Topic: Request for the merit source for the Polish board (Read 646 times)

I also wants to thank you for the help and little lift though it's not my local board but I feels the pains as well whereby the appointed merits sources are not active to distribute those merits accordingly to post that merits it. I will have a little suggestions for you to do although I am trying to force you to do that but is something other merit source with enough merits do offer to our local board.
Like for instance you will ask pawel7777 to develop himself or any other user from their LB to pick out some of the quality post and assemble them in a thread in their local board after which he should pm you the thread where he selected those users and their quality posts maybe you can do this for like 1 months or 4 months to see the activities of the Polish local board.  I don't know if others already suggested this as well..

Hugeblack also gives same offers to all local board were he posted at Beginning & Helps sections, I think is temporarily blocked for now, but still that of our localboard post are still active I guess.  Reason he did that  he is not a native of Nigeria and can't translate our local pidgin correctly even though most of the post were purely written by english but is being mixed with pidgin along the line there could be break in translation without the native speaker so he chooses the most reputable user in our local to do that. Believe me the activities of our NLB has increased exponentially I think @Rikafip can attest that of our activities.

Well your point of view and opinion is not a bad idea but local board also part and parcel in the forum so if someone post a quality post in the local board and it is worth awarding with merits then there is no need for holding it. Now when a project is launched in the forum, those who are in the local board also use the service to do one thing or the other so if their services are needed in a particular job they would also be hired. Local Boards are also to expand the awareness of bitcoin and not only for Signature Campaigns.

Now what you are indirectly saying that people should not invest in bitcoin because it is through the local board participation people are well equipped in the general boards. I am not disagreeing with you but we should allow the merit Sources in the local boards therefore I am in full support of the op request. Some people post only in local board because they can't speak fluently in the general boards with English language but can do well in the local. So Those people should not grow in the forum because they can't speak with English language fluently?

Thanks Philip, that's very generous of you, really appreciated. I'll earmark the amount received as for the purpose of meriting our local board. I guess I'll be an informal merit source for a few months (or years if activity drops even further haha).


Thanks both! We have a lot of potentially good candidates (some much better than me) but, for various reasons, none of us wants to apply for the position. I stated the reasons on why I'm hesitant in the discussion topic in our local board (and so did the others). But I'm sure one of us will step up to the challenge eventually  .

Here is 50 more.

I am trying to lower my unspent merits from 1400 to 400. I am at 800 since I have been doing more gives.

I can't speak and read but one language so while I would love to read and help directly I have to do it with a proxy such as your self.

To be fair, I think we should be good for quite a while with all the merits we got even from this topic alone (again, massive thanks to all the senders). As per Rikafip's latest update, we jumped from being the worst (with 0.04 merit per post) to a number 3 (with 1.0 merit per post):


The current problem we have is with low activity, as there are only few active posters. Hopefully things will pick up when Bitcoin starts pumping.

We still don't have a merit source, but that's on us. We had a discussion, everyone agrees we should have one, but no one wants to volunteer for the job  Oh well.

If a post really deserves to be merited, I would merit it without thinking twice. I wouldn't even check whether it was a local or global post. But again, I do believe what you just said to be true. It may sound sad and unfair, but it's the current reality with local boards (not all, but yes). For example, I can bring up my local board. If you notice closely, you will see that users are sending merits to themselves only. The incoming and outgoing merits are all in the local thread. Some could say that the user doesn't know English, which is why all his merits are local. But NO!!! That's not true. These users do post on global boards, but they lack quality and information. As a result, they don't get any merit from global users. The sad thing is they don't even try to improve their post qualities. As they know, they already have a way to earn merits, rank up, and join sigs. And this will continue until people stop giving away merits to the locals. I'm not against sending merits on local, I do send my merits to the locals too. But not as much as I used to be because of this reason.

anything is better then nothing TBH,

we don't have active merit source from months, so we are running on left overs all the time

if few mentioned by me members that keep our local board alive don't try to get some merits outside Polish board creating merit catching threads and then share some in local board then there are no other merits coming in


thanks for taking time to check this thread, agree OP is good candidate for merit source and few from our local members already mentioned that and vouched for him here, me included.

