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legendary
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October 01, 2014, 12:16:19 PM
#82
Don't worry, I have an iron helmet just in case.  Grin Grin Grin

Medieval/Ancient people was funny, if they win a battle "the lord was with them", but when they lose, the lord was never with the enemy... f**king retarded monkeys!
legendary
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October 01, 2014, 09:54:50 AM
#81
But in the end they are the same. The only difference is the philosopher claiming to had the ideas or put a puppet God and start a ventriloquism show.
The problem is, in religion, we are talking about philosophers with severe mental issues, Muhammad for an instance, if alive today, would be medicated or interned for schizophrenia, making the world to look crazy.

Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism are good examples of people united around philosophy.

Just for the fun on how ridiculous the Jew-based theists are, they believe in this "Almighty" God:

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Judges 1:19

Now the LORD was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots.

Oh boy! It looks like iron works as kryptonite for God!  Grin Grin Grin

The people of that ancient Israel time all died. Few people ever had such devotion for the Lord that they did not die.

The Lord was with Judah. Possessing the hill country was reasonably easy. The fight against the valley was a test to see if Judah was willing to be with the Lord.

You should take note of this. Judah was given the hill country by the Lord because the Lord favored them. But the thing He wanted from them was their hearts... true devotion. They didn't give it. They didn't totally deny Him, but they didn't give the devotion the Lord was looking for, so they didn't get the valley.

Note Judges 2:1-5.

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The angel of the LORD went up from Gilgal to Bokim and said, “I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land that I swore to give to your forefathers. I said, ‘I will never break my covenant with you, and you shall not make a covenant with the people of this land, but you shall break down their altars.’ Yet you have disobeyed me. Why have you done this? Now therefore I tell you that I will not drive them out before you; they will be [thorns] in your sides and their gods will be a snare to you.”

When the angel of the LORD had spoken these things to all the Israelites, the people wept aloud, and they called that place Bokim. There they offered sacrifices to the LORD.

Note in the above verses that the people partially repented. Of course, their hearts were still not quite right. Part of their repentance had to do with the fact that they were going to have a harder time driving the nations from the lands they were to receive as an inheritance. Their repentance still didn't have as much to do with a desire to please the Lord as it should have.

Now, as for you. When you attempt to poke fun of the Lord, consider what He did to both the nations of Canaan, and disobedient Israel, and be afraid. He is not a God of no power. Be scared.

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legendary
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October 01, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
#80

In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.

Minor issue, there exists an error in the construction of the argument.  Neither evolution or intelligent design proves or disproves a god.

Intelligent design could simply be super smart aliens playing with their toys.  Gamers.

ID does not prove or even buttress the argument for a god.  I understand why believers hold that it does.  They seek proof of words such as "God created (man, woman...).  Then confronted with evolution created man, they devise ID.  The logical fallacy is in believing that ID means "God created..."

ID actually means (set of possible creators and gamers) created (man, woman...)

This cannot be disproven by believers in ID who in fact are creationist religious people.
True, I was addressing the belief of a god creating us vs evolution, should have phrased my question better.

It's not specifically an error you made.  It is a fundamental error in the "controversy".  BOTH atheists and religious people are actually arguing an incorrectly formulated proposition.

Behind this is the actual question:  Is the universe rich and abundant in intelligence and consciousness, or is in poor in these quantities?  At one far end of this spectrum of possibilities is the theory that in the entire universe, there exists only God, and humans and life on Earth he created.   I certainly reject this theory as anthropomorphically centered and ridiculous.

IF on the contrary the universe is rich in intelligence and consciousness then a range of possibilities exist, from a God which created them all to a a diverse group of levels from something similar to us, to something we might consider weakly godlike, to things we cannot conceive of.  This seems the most likely actual reality. 
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
September 30, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
#79
This is a prime example of a shitstorm Cheesy
legendary
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September 30, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
#78
But in the end they are the same. The only difference is the philosopher claiming to had the ideas or put a puppet God and start a ventriloquism show.
The problem is, in religion, we are talking about philosophers with severe mental issues, Muhammad for an instance, if alive today, would be medicated or interned for schizophrenia, making the world to look crazy.

Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism are good examples of people united around philosophy.

Just for the fun on how ridiculous the Jew-based theists are, they believe in this "Almighty" God:

Quote
Judges 1:19

Now the LORD was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots.

Oh boy! It looks like iron works as kryptonite for God!  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
September 30, 2014, 10:05:50 AM
#77
Whether you like it or not, religion is essential to the human ecosystem. Religion complements science. Science is precise but restrictive while religion is baseless but allows for more possibilities. Religion stems from imagination which enables creativity, science is rooted in hard facts obtained from observation which acts as an anchor to this reality.

