Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.
Sometimes, religion controlling the mindset of a person, I know somebody who is actually a Catholic and then after converting to other religion, she began to tell everything about God even if she really doesn't know what she is saying and she really didn't understand why she needs to convert on that religion. I am not really against religions but in her attitude, she really became different after she converts. She always says that she is with God and God is always with her. The truth is, she really doesn't know it, why I am saying this? Because she stole a lot of money in the office of my aunt, she is blaming some of her co-workers and not saying the truth but she claims that she is with God and I don't think that she is really with God. In that thinking, we actually thought that she is really crazy, and for her attitude, I am sure that religion is a virus. 
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I would not call Religion a virus but I would definitely say that Religion controls the way we live our lives - if we are religious of course. Like anything else Religion has also been taken hostage by bad individuals who are trying to gain from it.
That is why it is said that Religion is a dogma - https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dogma
You either believe in the stories and doctrines or you dont, it is a way of life. Everything you do is based on your religion. It tells you what clothes to wear, what food to eat, what kind of people you spend your time with, what to do and when...
That is why it is said that Religion is a dogma - https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dogma
You either believe in the stories and doctrines or you dont, it is a way of life. Everything you do is based on your religion. It tells you what clothes to wear, what food to eat, what kind of people you spend your time with, what to do and when...
Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.
Religion doesn't start war, its a facade - people do. That said, blanket statements about religion are rarely ever helpful considering the vast array of religions out there.
Semantics... religions do start wars
Wars are started because people refuse to settle differences through talking... religious people have no interest in settling differences with people of other religions... the majority of "holy" books (Bible, Quran, etc) state that you are commanded by god to murder anyone who even tries to convert you to another religion, even if it is your own family, parents or children trying to convert you.
If you don't believe that religious differences have started wars... you are willfully ignorant
Also, there is not a "vast array of religions out there"... I can count the religions of the world on 2 hands... 1 hand on a good day (jew, christian, muslim, hindu, buddhist)
Congrats, you're happily perpetuating ignorance.
You cant say both religions start war and then say they start because "people have no interest in settling differences".
If they are all the religions you've been exposed to, then let's be careful not to assume they are completely representative.
Finally, blanket statements about the "majority of 'holy' books" was just errant on so many levels, I just hope people don't fall for these unsubstantiated claims.
If you are going to say I'm wrong, please provide an example
I have read the entire Hebrew bible, and the Christian bible. I have read large sections of the Qur'an, Zohar, Book of Mormon, Bhagavad Gita, Mahabharata, the Pali Canon, Tao Te Ching, and Tibetan book of the dead. I have read Socrates and Plato. I have read Apocryphal books that didn't make it into the canonized bible... Let me know when you have studied all the world religions, and read each of their holy books... then perhaps we can have a debate about it
Please explain how I'm wrong about Jews, Christians and Muslims having zero interest in settling their differences... When have you ever seen Jews, Christians or Muslims do anything but sling hatred and bombs at each other?
Now world religion is a controlling tool of spreading war.They are not following even what religion said.So political is binding with religion and they using it for improving racism and separate people.As humans we have a huge responsibility to minimize this problem.We must spreading humanity except racism.Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.
Religion doesn't start war, its a facade - people do. That said, blanket statements about religion are rarely ever helpful considering the vast array of religions out there.
Semantics... religions do start wars
Wars are started because people refuse to settle differences through talking... religious people have no interest in settling differences with people of other religions... the majority of "holy" books (Bible, Quran, etc) state that you are commanded by god to murder anyone who even tries to convert you to another religion, even if it is your own family, parents or children trying to convert you.
If you don't believe that religious differences have started wars... you are willfully ignorant
Also, there is not a "vast array of religions out there"... I can count the religions of the world on 2 hands... 1 hand on a good day (jew, christian, muslim, hindu, buddhist)
Congrats, you're happily perpetuating ignorance.
You cant say both religions start war and then say they start because "people have no interest in settling differences".
If they are all the religions you've been exposed to, then let's be careful not to assume they are completely representative.
Finally, blanket statements about the "majority of 'holy' books" was just errant on so many levels, I just hope people don't fall for these unsubstantiated claims.
