Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 193. (Read 636458 times)

There are all sorts of lesser environmental issues that have absolutely nothing to do with global warming.

This is an issue that is beyond science, yet the deniers still want to hide behind the aegis of their version of "science".

Part of the problem is this idea of "faith" that is taught by religions.  When people are taught to have faith it is all great and such, but then they also have faith in things like science being able to fix this problem without society taking serious corrective action immediately.

Blind faith is the equivalent of not thinking.  That is what Christianity and religions all around the world teach us.  How to not think.

Your avatar animation is very distracting. I need to know everything about her, links, etc....

Regarding how insane some decisions are taken without any logical steps, California pushed hard to ban plastic bags. I hate plastic bags flying in my trees across. So that would make sense for everyone. Yet because no enterprises were created to replace those bags with biodegradable ones, their replacement is coming from almost across the world, from China... Go Green!

I think, if this planet is warming up...then if you down to the panama canal...check to see if the water level on each lock has changed any since it was built.  We live on a dynamic planet with dynamic weather patterns that are on cycles.  How many ice ages have we had?  I suppose your going to blame that on man too!  I dont pretend that pollution isnt bad, but their isnt much I can do about china.  I do my part, I make EVERY effort that what i buy doesnt come from china.   

Ahh, so you are saying climate change has been going on for so long that the changes are "now common" ?

We are having a 2nd major drought.  Last year was just the minor one.  The year before that killed half of our large pecan tree, the sycamore tree, and dozens of the largest elms on my place.  The only thing to survive is mesquites, small elms, and the other trash trees whose name escapes me.

This year we're in the middle of another serious drought and most farmers are going to be screwed.  Luckily last year filled up our surface water enough.  That makes for good hunting when we have the only surface water within miles.  

Lucky me, huh ?

Reddit was smart.  Too many opinions originating from the area of anus.

This is the second year spring is late here.  Cant plant my garden,  too cold, snowed 2 days ago.  Global warm that assholes.  I never seen -50 winters before, but now are common.  I welcome a warmer planet, just like it was in the past!  They cant forecast the weather past 36 hrs, but they can tell you what the planet will be like in 50 years, bullshit!

I wish there was a hell for the climate change deniers and the religions that ignore this problem because it hurts their customer base.  Few deserve Hell more for the damage they put forth upon humanity.

Reddit ain't even comin' close !

I am a fan of no one. For scientists to bring their studies about why they believe human made global warming is real is fine with me. For them to ban or to curtail the speech of other scientists to counter argue, saying that the debate about human made global warming is settled, that I am not a fan of.
I love my planet. I despise pollution. I despise liars. I despise pushers of any kinds. I despise people with a population control agenda who's family members, friends and associates will never be part of that population control scheme.

That is what I am not a fan of in general: Propaganda funded by the tax payers.

Is your assertion that scientists should not question methodoloties, or just with this particular case?

Or are you just not a fan of Richard Feynman?
http://blog.sethroberts.net/2013/09/29/science-is-the-belief-in-the-ignorance-of-experts-application-to-personal-science/

Their circuits are made with rare earth from China, using highly toxic chemicals for their extractions, so not immune to climate change psychosis...

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> this is the insulting robot

> in latest news: scientists discover that robots are immune to climate change psychosis - could the secret lie in their circuits?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/us/politics/using-weathercasters-to-deliver-a-climate-change-message.html?_r=0



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Using the weather when comparing it with global warming is foolish, according to "the real climate change scientists". But now using weather forecasters is not? Hmm.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/report-uses-phrase-climate-disruption-as-another-way-to-say-global-warming/

Climate change’s assorted harms “are expected to become increasingly disruptive across the nation throughout this century and beyond,” the National Climate Assessment concluded Tuesday. The report emphasizes how warming and its all-too-wild weather are changing daily lives, even using the phrase “climate disruption” as another way of saying global warming.