How many smerits per month would get you guys going? 50, 100? I haven't seen any bias, or any signs of abuse from OP, it seems they are respectful and trustworthy, besides I don't think they need a lot. And if they don't have an active source, OP could be a good candidate.

Poland has been a country with talented people, who knows who can emerge from those unmerited newbies?

I am bumping this thread because nothing changed in Polish board, we still don't have active merit source and new once are not nominated despite this request

Our moderator @Malevolent and also merit source wasn't on forum from 8 months, and we really need some more merits in our local board, luckily I have seen @Rath_ active, from what I know he was our second merit source, so maybe we will see some posts merited if he find time and still is merit source

also some moderation could be useful but this is maybe topic for another thread, just hope that if this will catch attention from forum stuff maybe they will also deal with it at the same time  

activity, merits, written posts, rewarded post - in one word activity on our local Polish board keep declining all the time and we already are on the last places in rankings published on forum, in my opinion this is also because of the lack of merit source. No chance for newbies to get some merits, don't mention to get so many to rank up, so many quit after they realize that

Luckily from few years there are few members that keep this local board alive, keep posting new threads, try to comment frequently, answer to newbies posts to keep them engaged and convince to stay for longer, but whiteout steady flow of fresh merits is hard to do it

hope that this thread will finally catch some attention from forum staff

Did you report these posts? All of them are Newbies but as a Patroller I don't see any report for them in the queue.
If you report these posts Patrollers and Global Moderators can act on them.

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You can PM me the best posts monthly so I can evaluate them and send merit until you get a new merit source.

i think we need a new moderator on the polish board rather than a merit source.
what the last days/weeks and months there for new (trash) topics have arisen, where any projects/airdrops or websites are being advertised... that takes so slowly out of hand and makes the whole polish board more confusing. here are a few examples:

• 🌟 Konstruktor produktów P2E / Marketplace / Blockchain Custom 🌟
• wymiana dostepami do primary market
• DogonSwap Airdrop is LIVE 📣
• "Władza zdecentralizowana: Wzmacnianie suwerenności narodowej poprzez innowacje
• dobre kasyna
• polskie sloty

these are all threads that have been created by new users who then simply have not and will not check in again
and since unfortunately our moderator malevolent has not been online for almost half a year, no one can delete these things and bring order back to the board

Yes, I know you didn't start this thread to collect merits and you probably know my view about this topic, which slightly changed in this thread because of so many replies from some people that I respect there but I gave you a tiny drop of merits as an appreciation of what you intend to do. That's very good that you have a supply of a few months! Now, let's see the action 
Good luck!

Wow, that's bold. Thanks a lot! And thanks to all the others who merited.
Just for the record, I didn't start this post to ask/beg for merits but just to flag the need for a merit source to the forum admins. But I'll do my best to share the merits I received on my local board. And since I received quite a lot and the activity on the Polish board is not very high, this should be enough for at least a few months.
I can already tell the merit activity this month is already MUCH better than it was in June.

I added more merits, use them wisely on your local board.

I think acting like a merit source in this way is a good test for that community. As a user, you cannot promote someone to be the merit source, but you can give some merits, and then see, how they will distribute them.

Also, it is better, because it requires sacrificing some of your own merits (unless you are a source), and is more resistant to abuse: you gave something you earned by writing good posts, and you gave only a finite amount, and not the ability to merit everything endlessly.

Maybe I was too tough here and probably you are right. Now I know what to do for the next time when I see merit abuse and I believe the ones who have power there, will act fairly and immediately.