"a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion." - Dictionary definition
Please understand that dictionary definitions are specific to the context that the word is used... this definition is only used when in a context like, "to make a religion of fighting prejudice"
The primary definition is always listed first:
Quote from: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic . religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
Idioms
9. get religion , Informal .
to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic . religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
Idioms
9. get religion , Informal .
to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
To pretend that the 6th definition of religion is the primary one, is not being intellectually honest (Also note, the 6th definition is the last to not be labelled "Archaic")
We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.
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Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, (...)
Religion is a virus (agreed)!! because in any way you see it religion is part of life!! not necessary by been on any popular one!! "a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion." - Dictionary definition. e.g all Blockchain believers are now forming a new kind of religion!! any how you want it look..
so Religion is a Virus with a host (satoshi) spreading across.
so Religion is a Virus with a host (satoshi) spreading across.
the problem is not in religions, it's in false understanding of dogmas. if you indulge fully in a religion, you have no intention of suppressing those around you
Depends on the religion... I would only agree in the case of Hinduism or Buddhism... those 2 get along with other religions
Muslims and Christians have been fighting each other for over a thousand years... Muslims love to suppress others (women are 3rd class citizens - lower than children, majority think apostates should be killed, gays should be killed, etc)... Christians love to suppress others (examples include anti-gay marriage laws, anti-abortion laws, anti-drug/alcohol laws) Religion loves to take away the choice from people who don't even believe in their religion!
Christians hate "Sharia Law", but they love imposing their own believe system on everyone (gays, abortion, drugs, etc)
Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said.
Btw, nobody has asked you "to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there."
When someone can't remember what they posted yesterday...
I realize I said I wouldn't respond to him anymore... but come the fuck on man
And the "those" books that I mentioned are: Isaiah, Revelations, and Hebrews.
It's your continued deceitful attempted deception that shows that you are way off in everything.
Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said.
Btw, nobody has asked you "to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there."
When someone can't remember what they posted yesterday...
I realize I said I wouldn't respond to him anymore... but come the fuck on man
Religion, being the filthy parasitical virus that it it, is precisely so, amongst a myriad of other very bad things time does not allow me to go into detail right now, because not knowing the truth, it declares falsity as absolute truth. Makes me want to puke so disgusting is it.
Thank you for informing us about what your own "filthy parasitical virus" religion is... a filthy parasitical virus religion of anti-religion. You seem to have a self-destruction wish by condemning the basics of what you, yourself are... religious.
Question for the peanut gallery...
If someone claims that something is in the bible, and I dispute that claim (because the bible does not say that)...
Would it be more reasonable for the person claiming that something is in the bible to post a verse from the bible proving it is there, or would it be more reasonable for me to post every verse of the bible which does not say that? (who seriously asks someone to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there?!?)
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#BurdenOfProof
If someone claims that something is in the bible, and I dispute that claim (because the bible does not say that)...
Would it be more reasonable for the person claiming that something is in the bible to post a verse from the bible proving it is there, or would it be more reasonable for me to post every verse of the bible which does not say that? (who seriously asks someone to post every verse from the bible to prove it is not in there?!?)
Asking for a friend
#BurdenOfProof
We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Religion, being the filthy parasitical virus that it it, is precisely so, amongst a myriad of other very bad things time does not allow me to go into detail right now, because not knowing the truth, it declares falsity as absolute truth. Makes me want to puke so disgusting is it.
I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that
The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven
Where is this in the bible? Got a chapter and verse?
The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
Where is this?
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.
Where is this?
The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.
Where is this?
Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?
The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible
it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?
I told you it isn't in there and you just proved it by not posting a single chapter or verse
I'm done responding to you because you lack intellectual honesty.
We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Bye troll... Sorry, not sorry
You sure are having your troubles today. I showed you where to look, but you want to dictate the terms of how and what I show you. Do your own research.
Let me say it to you another way. Be intellectually honest. Post all the parts of those Bible books that DON'T talk about the things I said. Do it just to show that you have the ability to read... if you do, that is.
I'll help you out. Simply Google "Bible Hub, NIV,
And do this just to be intellectually honest, according to your quote in your post that I quoted, above.
God isn't going to answer you on your terms. He isn't your servant. But if He does, you are blessed. I have answered you way more than He is willing to put up with your contemptuous stupidity.
It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.
What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.
What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.
I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests
Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that
That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?
Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...
I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about, but you talked about "hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked." The Bible never says any of that. You said it.
But the Bible talks of the new universe in both Isaiah and the Revelation. And the New Testament talks in various places about the joy that we have and will have with God. Hebrews even says that the coming joy that Jesus understood, was the reason why He did His work on the cross.