Using the phrase "disruptive" gives the green light for the media to call out any and all severe weather events (eg those exact things known in the insurance industry and in legal terminology as "Acts of God") as caused by man and for which he should repent and feel guilt.

Lots of money in anti-science.  And isn't it nice that the Government is the one who burdens us little people with guilt over our collective abuse of the environment?  Clearly the Government is a force for good, and paying our taxes, sky high though they are, is one small way we can show our contrition and ask forgiveness for the sins of our ways.

Child Psychiatrists: Kids Now Suffering From Anxiety Over Fears of Global Warming…



. . . While the Alberta floods haven’t been directly linked to climate change, destructive weather events are expected to increase in Canada in the future. McLean, a normally upbeat youth, is painfully aware of the sheer power of Mother Nature and the carnage its fury can wreak. She’s now anxious about what we’re doing to our environment. “I volunteered to take an active role in my school’s Model United Nations, which is studying the impact climate change is having on our planet,” she said.

On one hand it scared her, but it also made her want to know more so she could help activate positive change.

Child psychiatrists, psychologists and educators say they’ve seen an escalation in the anxiety levels of today’s youth, who are constantly exposed to doomsday talk about the destruction of our planet. But despite the fact that we live in a world with more volatility and fear, experts say there is hope. And to stay mentally strong, they all advocate not just calling for change, but acting for it.

Dr. Anthony Levitt, Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre’s director of research in the department of psychiatry, agrees climate-change anxiety increasingly enters into the discussions he has with many of the young people who come to see him. “Younger people [teens to mid-20s] appear to be much more accepting of the science and facts than older people,” Levitt observes. He’s also seen an uptick in climate-change-related anxiety in parents with younger children.

“For most people who are anxious about climate change, the anxiety is escalated by the fact they do not see an answer or a way to make a change. Worry plus powerlessness leads to distress,” says Levitt, who is also a professor in the psychiatry department at the University of Toronto.

“The answer, on a personal basis, to this kind of helpless distress is ‘mastery’: that is, helping people to master small tasks that reduce their carbon footprint can lead to a greater sense of control and efficacy for that person – and with that a reduction in anxiety. Can one person taking action to reduce their carbon footprint change global warming? Who knows. But it can relieve the distress that comes from anxiety mixed with impotence that affects a growing number of people in our society,” he said.

North Carolina-based psychotherapist Chris Saade, co-director of the Olive Branch Center, a grief/wellness counselling firm, says he’s seen a huge jump in the number of patients under 18 who come to him with concerns about the environmental crisis.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/youth-anxiety-on-the-rise-amid-changing-climate/article18372258/

That's the old kind of science.  That's over, we've got this new progressive sciency science now.

Can't resist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc

According to the human made climate change supporters, this is exactly what they've been doing all that time. The people who question their methodology are the non scientists, and should be banned.

wasnt the basic of science was to have a hypothesis, questions to the unkowns, and to show facts? that was my view of science was suppose to be based on.

Our well-edumacated idealistic youth will surely guide us to sal(i)vation.



They're indoctrinating my daughter in 8th grade that the man-made global warming HOAX is an undeniable fact.

Since the warming trend didn't occur as predicted, the globalist manipulators have changed the theme to "man-made global climate change" and now they are proposing "man-made global climate DISRUPTION":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6568326

Can you say P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.

The purpose of course is geopolitical control.

Let's Call It 'Climate Disruption,' White House Science Adviser Suggests (Again)




http://news.sciencemag.org/climate/2014/05/lets-call-it-climate-disruption-white-house-science-adviser-suggests-again

extended years of life—that fossil fuels can bring.

The left wants to stop industrialization—even if the hypothesis of catastrophic, man-made global warming is false. John Feffer, my colleague at the Institute for Policy Studies, wrote in the Dec. 8, 2009, Huffington Post that "even if the mercury weren't rising" we should bring "the developing world into the postindustrial age in a sustainable manner." He sees the "climate crisis [as] precisely the giant lever with which we can, following Archimedes, move the world in a greener, more equitable direction."

