit of ad hominem.

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Just like cigarettes don't cause cancer right because you can't put 2 + 2 together. The evidence is overwhelming.  The only thing not certain is the extent and what to do about it.
 False equivalence again, with ad hominim again, but this time with the added bonus of a strawman.  A hat trick!

You are doing badly.  Try again,

Just because you claim false equivalence does not make it so.  For instance, I could accuse you of that logic fallacy in your post.  You are falsely equating his assertion with false equivalence, thereby using it yourself.

Really it comes down to biases for me and what is the underlying cognitive defect of you people to be so nonsensical.  We got 45 pages and Wilky telling us some video is great...  the video by a guy who has issues with vaccines.  Now I'm sure some of you will be like 'hes a free thinker', but a lot of us will be like..

...So we may never share the same love for a particular artist just because we disagree on the subject disputed here? You are telling me I should have watched every single video from that dude, then  agree with every single one of them before agreeing with the one directly linked to the topic at hand in this thread?

Very illogical...

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