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
Moloch, you just broke our resident village idiot. He is a broken toy now, rocking in his favorite chair, looking out the window, pass the iron bars, watching the clouds, his saliva slowly drooling on his, fleshly washed, white jacket is unable to utter his name. A nurse just placed his afternoon tray, full of his favorite pink honeyberries as he calls them. He did not notice her as his eyes moved to the floor and fixated on the Bible he has dropped four hours ago.
Now, even a team of psychiatrists will not be able to put him back together.
I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that
The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven
Where is this in the bible? Got a chapter and verse?
The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
Where is this?
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.
Where is this?
The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.
Where is this?
Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?
The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible
it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?
I told you it isn't in there and you just proved it by not posting a single chapter or verse
I'm done responding to you because you lack intellectual honesty.
We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, negotiations, product and service descriptions, various forms of persuasion, and public communications such as announcements, speeches, lectures, instruction, presentations, publications, declarations, briefings, news releases, policy statements, reports, religious instructions, social media posts, and journalism including not only prose and speech, but graphs, photographs, and other means of expression.
Bye troll... Sorry, not sorry
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Religion must not going to parents to children.People can be choose what they following or not.
I totally agree. People are forcing children to accept certain religion when the children are to young to have their own judgement.
Leave the kids alone, let them decide what to follow later, when they can actually make a proper choice.
Why blame the parents? Parents usually baptised their child in the religion they believe would guide their child's moral values as he/she grows up.
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Exactly. When they get older, if they want to follow a religion then let them be. But teaching them in the ways of a religion, making their way of life before they know better, is forcing it to children.
With this kind of mentality, children are instilled with wrong idea of liberty of their choices. They would often choose to disobey norms and moral values not thinking of any consequences of their actions.
I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that
The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven
Where is this in the bible? Got a chapter and verse?
The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
Where is this?
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.
Where is this?
The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.
Where is this?
Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?
The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible
The "hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi, etc." was something that you said, and you acted like it was a heaven for you. That's why I threw in the word "heaven." However, I already told you this, and I even told you that it wasn't in the Bible. If you read the Bible like you read what I said, no wonder you don't understand about salvation.
The rest of it is scattered here and there, and is a compilation of things from several places in the Bible. Since you know the Bible so well, you show me where it is. I already started you off with places to look - Isaiah, Revelations, Hebrews. What's the matter? You want me to do all your research for you?
It's too bad that a good atheist will get damned because He doesn't believe God.
What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.
What's really wonderful is that a bad Christian will get saved because he does.
I'd rather be partying in hell with Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked... than in heaven being bored for eternity, while in the company of a bunch of "bad Christians" and pedophile priests
Some hells are worse than others, even if they are called heaven... good luck with that
That's right. The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven. The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
Are you like trying to start a new cult or something?
Because, I have actually read the bible, and it doesn't say ANY of that...
I don't know what the "any of that" is that you are talking about
If you have anything in particular that you are talking about, spit it out with particulars rather than with some general "ANY of that."
By "any of that", I mean literally every single sentence in your response... the bible doesn't say any of that
The Hell of "Socrates, Buddha, Gandhi and all the Rock Bands that ever rocked" is a fake hell that is called a heaven
Where is this in the bible? Got a chapter and verse?
The real Hell is the dissolution of this universe... which includes the spirit and soul and eternity and infinity.
Where is this?
The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was.
Where is this?
The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe.
Where is this?
Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
None of that is in the bible... have you even read the bible?
The descriptions of heaven in the bible consist of only a few sentences talking about streets of gold... none of the stuff you said is in the bible
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The real Heaven is an entirely new universe that is made out of physics laws that can never be corrupted like this one was. The joy that was originally in this universe before corruption entered, will be greatly improved upon in the new universe. Probably eternity and infinity will be expanded and extended in ways that we can't understand in this faulty universe... but without corruption.
That's one hell of a theory. Nothing you said really make sense, this is all looks kinda sect-stuff. I too think that religion isn't really helpful in a big sense, but some people find it comforting still.
I have a positive attitude to religion, but yes, I believe that it should not be imposed from childhood, but give the child a full awareness of this world, banal knowledge and achievements of mankind.
And only then ask him: "Do you want to be a believer?".
And only then ask him: "Do you want to be a believer?".
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