Now you have 2 sMerits from me, use it on your local board. I have another 9 sMerits but will keep them for other people, but to be completely honest, this user called o_e_l_e_o just drains my sMerits. I know he has tons of merits and doesn't really need one, is probably the most merited person but this guy is so educated, so helpful and posts so many genuine posts, I just feel guilty if I don't merit him And still, I try not to merit him because wanna save them for other good people too

I do understand where you're coming from but few things to consider:
- Merit history is publicly available, so when you have few people sending all merits between each other that could actually work against them i.e. they could get rejected from signature campaigns if a manager cares to take a closer look.
- This is not unique to local boards and abuse (or in-group preference) could happen outside of local boards.
- Finally, the idea is (or should be) to have every board "covered" by someone who is a merit source, this doesn't mean that local board participants who are sources have to distribute all their sMerits there, they could do it on other boards. Distributable merits are not earmarked.

So it all boils down to whether the right people are chosen as sources and whether their monthly allowance is of the right size. And also to whether campaign managers are doing enough to fight spam/low-quality posts.


Massive thanks (and to others who merited). Much appreciated.

Overtime work in Germany is a joke, you are still getting the same salary, not 50% more like in the USA and to be honest, it's still a questionable whether you get paid for your overtime or not.
Btw there is a thing that I have been thinking about lately: Work in delivery, for example in DHL on fixed contract, like, you get paid for 37.5 hours a week, doesn't matter whether you work more or less, you are getting paid for 37.5 hours a week. If you master car driving and streets where you have to deliver to, then you will finish your job in 5 hours but you are still getting paid for 7.5 hours of work. This way, you are have free 2.5 hour. If you work in tech at the same time, live near the post office and will be quickly at home, then you can work remotely as a freelancer. This way, you get all the benefits, like sick leave, 30 days paid vacation, etc. You can avoid to pay taxes as a freelancer, that's entirely possible but definitely I won't write it down. This combo sounds cool for me but it will be difficult at the same time.

you are 100% correct, I agree with you on this fully, I was living/working in few west European countries and all are the same "...The more you work, the more you earn, the more taxes you pay..." and all what is paid for overtime they collect back in much higher taxes,

better to not do any over hours if one work on a contract somewhere in hourly wage because there is no sense, tax is so high that in the end one will be paid for over hours even less as for regular 8 hours, despite on income check is stated that it was paid with 200% bonus for Sunday for example

so yes i agree "In Europe you pay so much taxes, you can't really collect any wealth" - situation is worse with each year, 20 years back it was different, especially for low-middle class with regular 8 hours jobs


Merit sources are especially necessary in local boards and Polish is the best example of what can happen when they're gone

Just because it happens sometimes, doesn't mean that there should be no local board merit sources at all. After all, local board merit sources rarely constrict themsleves to their own local board, at least from what I have noticed.

 
You should have reported those posts, even though just because you think something is a nonsense, doesn't automatically mean it will be deleted as I (and probably everyone that is active reported) had my share of bad reports even though they were blatant nonsesne shitposts.

I am not exclusively talking about Polish board, nor am I against anyone here. I'm just saying what happens sometimes, some weeks ago I noticed two guys, one from Indonesia and one from Nigeria, had tons of merits compared to their post count, got from local boards and they were posting absolutely nonsense on international boards. Probably it's my mistake that I didn't mark them because at some point I was like, I'll be a bad guy if I report them because they are from poor countries and probably it's their only way to escape.
Also, I had a case when one person replied me in his language and then, a minute later changed it into an English language (probably translated online).

You don't actually need to speak more than English It's pretty funny what you say because I plan to move in English-speaking country to improve my English pronunciation
Btw don't most of you also learn Spanish too?
Slightly off-topic: While one could say that American education system sucks, it's also true that average American earns way more than average European but at the same time spends way more on healthcare than European. I am still thinking whether it's better to live in America compared to west Europe, or not. In Europe you pay so much taxes, you can't really collect any wealth. The more you work, the more you earn, the more taxes you pay.