Topic: Religion shitlist - page 4. (Read 5002 times)

And you are incorrect.  There's this thing called the burden of proof when making a claim (that there is a god)

C'mon, that's like saying there is no proof for atheism. 

Prove that Santa doesn't exist, and you will have the exact proofs that show you that God DOES exist.

ok so you dont know what atheism is either.
We are not denying anything, we are saying there is no proof of a being like that

Prove to me that santa dont excist and I will prove with the same argument that God dont excist

All the religions are practiced incorrectly by at least some of their people. All the religions have people who are ignorant of some of the tenets of their very own religion. Since it has not been proven that God does NOT exist (even by atheists), atheism is a religion, and one that attempts to hide the fact that atheists are setting themselves up as god, simply by denying the existence of God, without being able to prove that God doesn't exist.

WTF are you talking about?!
The shitlist is by DOCTRINE, on personal basis there are Muslim pacifists and violent Buddhists. The list refers to what the religion preaches.
Atheism has no doctrines, the only doctrine is "there is no God", absolutely nothing else.

The true meaning of "Christian" has to do with salvation from death in this life, and salvation from everlasting death in the next life, and salvation for everlasting life in the next life.

Anyone who forces Christianity onto anyone in this life, might be doing him a favor, but is going against the tenets of Christianity. Even God doesn't force anyone to become a Christian.

Gender inequality? How silly to even mention this. Why? Men and women are extremely different. In fact, there isn't equality between any two individual people, except that we are all in need of salvation. And in this area, we ARE considered equal by the Christian religion.

As far as homophobia goes, there is hatred and fear all over the place. It isn't limited to people who say that they are Christians. And it isn't limited to homophobia. The Christian religion teaches against homosexuality, because it destroys the lives and productivity of those who practice it. So, in fact, the Christian religion is exactly in the opposite direction of homophobia. This doesn't mean that all Christians practice their religion correctly.

There are Christians who are violent. There are Christians who are nonviolent. The Christian religion teaches love. But, if a Christian people are attacked by someone or some group, where should the love be focused first? Same as with anyone else of any other group. The love of family or other Christians should be first priority with Christians (outside of love for God). In fact, if a Christian loves his neighbor who is attacking him as much as he loves himself, he might use violence to stop his neighbor from the attack. After all, he wouldn't want his neighbor to fall into sin and lose his mortal soul.

The basis for all true Christianity is in the Bible, and particularly in the New Testament. Read it and see that violence is nowhere advocated. In fact the opposite is requested of Christians. It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. This doesn't mean that all Christians are going to act correctly.

Notice how the religion of Atheism isn't in the original list.

And then there is the smart people who does not need a religion to make them function..

Religion is the root to all Evil. No matter which one it is.

Hardly. Still religion is not the ONLY reason for war.


Nationalism and Communism. Those are pretty much as hazardous as religion, or even worse, as religious people is naturally "not as developed" what helps in contain their hazard and nationalists and communists are highly scientific, meaning they can build way better weapons and develop better strategies.
But China isn't the only majority non-believer country, Sweden, Netherlands, UK, France, Norway... most of the European countries have a higher percentage of Atheists and Agnostics than Theists.
Usually Atheists doesn't consider China a place of "proper atheism", because it is imposed by their party. Atheism is a place where you need to get by yourself, studying and observing, can't work in a way that it could be imposed.


Nobody says theists should be attacked or are a lower species... When did the atheists attack theists for such reason? And by attack I mean physical assault, words are just words, if we go down the road of consider arguments an aggression then I'll start to kick Jehovah witnesses on sight, because they insist into talk their religion to me.

If there was a country with an atheist majority, it would be invovled in as many wars as a theist country

China is the only big country with a non-believer majority, as far as I know they aren't very peaceful with the disputes against Japan and allegedly ramming Vietnamese ships

I don't see why theists should be attacked and thought of a lower species just because they believe there's a god.

No, you don't need religion to have wars, neither end religion will end war. Religion is however a common source of "cheap labor" for dirty jobs, so one less reason to war would help a bit.

But why you keep going around "the Americans"?! The Russians did the same, the Iraqis, the Saudis, the wherever you are from... that is off-topic anyway.

You also forget the main reason for wars: stealing resources just like americans are doing. You don't need to be a religious to do that but using a religion as a front for this very purpose is quite common.

What wars?! Convert to nothing or die?!
Atheists may fight in wars to protect their homeland, causing them... I don't see how.
The closest thing to violent atheists are communists, but they worship their leaders, making them a sort of religion of its own kind.

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Are you trying to claim that atheists aren't responsible for any wars?

The US Army isn't a person to be an atheist or not.
It doesn't assume there is or isn't a God - actually up to not that long ago it had God in the oath, making it theist.
Either way it doesn't deny God to be an atheist.

And for the notice, avoid Sufism, that dialectic is outdated since Socrates and Plato, some 2300 years ago.

It is not a theology but it is certainly driven by ideology.


Exactly. The american army is then an atheist (by ideology) army killing theists and making terrorist attacks in other countries.

Exactly what moderate non-violent theists do. Does Jehovah witnesses commit any violence just by talking?

?! What a BS question! Is US a theology? Doesn't it allow theists?
So there you have it: It's neither. It's the United States Army, not any God(s) or Godless army.