I started to suspect that the climate-change data were dubious a decade ago while teaching statistics. Computer models used by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to determine the cause of the six-tenths of one degree Fahrenheit rise in global temperature from 1980 to 2000 could not statistically separate fossil-fueled and natural trends.

Then, as now, the computer models simply built in the assumption that fossil fuels are the culprit when temperatures rise, even though a similar warming took place from 1900 to 1940, before fossil fuels could have caused it. The IPCC also claims that the warming, whatever its cause, has slightly increased the length of droughts, the frequency of floods, the intensity of storms, and the rising of sea levels, projecting that these impacts will accelerate disastrously. Yet even the IPCC acknowledges that the average global temperature today remains unchanged since 2000, and did not rise one degree as the models predicted.

But it is as an Africanist, rather than a statistician, that I object most strongly to "climate justice." Where is the justice for Africans when universities divest from energy companies and thus weaken their ability to explore for resources in Africa? Where is the justice when the U.S. discourages World Bank funding for electricity-generation projects in Africa that involve fossil fuels, and when the European Union places a "global warming" tax on cargo flights importing perishable African goods? Even if the wildest claims about the current impact of fossil fuels on the environment and the models predicting the future impact all prove true and accurate, Africa should be exempted from global restraints as it seeks to modernize.

With 15% of the world's people, Africa produces less than 5% of carbon-dioxide emissions. With 4% of global population, America produces 25% of these emissions. In other words, each American accounts for 20 times the emissions of each African. We are not rationing our electricity. Why should Africa, which needs electricity for the sort of income-producing enterprises and infrastructure that help improve life expectancy? The average in Africa is 59 years—in America it's 79. Increased access to electricity was crucial in China's growth, which raised life expectancy to 75 today from 59 in 1968.

According to the World Bank, 24% of Africans have access to electricity and the typical business loses power for 56 days each year. Faced with unreliable power, businesses turn to diesel generators, which are three times as expensive as the electricity grid. Diesel also produces black soot, a respiratory health hazard. By comparison, bringing more-reliable electricity to more Africans would power the cleaning of water in villages, where much of the population still lives, and replace wood and dung fires as the source of heat and lighting in shacks and huts, removing major sources of disease and death. In the cities, reliable electricity would encourage businesses to invest and reinvest rather than send their profits abroad.

Mindful of the benefits, the Obama administration's Power Africa proposal and the World Bank are trying to double African access to electricity. But they have been hamstrung by the opposition of their political base to fossil fuels—even though off-grid and renewable power from the sun, tides and wind is still too unreliable, too hard to transmit, and way too expensive for Africa to build and maintain as its primary source of power.

In 2010 the left tried to block a World Bank loan for a new coal-fired plant in South Africa. Fortunately, the loan was approved (with the U.S. abstaining). The drive to provide electricity for the poor has been perhaps the greatest achievement of South Africa's post-apartheid governments.

Standing on the mountainside at night in Cape Town, overlooking the "Coloured" township of Mitchell's Plain and the African township of Khayelitsha, you can now see a twinkling blanket of bulbs. How terrible to think that so many people in the West would rather block such success stories in the name of unproved science.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303380004579521791400395288

Or we really don't have to do any of that.  But it would MAKE US FEEL BETTER TO DO SO....


“For most people who are anxious about climate change, the anxiety is escalated by the fact they do not see an answer or a way to make a change. Worry plus powerlessness leads to distress,” says Levitt, who is also a professor in the psychiatry department at the University of Toronto.

“The answer, on a personal basis, to this kind of helpless distress is ‘mastery’: that is, helping people to master small tasks that reduce their carbon footprint can lead to a greater sense of control and efficacy for that person – and with that a reduction in anxiety. Can one person taking action to reduce their carbon footprint change global warming? Who knows. But it can relieve the distress that comes from anxiety mixed with impotence that affects a growing number of people in our society,” he said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/youth-anxiety-on-the-rise-amid-changing-climate/article18372258/