So does arts, so do philosophy.
Religion is philosophy shortcut for philosophers without character. A philosopher likes to see their ideas put to work, but people doesn't accept orders from their equals easy, so some came up with making their ideas as "from God".

The world needs to be in control of the people. 'No man is an island', no man can exist within society without being part of it. Philosophy stems from personal reflections on the outside world and is less easily digested by society. Religion and science are far more easily controllable and bind vast numbers of people together. By comparison, philosophy will maybe manage to unite a handful of believers. Science and religion have always been the two dominant forces in the world.
legendary
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September 30, 2014, 09:27:15 AM
#76
Whether you like it or not, religion is essential to the human ecosystem. Religion complements science. Science is precise but restrictive while religion is baseless but allows for more possibilities. Religion stems from imagination which enables creativity, science is rooted in hard facts obtained from observation which acts as an anchor to this reality.

So does arts, so do philosophy.
Religion is philosophy shortcut for philosophers without character. A philosopher likes to see their ideas put to work, but people doesn't accept orders from their equals easy, so some came up with making their ideas as "from God".
legendary
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September 30, 2014, 07:53:08 AM
#75
Whether you like it or not, religion is essential to the human ecosystem. Religion complements science. Science is precise but restrictive while religion is baseless but allows for more possibilities. Religion stems from imagination which enables creativity, science is rooted in hard facts obtained from observation which acts as an anchor to this reality.
sr. member
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September 30, 2014, 04:36:19 AM
#74
Is there any more evidence for the existance of god than there is for the existance of the tooth fairy?
legendary
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We are the champions of the night
September 30, 2014, 01:42:43 AM
#73
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
Incorrect, atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god, there is no book of atheism that says there can be no religion.  The majority of them have no problem with it as long as it does not affect their lives.

Atheism exists only as a definition of an abstract idea. So-called atheists have simply deluded themselves into thinking that there is no God.  There aren't any atheists.

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Where is the evidence that there is a god?  We simply draw conclusions based on the information we have available.  I find it much harder to believe that we were all zapped into existence in 7 days, mankind was doomed to a whole bunch of bad stuff because the first 2 people ate a piece of fruit that god told them not to, yet put right in their reach, a Jewish guy he sent down was killed and came back from the dead after 3 days to save people from bad things they've done/will do because god couldn't just clean the slate, and everything that he wants us to know was told through a whole bunch of ancient tribesmen that wrote it down and passed the books down for thousands of years.
legendary
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September 30, 2014, 01:10:10 AM
#72
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
Incorrect, atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god, there is no book of atheism that says there can be no religion.  The majority of them have no problem with it as long as it does not affect their lives.

Atheism exists only as a definition of an abstract idea. So-called atheists have simply deluded themselves into thinking that there is no God. There aren't any atheists.

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legendary
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We are the champions of the night
September 29, 2014, 11:02:55 PM
#71
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
Incorrect, atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god, there is no book of atheism that says there can be no religion.  The majority of them have no problem with it as long as it does not affect their lives.
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
September 29, 2014, 10:58:32 PM
#70
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
legendary
Activity: 1218
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We are the champions of the night
September 29, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
#69

In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.

Minor issue, there exists an error in the construction of the argument.  Neither evolution or intelligent design proves or disproves a god.

Intelligent design could simply be super smart aliens playing with their toys.  Gamers.

ID does not prove or even buttress the argument for a god.  I understand why believers hold that it does.  They seek proof of words such as "God created (man, woman...).  Then confronted with evolution created man, they devise ID.  The logical fallacy is in believing that ID means "God created..."

ID actually means (set of possible creators and gamers) created (man, woman...)

This cannot be disproven by believers in ID who in fact are creationist religious people.
True, I was addressing the belief of a god creating us vs evolution, should have phrased my question better.
legendary
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September 29, 2014, 10:04:36 PM
#68

In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.

Minor issue, there exists an error in the construction of the argument.  Neither evolution or intelligent design proves or disproves a god.

Intelligent design could simply be super smart aliens playing with their toys.  Gamers.

ID does not prove or even buttress the argument for a god.  I understand why believers hold that it does.  They seek proof of words such as "God created (man, woman...).  Then confronted with evolution created man, they devise ID.  The logical fallacy is in believing that ID means "God created..."

ID actually means (set of possible creators and gamers) created (man, woman...)

This cannot be disproven by believers in ID who in fact are creationist religious people.
legendary
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Merit: 1386
September 29, 2014, 09:55:08 PM
#67
......

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief
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I have been personally called out as dumb for believing in a god. Most atheist I have meet have a superiority complex to believers thinking were retards. Not saying you are but most atheist are assholes in my opinion due to there ignorance in thinking this way.

NEITHER various types of theism (Catholic, Muslim, etc), or atheism (Communist Russia, China, North Korea, etc) seem to do very well when codified into the laws of a country and pushed on the population.

I say let each man or woman pick what beliefs seem to suit them best.
legendary
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We are the champions of the night
September 29, 2014, 08:38:33 PM
#66
Genital mutilation: Islam and Judaism.

Catholic Church: Antisemitism for ~2000 years.

Buddhism: Karma, if your people gets slaughtered it's because they deserved it.
By genital mutilation you mean circumcision because if so its being scientifically researched that it might reduce chance of cancer. also why do people have to be such dickheads about religion because if you really believed in free speech then you wouldn't be attacking people for saying they believe in a god  or saying bless you when you sneeze.

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief

btw #7 Atheisim

-violence
-convert or else
-theism discrimination
-godphobia
-violence towards Christians

I'm an Agnostic, but I do hate Atheists

Let people believe what they want
-I don't see any cases of Atheists blowing up abortion clinics or beating people up for their sexual orientation.  The lack of a belief in a god doesn't make us more violent.

-We don't threaten to burn you in a eternal fire if you don't convert to atheism like some religions.  People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

-Wait, what?  Since when do we discriminate against people that believe in a god?

-You can't fear what doesn't exist

-The lack of a belief in a god does not cause you to be violent towards somebody that does.

I have been personally called out as dumb for believing in a god. Most atheist I have meet have a superiority complex to believers thinking were retards. Not saying you are but most atheist are assholes in my opinion due to there ignorance in thinking this way.

The debunking of which includes all kinds of twisted logic that can be applied in ways exactly the opposite for debunking. We still see entropy all around us.

Smiley
In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
September 29, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
#65
Genital mutilation: Islam and Judaism.

Catholic Church: Antisemitism for ~2000 years.

Buddhism: Karma, if your people gets slaughtered it's because they deserved it.
By genital mutilation you mean circumcision because if so its being scientifically researched that it might reduce chance of cancer. also why do people have to be such dickheads about religion because if you really believed in free speech then you wouldn't be attacking people for saying they believe in a god  or saying bless you when you sneeze.

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief

btw #7 Atheisim

-violence
-convert or else
-theism discrimination
-godphobia
-violence towards Christians

I'm an Agnostic, but I do hate Atheists

Let people believe what they want
-I don't see any cases of Atheists blowing up abortion clinics or beating people up for their sexual orientation.  The lack of a belief in a god doesn't make us more violent.

-We don't threaten to burn you in a eternal fire if you don't convert to atheism like some religions.  People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

-Wait, what?  Since when do we discriminate against people that believe in a god?

-You can't fear what doesn't exist

-The lack of a belief in a god does not cause you to be violent towards somebody that does.

I have been personally called out as dumb for believing in a god. Most atheist I have meet have a superiority complex to believers thinking were retards. Not saying you are but most atheist are assholes in my opinion due to there ignorance in thinking this way.

The debunking of which includes all kinds of twisted logic that can be applied in ways exactly the opposite for debunking. We still see entropy all around us.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2014, 07:36:33 PM
#64
So what? Did they put a knife to your throat or point a gun at your head?
Theists call us all sort of things, and some actually want us killed.

And yes, we see theists in the same way you see a kid who still believes in Santa. But that's just because that's how they actually look.
sr. member
Activity: 331
Merit: 250
September 29, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
#63
Genital mutilation: Islam and Judaism.

Catholic Church: Antisemitism for ~2000 years.

Buddhism: Karma, if your people gets slaughtered it's because they deserved it.
By genital mutilation you mean circumcision because if so its being scientifically researched that it might reduce chance of cancer. also why do people have to be such dickheads about religion because if you really believed in free speech then you wouldn't be attacking people for saying they believe in a god  or saying bless you when you sneeze.

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief

btw #7 Atheisim

-violence
-convert or else
-theism discrimination
-godphobia
-violence towards Christians

I'm an Agnostic, but I do hate Atheists

Let people believe what they want
-I don't see any cases of Atheists blowing up abortion clinics or beating people up for their sexual orientation.  The lack of a belief in a god doesn't make us more violent.

-We don't threaten to burn you in a eternal fire if you don't convert to atheism like some religions.  People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

-Wait, what?  Since when do we discriminate against people that believe in a god?

-You can't fear what doesn't exist

-The lack of a belief in a god does not cause you to be violent towards somebody that does.

I have been personally called out as dumb for believing in a god. Most atheist I have meet have a superiority complex to believers thinking were retards. Not saying you are but most atheist are assholes in my opinion due to there ignorance in thinking this way.
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